Lossless Scaling

Lossless Scaling

PAW.Predator Sep 28, 2023 @ 3:31am
1080p on 1440p monitor
Planning on buying new monitor and upgrade my GPU but couple of months later, i want to get 2K monitor but my current GPU won't allow me to hit even constant 40fps in 2k so 1080p is my best option until i upgrade the GPU.

will playing 1080p games using this app on 1440p monitor feel natural or will it look blurry and pixlated due to the ratio difference?
Originally posted by Freakshow:
Yeah, this app and using the dev's "LS1" from a chair to a monitor, like a 32" 1440p monitor, at a distance of at least 2-3 feet away, shouldn't give you any issues. All I needed to be away from my 32" 1080p TV (Samsung 32" 1920x1080 television @ 60hz ... can't remember the model, it's a few years old but has a great picture) was like 3 feet and I saw no pixels from that distance.

At 1440p, I believe it'll look crystal clear, you won't see any jaggies or anything (you may not see any from 1.5 feet away, I can't say) and all should be great.

It's funny, this app originally came out to let users enable FSR 1 on any game so long as you were in Windowed mode.

Then the dev developed LS1 (their own upscaling technique) that honestly outdid FSR 1. I preferred using LS1 > FSR 1 in Cyberpunk. FYI, LS1 = "Lossless Scaling 1", the name of the app. If people keep buying his app and he isn't burnt out already, I'd love to see him come out with an LS2 option. This guy has talent.

Plus you can use FSR3 in games, now, with your 2070S. FSR2 looks quite good in MOST games at 1440p upscaled from 1920x1080. I use FSR2 @ Quality in a lot in games with my 6700XT 12GB playing at 1440p all max settings. Sometimes I can even go down to the next step of Balanced and see no difference. Immortals of Aveum (sorry, I forget the spelling) does VERY well with FSR2.

And you have the option for DLSS, anyways, which from what I've seen tried to be portrayed over YT vids, always looks better than FSR 1 and 2.

But, yeah, this app lets you use several different types of scaling options and I don't think you'd see anything out of the ordinary on a monitor that's 2-3 feet away from you. Especially 1440p upscaled from 1080p. It's quite a handy tool that I always forget to use in games that don't have FSR and always enjoy when I do use it.

And once you get that 4070Ti, you'll have ALL the DLSS goodies (DLSS 2 and DLSS 3 frame generation with Nvidia Reflex) and you'll be loving that, I'm sure of it.
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ogioto Sep 28, 2023 @ 5:26am 
If you upscale to the closest resolution (which you do in your case), you probably ain't gonna feel a difference. I recommend using LS1 with 0 or 1 sharpness or LS1 Performance with 0 sharpness.
Freakshow Oct 7, 2023 @ 8:13am 
What size monitor are you getting?

That's the most important part of deciding. Honestly, 22" 1080p is the max size monitor for 1920x1080 if you sit at a desk and don't want to see every pixel. In my experience, I bought my first high refresh rate monitor like a decade ago, 24" 1920x1080 @ 144hz.

I HATED it. So ugly. I could see all the pixels, everything was ruined by that.

Now I have a 27" 2560x1440 144hz monitor and omg, night and day difference. It's beautiful. I don't see the pixels unless I have my nose right up on the screen, and even then, they're hard to see. Sitting less than an arm's length away, I see zero pixels.

So, if you were thinking "I want a big monitor, but my GPU can only do 1080p", it's going to depend on your eye sight.. and also how far you sit from it. Like... a 27" 1080p would look absolutely terrible on a gaming desk at that distance... a 32" 1080p monitor (like a TV) would look perfect sitting back about 6 feet or so.

It's all relative. But the size + resolution + distance from the monitor are absolutely important in deciding what to go with.
Last edited by Freakshow; Oct 7, 2023 @ 8:31am
PAW.Predator Oct 7, 2023 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by Freakshow:
What size monitor are you getting?

That's the most important part of deciding. Honestly, 22" 1080p is the max size monitor for 1920x1080 if you sit at a desk and don't want to see every pixel. In my experience, I bought my first high refresh rate monitor like a decade ago, 24" 1920x1080 @ 144hz.

I HATED it. So ugly. I could see all the pixels, everything was ruined by that.

Now I have a 27" 2560x1440 144hz monitor and omg, night and day difference. It's beautiful. I don't see the pixels unless I have my nose right up on the screen, and even then, they're hard to see. Sitting less than an arm's length away, I see zero pixels.

So, if you were thinking "I want a big monitor, but my GPU can only do 1080p", it's going to depend on your eye sight.. and also how far you sit from it. Like... a 27" 1080p would look absolutely terrible on a gaming desk at that distance... a 32" 1080p monitor (like a TV) would look perfect sitting back about 6 feet or so.

It's all relative. But the size + resolution + distance from the monitor are absolutely important in deciding what to go with.
I play on lazyboy because of some health condition (using "Roccat SOVA"), so i sit relatively far from the monitor, I've been doing this for years, but had to travel for work and it will be at least 2 years. so i'm keeping my setup at home as it is, and making new setup and the GPU i have aboard with me is 2070s with no monitor, so i wanted to pick a 32" 1440p monitor, then in a couple of months sell the GPU and go for 4070 ti.
Will this app scale games that run at 1080p so i can barely notice if there is something weird??
Last edited by PAW.Predator; Oct 7, 2023 @ 9:24am
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Freakshow Oct 7, 2023 @ 12:02pm 
Yeah, this app and using the dev's "LS1" from a chair to a monitor, like a 32" 1440p monitor, at a distance of at least 2-3 feet away, shouldn't give you any issues. All I needed to be away from my 32" 1080p TV (Samsung 32" 1920x1080 television @ 60hz ... can't remember the model, it's a few years old but has a great picture) was like 3 feet and I saw no pixels from that distance.

At 1440p, I believe it'll look crystal clear, you won't see any jaggies or anything (you may not see any from 1.5 feet away, I can't say) and all should be great.

It's funny, this app originally came out to let users enable FSR 1 on any game so long as you were in Windowed mode.

Then the dev developed LS1 (their own upscaling technique) that honestly outdid FSR 1. I preferred using LS1 > FSR 1 in Cyberpunk. FYI, LS1 = "Lossless Scaling 1", the name of the app. If people keep buying his app and he isn't burnt out already, I'd love to see him come out with an LS2 option. This guy has talent.

Plus you can use FSR3 in games, now, with your 2070S. FSR2 looks quite good in MOST games at 1440p upscaled from 1920x1080. I use FSR2 @ Quality in a lot in games with my 6700XT 12GB playing at 1440p all max settings. Sometimes I can even go down to the next step of Balanced and see no difference. Immortals of Aveum (sorry, I forget the spelling) does VERY well with FSR2.

And you have the option for DLSS, anyways, which from what I've seen tried to be portrayed over YT vids, always looks better than FSR 1 and 2.

But, yeah, this app lets you use several different types of scaling options and I don't think you'd see anything out of the ordinary on a monitor that's 2-3 feet away from you. Especially 1440p upscaled from 1080p. It's quite a handy tool that I always forget to use in games that don't have FSR and always enjoy when I do use it.

And once you get that 4070Ti, you'll have ALL the DLSS goodies (DLSS 2 and DLSS 3 frame generation with Nvidia Reflex) and you'll be loving that, I'm sure of it.
Freakshow Oct 7, 2023 @ 12:03pm 
But if this app is still $5, I think it's definitely worth going for it. Plus, on Steam, you have 2 hours/2 weeks, whichever comes first, to try something out and if you really don't like it, there's a no questions asked refund policy. So there's nothing to lose as far as that goes :-)
PAW.Predator Oct 7, 2023 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Freakshow:
Yeah, this app and using the dev's "LS1" from a chair to a monitor, like a 32" 1440p monitor, at a distance of at least 2-3 feet away, shouldn't give you any issues. All I needed to be away from my 32" 1080p TV (Samsung 32" 1920x1080 television @ 60hz ... can't remember the model, it's a few years old but has a great picture) was like 3 feet and I saw no pixels from that distance.

At 1440p, I believe it'll look crystal clear, you won't see any jaggies or anything (you may not see any from 1.5 feet away, I can't say) and all should be great.

It's funny, this app originally came out to let users enable FSR 1 on any game so long as you were in Windowed mode.

Then the dev developed LS1 (their own upscaling technique) that honestly outdid FSR 1. I preferred using LS1 > FSR 1 in Cyberpunk. FYI, LS1 = "Lossless Scaling 1", the name of the app. If people keep buying his app and he isn't burnt out already, I'd love to see him come out with an LS2 option. This guy has talent.

Plus you can use FSR3 in games, now, with your 2070S. FSR2 looks quite good in MOST games at 1440p upscaled from 1920x1080. I use FSR2 @ Quality in a lot in games with my 6700XT 12GB playing at 1440p all max settings. Sometimes I can even go down to the next step of Balanced and see no difference. Immortals of Aveum (sorry, I forget the spelling) does VERY well with FSR2.

And you have the option for DLSS, anyways, which from what I've seen tried to be portrayed over YT vids, always looks better than FSR 1 and 2.

But, yeah, this app lets you use several different types of scaling options and I don't think you'd see anything out of the ordinary on a monitor that's 2-3 feet away from you. Especially 1440p upscaled from 1080p. It's quite a handy tool that I always forget to use in games that don't have FSR and always enjoy when I do use it.

And once you get that 4070Ti, you'll have ALL the DLSS goodies (DLSS 2 and DLSS 3 frame generation with Nvidia Reflex) and you'll be loving that, I'm sure of it.
Thank you
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