Test Drive Unlimited 2

Test Drive Unlimited 2

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yklee118 2013 年 11 月 2 日 下午 12:41
TDU2 The Worse Car Simulator Game I Have Encountered
There are games out there that do itself justice like with the original Need For Speed series for example. Power sliding, drifiting, etc., all of the good stuff that we could do in real life in the safety and comfort of our own computers. Test Drive was decent, and now the Unlimited Series needs more than just help. It requires a major lession in physics.

Traction is important in the real world model of a car and the arcade like physics of some games I have encountered feel better than what TDU2 has to offer. Power sliding is virtually impossible in cars that would normally be possible in real world applications. Need For Speed got this down right with the latest batch of the series. I can't call the Current NFS series to be a simulator as there are quite a bit of arcade like qualities in the game, but I have to say it much more fun if not with the boring plot to drive the cars and crash into things than with TDU2. I haven't heard of the idea of crashing into a car as a mere crunch on a soda bottle while bouncing away from the object being run into. The physics modeling is utter crap full stop.

Cars don't steer like their suppose to thus rendering this game a complete waste of money. Since Atari and Eden Games don't offer any form of support, I can say that this game isn't worth my time. I bought the game for the fact that I have several friends who say it is good and we can race each other. So if they are listening and reading this post (doubt it), Thanks for Nothing. NFS has a better grasp at physics modeling where when one pulls the handbrake while in a turn, expect to either be whipped around or upsidedown.

Steering is utter crap, the races are decent but when you can steer at speed with or without a good gaming controller, it still renders the game "Crap". (I will not use any profanity - the game isn't worth the swear words).

Aside from the slew of cars though, the game is worse than crap.

Oh Well, I think it is time to dust off some of the games I have in storage that play better than TDU2. I still have a copy of NFS-Porsche Unleashed. Even that game has better physics modeling than with TDU2. What does that say about the Test Drive Unlimited Series. Not much I am afraid.

For those who end up reading this would say that I am biased. Well forgive me if I am talking down about this game. I have purchased a considerable amount of racing and vehicle simulator games so I have some knowledge of what the physics are in a typical difference between virtual and real world. For starters, I have done some real world racing thus I understand what is over/under steer. Almost every car in TDU2 under steers to rather extreme degrees. Usually a tap/pull on the hand brake should aid in the steering (with the Hardcore Setting), but TDU2 for some reason behaves like the car has the traction control set to full when in a typical game setting like the old TDK World Racing, the car would either steer in the direction you are heading with or without the hand brake, or the driver would accidentally be put in a 180-degree reversal.

Mind everyone here in NFS-Most Wanted 2012 version, the steering is quite slow which can be frustrating to many, but all one has to do is either tap on the brake lightly or pull the hand brake to get the car to turn in the direction desired. I have played almost every NFS game launched so I have witness the improvements in the physics modeling. TDU2 has the worst physics configuration I have ever experience.

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Ellie 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 6:38 
Oops, somebody "quoted the whole thread? ^.
no, yklee a bit of a wannabe.
lol i have NEVER praised nfs. Only game I like from that area is Shift 1 n 2.
I have tried nfs, they all have consolitis, i got nfs the run and could not get it to 'Run' on any controller, not wheel not x360, I therefore will especially avoid their latest nfs-rivals.
最後修改者:Ellie; 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 6:47
[415]BlazeMcNight 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 6:50 
I don't think it's a great game. It's fun, has it's perks and suits me just fine.

It is not, however, a simulator. Also, yklee118, that's great about your driving experience but if you want people to take you seriously you don't need to boast about having dual country driver licenses and working on tracks. That alone makes me think you're full of cheese and I don't know you at all.

Anyway, TDU1 was a lot better in my opinion than TDU2. Either way, the game takes a lot of getting used but once you figure it out and have some friends to play with it's a lot of fun. But you can't honestly compare to NFS. That's like comparing Flight Simulator X to Pilot Wings 64.

Yklee118 simply voiced his criticism (however absured some of the things may be) and if you can't respond without getting your panties in a bunch then you might need to take a break from the computer and go outside.
最後修改者:[415]BlazeMcNight; 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 6:55
vZeroG 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 6:54 
Play the first one - a much better game than this one all around (aside from not having as much eye candy). The driving was very nice in TDU1.
Spectrum Legacy 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 7:26 
You can be pretty much on any forum, whether you like the game or not. I'm second person here who posted and do not own TDU2. I quite liked the first TDU game (what do you think about it, compared to sequel?), so I kept checking forums/store on this one once in a while.

I've read every single word of each post here and it was a good reading, thanks for info.

I get impression that its nice scenery driving game with social aspect, with arcade-y feel/physics and controls, but its manageable to get used to, like in any other game. I prefer myself games which lean towards more realistic feel, though I had a blast with arcades like Burnout Paradise. What puts me off TDU2's purchase is actually a parasite which has no place in gaming industry on brink of 2014, called Securom.

From NFS games that were mentioned, only decent I remember were Porsche and Underground (especially the 2nd one). After those, I only try demos of newer NFS titles, its dissapointment each time. GT Legends is my favourite one from the more realistic spectrum, despite it starts to show its age and there are its rightful successors already on the market.

EDIT: Apparently my question about TDU1 got answered already while I was writing it and drinking tea :) Thanks!
最後修改者:Spectrum Legacy; 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 7:43
Ellie 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 7:35 
Good post, spectrum, well put and not insult anyone.
I played tdu1 last week in fact, singleplayer of course; I love the greater variety of cars, I like the way race challenges are placed, but you can't walk in dealers, can't walk in house, or indeed anywhere. tdu1 was great of its time, i played it 100 times, fav race, Lucky Day. but I prefer tdu2 do solarcrown, and schools, find wrecks, get haircut, all that stuff.. thats just me? y, i think many more hate solarcrown and schools.
最後修改者:Ellie; 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 7:36
flathed 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 7:36 
Thanks for your review; I was considering buying this but after reading, my perspective has changed. I'll stick with Assetto Corsa :)
最後修改者:flathed; 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 7:36
EgoMaster 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 8:54 
引用自 Ellie
option 3 of tdu2 haters ^ they are trolls, else why would they be here plagueing tdu2 threads if they dont like the game?
yes it is beyond redemption, but for me it still beats any other driving game of its kind, oh, there is no other of its kind, hurray tdu2 they broke the mould. egomaster, shouldn't you be at forum of a game you do like?
First, let's get our notions straight. I'm not a hater. I don't care enough to love or hate any game, let alone TDU 2. What I am, is "a dissatisfied customer". TDU 2 is a game. A product. A product which I paid for. Games are not any different from my cell phone. They have a function. They exist to entertain me. If they can't perform, I'll be dissatisfied. The only difference is, I can sell my sell phone and buy a new one if I don't like it. I'm stuck with TDU 2 forever.

Second, I'm not trolling. I'm expressing my honest opinion, which is my fundamental right. Ever heard about freedom of speech? I'm entitled to have negative opinions about a product and, I know this will come as a shock to you, but I have a right to say that. This doesn't make me troll.

Third, why shouldn't I write to the forums of a game I don't like? This board is not the liberated zone of fanboys. It's for people to exchange their opinions and since the game is on sale right now, many people are asking about it. If you can't stand people who don't like the game, that's your problem.

引用自 Ellie
well it aint garbage to ppl who know how to play, ender try learning.
Aaaaand there we go again. "U don like ma game cuz u suck @ it." Thanks for confirming my previous post.
最後修改者:EgoMaster; 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 9:07
Ellie 2013 年 12 月 3 日 上午 9:39 
lol, kept you talking though :)
Special Oops 2013 年 12 月 3 日 下午 12:59 
Yklee188 - i agree with most of your original post. Yes the physics modelling leaves a lot to be desired - must be disappointing to the devs too if they had planned / hoped for much more - and i agree that most other racing games including some older ones have managed this better.

That said, for me it isn't game-breaking. The steering I don't find too bad after playing around with my wheel settings. Admittedly it's not very realistic - like you i've played a fairly wide variety of games from simulation to pure arcade as well as having driven a range of real-world cars - but it's not much worse than some of the NFS games imho. As a barrier to enjoying the game i've not found it insurmountable.

I can see where you are coming from though, and i in no way dispute your right to be dis-satisfied with the game, everyone's expectations and perceptions are different - but i wanted to offer an alternative view because for me the game has been worth the (sale) price.

I'd agree with Spectrum's impressions of the game as that is how I've found it to be, more or less - but it is truly a shame it has taken some steps backwards since it *could* have been a great game :(
Special Oops 2013 年 12 月 3 日 下午 1:01 
And to save me retyping what i posted in another thread...

"Flawed but can be fun" sums it up for me. Depends on your expectations, but i picked this up on sale for £5 and have sunk about 40hrs into it.

Positives - decent graphics, (arcade) driving mechanics not too bad with G25 after fiddling with settings and does support H-shifter, large-ish map to cruise around. Some nice cars. Quirky social aspect with avatars and garages / clubs - haven't really explored this much. Quite a lot of mileage in single player challenges, getting licenses, collecting cars etc etc.

Negatives - physics no-where near realistic but it's no Big-Rig Racing :P Initial trouble creating account and updating the game meant i couldn't get into multiplayer. This was fixed with some patience and deleting/re-downloading the bad update after google came to the rescue. Multiplayer challenges / time-trials spoiled by cheating/hacking - much of it documented on youtube. Lack of future updates / support due to studio closure blah blah.

Summary - Worth buying only (imho) if you can pick it up cheap... especially if you've already got the likes of NFS games, DiRT, RBR, Gran Tourismo / Forza, Race07, iRacing / rFactor / RRE etc (delete as appropriate) for the racing. Free-roaming / cruising / messing around is the main box this ticks for me that those above don't, and if you can get some friends on there then all the better. So while waiting for The Crew (and pCars) it's not a bad option to have for less than the price of a gallon of non-pixelated fuel :P

Rating - a surprisingly fun 4/10.
yklee118 2013 年 12 月 3 日 下午 2:23 
Let us choose to agree to disagree. I was talking about the physics modeling where when a person crashes, performs an actual power slide, and other explosive arguments, TDU2 doesn't deliver what any driving game usually delivers. the latest batch of NFS games plus the older Porsche Unlimited delivered despite being what it is. I know how to drive in real life and I can say that the modeling used in the old Porsche unleashed is quite close while the latest batches of the NFS games deviate a little, but not by much. Since when does rear ending a car equates to pinball bouncing action. It should be crunch rather than bounce.

This is just my two cents.
PickLock 2013 年 12 月 3 日 下午 4:15 
yeah, its a little wierd and doesn't play like many other racing games out there, but screw it, i'm having fun :D:
KW17 2013 年 12 月 3 日 下午 4:25 
引用自 GnmP Zero-G
Play the first one - a much better game than this one all around (aside from not having as much eye candy). The driving was very nice in TDU1.

I don't think you can get the first one... unless you mean the first TDU...
Sephrax 2013 年 12 月 3 日 下午 9:04 
引用自 EgoMaster
- This is not a simulator. If you want realistic physics, go play [insert a list of respectable simulations here].
Yet the problem with TDU2 is not "realistic" physics. It's no physics at all.

What's the problem? Are you saying iRacing is too difficult?
ralph6145 2013 年 12 月 3 日 下午 10:23 
I give this game my full seal of approval. I use an Xbox 360 Controller, which works great. I got it on the sale last night, and I am so happy with it. This is a great, great, great driving game. I also got NFS hot pursuit a couple weeks ago, but trust me, TD2 is better. NFS hot pursuit most of the stearing feels like it's done for you. NFS Hot Pursuit is a very good game, don't get me wrong, but in this game you actually need to drive the vehicle. This game has everything, great music even, leveling, a huge world, lots of quests, and awsome cars to drive. The game makes me want to buy a wheel, because although one is not needed, I can tell it would be even better with one. Can anyone recommend a good wheel with FF that's not over the top in price?

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