Achievements, secret

[Tjilleren]

I've access to a page that tells what needs done for the secret achievements, but not how to do it. Also i'm not sure how to take a pet to lvl 2000, or if i simply need a lot more than my current e1338 mysteries in order to earn the last mana source achievements. Can someone help me plz?

[sandokanski]

I'm going to try pet level 2000 with Tempest Oni, but I need to finish my current goals. I have the level 1500 achievement and I got it with Oni long time ago.

I need only the last achievement for Nexi, Dimensional Rifts and Circles of Power. Again, I did that some time ago, way before e1300, so maybe now I can do it for the rest. I just used Prodigy to lower the sources cost, I used the profit Mana Source modifier on each source and I let the Greater Chimaera just max it. Maybe also more levels on the Profit modifier will help, but that comes with time. Mine is currently 18.

I don't think there is a guide how exactly to do the secret achievements, but most of them are straightforward enough. And if some of them is a problem, just ask specific question about it. I did almost all of them, except the last one very long time ago. I was getting probably e600-e700 mysteries max at that time. So they are not something insanely hard to achieve.

Edit: also now, when I have access to Ascension forms, I guess Demiurge Temporalist will be a better choice for mana sources achievements, Probably Temporalist is a better choice even before that, but I never managed to make that class work for me, so I avoided it for no reason.

[Tjilleren]

Thanks a lot for you answer, imna use your advice. I reckon you'll tell that the triumph achievements: e50 1 exile apprentice, e80 1 exile are very easy also hehe :) I wanted to ask about the prerequisites/strategy for them.
Do i tag you somehow to address you further here? Don't know if you'll see my answer+inquiry. Also, plz explain what the Profit modifier at 18 is.

[Firefrye]

For the "Max Source" achievements, once you reach source memetics at e850 mysteries, the "gild" memetic can be used to make one source significantly cheaper. This can be reset on exile for free, so I got all those achievements on Demi Tempo by doing a couple quick exiles where I put the Gild upgrade on each individual source one after another, and then used the Greater Chimera pet to max them out. It didn't take long at all.

As for the secret ones, I did all the ones that give a reward in my first few realms. None were particularly difficult once I checked the wiki to see what their actual requirements were. You are WAY further in the game than I was when I did them all so you should be fine. (even if you meant that you're at e1338 MANA that would still be fine, but over e1300 *mysteries* is actual endgame)

[Tjilleren]

Thanks a lot for your feedback. Im aware of the memetic discount, maybe i should've mentioned this, but so far i only used archon+asc. and have pet buy sources. And i can't obtain the enchanted tree ach. and further. Even at e1338 mysteries, correct. I'm in endgame, and in max. 5 days i'll land on legacy 122. My greatest concern right now is whether i should spend my 2.4 mio. yellow dust and 212k keys next or wait until legacy 128/9. That's why im interested in achievements now, have 1155 atm. -I still don't get ½ of the game mechanics or math.
You point to demi tempo which i will try out. I think i've shunned temporalist but i'll see if i can make him work. Thanks.

[sandokanski]

Originally posted by Tjilleren:

Thanks a lot for you answer, imna use your advice. I reckon you'll tell that the triumph achievements: e50 1 exile apprentice, e80 1 exile are very easy also hehe :) I wanted to ask about the prerequisites/strategy for them.
Do i tag you somehow to address you further here? Don't know if you'll see my answer+inquiry. Also, plz explain what the Profit modifier at 18 is.

I presumed you'll know what I'm talking about. The only Meme Source modifier that has profit on it, i.e. It says "Profit: 1.0", the rest have "Profit: 0.0". You usually put it on the source your class gets its profit. I guess, I just don't know how to call it, so that created confusion.
And if you are still confused, the only one you don't level by sinking Memetic Ingots to level it up. It levels up automatically when you buy more and more meme ingots.

You can post here, e80 was not hard. I just used Necro. e50 I'm going to try next, along with Young Generation. These are 2 of my last 3 Triumphs I still have to do. I guess I'll try using max Obscure Talents + Geode. Apprentice will need as much help as possible.

Also i do have 10 delusions in feigned Nobility and 10 in False memories. For e50 I guess I'll keep that and I'll put a little bit more in Illusionary Premonition and perhaps few in Unrealistic Expectations. And just one in Elusive Power.

Green Spectrum Delirium may also be useful, but I guess not so much, as you don't have many catalysts at start of the Realm. Maybe just 1 Delusion there as well.

The rest I'll use for things that will boost my late game, like Echo Chambers and Stellar Feedback, as I also want to do another achievement this run.

[Tjilleren]

Oh yes ofc, and i do know about it, someone else here calls it gild memetic. It's just not enough by itself, using archon pet to buy sources. But through the advice here it seems possible now. Thanks. (you've come quite far it seems :)
You say you used necro for the e50, however the challenge says only to use apprentice.

[sandokanski]

Originally posted by Tjilleren:

Oh yes ofc, and i do know about it, someone else here calls it gild memetic. It's just not enough by itself, using archon pet to buy sources. But through the advice here it seems possible now. Thanks. (you've come quite far it seems :)

Not as far as I want. Only 1.14e7 memories and 35 Delusions. And I have 3 more triumphs to do, couple of them next Realm, I hope.
And I'm really unsure how powerful I have to get to be able to do "Unworthy". I want at least few more delusions and enhanced version of JMS before I try it.

[sandokanski]

Originally posted by Tjilleren:

You say you used necro for the e50, however the challenge says only to use apprentice.

Oh, I messed up. The e50 Is the Apprentice one, and I need to do it. For e80 you can use any class as long as it's a single Exile."Path of no Exile" it is called and i got it with Necro. Nothing extraordinary, just wait and burst, then wait again if not enough.

Edit: I fixed my post, so it does not bring confusion for anyone who reads it after us.

[Tjilleren]

You're thorough, thx a lot! :)

[sandokanski]

I did the e50 one. Easy. Here is a link how my memories and Delusions were used.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/992070/discussions/0/3190244133084319012/?ctp=8#c603024176009183634

[Tjilleren]

Thanks

[Tjilleren]

I just made my pet lvl way above 2000. I used Oni Tempest as suggested. I don't know if anyone already mentioned this, but it turned out that the pet able to sky rocket was the Interrogator. Important detail.

[sandokanski]

Originally posted by Tjilleren:

I just made my pet lvl way above 2000. I used Oni Tempest as suggested. I don't know if anyone already mentioned this, but it turned out that the pet able to sky rocket was the Interrogator. Important detail.

Well, it is already fastest leveling pet with 6 active spells. And Tempest can have 7.

[Tjilleren]

Yes well, as a seventh spell i chose the one which amplifies evocation. A red one, don't remember now. Charging spell, beneficial for the other spells. But i also realized that i had to remove an otherwise pet leveling spell: conjure primal elemental, and replace it with one that boosted character ability power, which in turn (again) boosted evocation. Then finding Interrogator and that was it.
Also, of course, i started out with greater chimera buying mana sources. Then changing to, firstly pixie (+others) which wouldn't have made it to 1800.

[sandokanski]

So it worked pretty much as I imagined it will. good to know. Maybe I'll try that my next exile. I already did my 2 Triumphs for this Realm. ONLY ! left! Yey!

Although, delusions will not help me with it. You cannot use them, or you fail (That's the rule of "Unworthy"). But enhanced spells will help, so I still will do some Quasi-realms next.