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Request: Avoid further Unity updates unless absolutely necessary
It appears, the latest versions of Unity are no longer compatible with Windows versions older than 10. Lately I became unable to play two games on my main PC (running 8.1), and I am worried, it will only get worse. I would assume, there is at least a handful of Win7 users around here too.
If you do not really need any of the features of a new version for the game, or some new device or system absolutely requires an up-to-date version, I would be glad if you could delay any Unity updates for as long as reasonably possible.

Thanks. :-)
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fbane May 15 @ 6:00am 
Developers aren't going to stop updating their games because people don't want to or can't update their systems.
morpheus May 15 @ 7:57am 
considering patches will stop for win 10 this year, im not quite sure why anyone would still use 8.1
Jerry May 15 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by fbane:
Developers aren't going to stop updating their games because people don't want to or can't update their systems.

And I don't expect that either. What I am requesting is, that a new Unity version is only implemented, when it really is needed for features or compatibility on new systems, not merely "because it is there and we can", so to say.
For now, remaining on the currently implemented version does not harm anybody. Updating to the new one does.


P.S.: From what I read, the problem appears to extend to pre-11 MacOS versions too, which are equally locked out from the new Unity. Can't tell, if anything else is affected.

I do not complain, that many new games won't run on my machine; that's a thing to expect when remaining on older technology. What itches me, is when something that used to run stops running because of a forced update. Maybe that is relatable at least in some way, even if not related to computers.
Last edited by Jerry; May 15 @ 11:56am
You can use OpenGL, DirectX 11 or 12 and Vulkan startup options. I was forced to switch to Vulkan on Linux. Maybe it will continue to work for you using some old version of OpenGL or DircetX11 or Vulkan.
M F May 16 @ 8:29pm 
Originally posted by Jerry:
I do not complain, that many new games won't run on my machine; that's a thing to expect when remaining on older technology. What itches me, is when something that used to run stops running because of a forced update. Maybe that is relatable at least in some way, even if not related to computers.
The software that used to run still does, it's the update that doesn't run. You want updates but without doing updates yourself. You know it's a bullet you'll have to bite so what are you waiting for?

If you really have to hold onto your hardware, consider a different OS. For kicks, this year I ran Idle Wizard on a Windows Vista era laptop (two 2.1 GHz cores) running Linux (I did a full r0 run to see how well it really ran) and it had just enough memory to do it (3GB ram).
CyFiver May 17 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by M F:
era

Guy talks like he's a young Swift kid. lol Era.. who refers to any OS by "Era" :_RIP_:
JVSkellington May 17 @ 12:04pm 
Originally posted by CyFiver:
Originally posted by M F:
era

Guy talks like he's a young Swift kid. lol Era.. who refers to any OS by "Era" :_RIP_:


How the hell did a 12 year old manage to get a 17 year old Steam account?
That's the only explanation for your vocabulary being so limited to the point of your first reference to the word "era" being Taylor Swift.
M F May 17 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by CyFiver:
Guy talks like he's a young Swift kid. lol Era.. who refers to any OS by "Era" :_RIP_:
I've been a computer enthusiast since the TI 99/4a. You and everyone else knows when that came out, right? I could have said it was a Intel core 2 duo laptop, you and everyone knows exactly about when that was, right? Even saying the year doesn't really make it clear how much older it is then what Jerry is running, to third parties. I said Vista era laptop for a very specific reason, it's two major Microsoft OS versions before Windows 8 and it ran Idle Wizard just fine with Linux for an OS.

Did you have something useful to contribute to this thread or do you just like to troll?
CyFiver May 19 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by JVSkellington:
Originally posted by CyFiver:

Guy talks like he's a young Swift kid. lol Era.. who refers to any OS by "Era" :_RIP_:


How the hell did a 12 year old manage to get a 17 year old Steam account?
That's the only explanation for your vocabulary being so limited to the point of your first reference to the word "era" being Taylor Swift.

Yes, twelve year old would be the one using the term "Era" to describe something that has nothing to do with the word nor it's use ever historically in this field. Talk to me more like it'll make a difference.. ROFL. era.. :cta_emo9:
sandokanski May 20 @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by CyFiver:
Originally posted by JVSkellington:


How the hell did a 12 year old manage to get a 17 year old Steam account?
That's the only explanation for your vocabulary being so limited to the point of your first reference to the word "era" being Taylor Swift.

Yes, twelve year old would be the one using the term "Era" to describe something that has nothing to do with the word nor it's use ever historically in this field. Talk to me more like it'll make a difference.. ROFL. era.. :cta_emo9:

Originally posted by Raymond Chen:
Was there a problem with Windows 95-era programs relying on undocumented information disclosure stuff?

Oh look. Microsoft is hiring 12-years old developers who write blogs on their site, saying 12-years old things like "Windows 95-era".

Ref URL: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20171107-00/?p=97356
sandokanski May 20 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by CyFiver:
Originally posted by M F:
era

Guy talks like he's a young Swift kid. lol Era.. who refers to any OS by "Era" :_RIP_:
J.P. Gownder, VP, Principal Analyst

https://www.forrester.com/blogs/09-09-11-lessons_from_the_windows_vista_era/
M F May 20 @ 8:30pm 
As someone who remembers Vista (obviously), I thought that was an interesting article and still relevant to Windows today. They're still forcing hardware upgrades people don't want to do. They're still adding new mandatory features that irritate people. They're still having trouble making the Windows experience, a good experience.
Originally posted by M F:
They're still forcing hardware upgrades people don't want to do.
:signix:
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