Hard Time with I Am Void and Shadow Cataclysm

[pabraica]

i'm at e800, trying to finally get those two but it seems that's immposible. Is there something i'm missing?
For Void i'm going with Heretic+Voidterror, the whole void items, syphon/prison/V Elemental/Chaotinc fervor/Voidforged/Voidbolt, plus 140 chaos and 130 antimatealia
For shadow, the shadow items, Desolator+ Mechanos, shadow potion, Condensing/Hound/Day into night/Dancing Flame/Burn all that burns

[Delreich]

For reference, "! Am Void" is collect 1e100 void mana and "Shadow Cataclysm" is collect 1e30 liquid shadow.

There's no upgrade tied to either of these, so all you're missing out on is the numbers (unlocked / points). I wouldn't worry about them, you'll get these easily at higher myst.

There's little to do differently for shadows. Maybe try with Chimmie instead of Mechie, to see if the Mastery points outweigh the inca bonus (if Day->Night isn't significant). Oh, and never Burn while gathering, only do that once you're done; Shadow Elixir gets stronger the more shadows you've got on hand.

For void mana, Heretic or Oni would probably be the most likely candidates.

[phenir]

Void is easier with more enchants, of course. Even with base enchant max level, I think you can get over 100 void pretty easily. Atm, I can get 100 void without amalgam, just initial burst (with archivist lol) at the start of exile gets me over 100. At 960 mystery; 34 enchant, 29 vme memetic, also have obscure talents. No god help though because triumph. I just tried again briefly with archivist and hit 111. My void spellset is void prison, void lure, void radiance, voidbolt, summon winged night, spell focus. Main ones are lure, prison, and bolt if you are using Amalgam, which you should be since it is the best source of void mana for heretic.
If you're really struggling with it, try build up with an evocation set and archivist to spam smite for a day or two or three then go for void mana with Amalgam. Amalgam's ability scales fast with hallowed clicks performed, you should get 2 or 3 exponents per day after the initial jump.

[Tjilleren]

Hey there, i was just reading on this thread while struggling to solve the shadow cataclysm.
But i also just succeeded and wanted to share how. Okay, so i actually fought my way to e1322 mysteries, so that makes it a bit easier. But what made the difference was noticing how the Shadow Elixir going on by the Desolator, that the shadow power is related to character power. And so besides from shadow equipment i applied character ability stuff too, like Beholding Eye, Self Reflection, Casque of Learning, Nomadic Wrists and The Great Journey. The character ability spell too ofc.
I'd already moved into gaining sp shadow but the 1.00 no was achieved instantly now.
I used the advice here about choosing Chimera but the only* advantage i see here is how it buys coals (resources) for improved shadow.
*it's a good idea, but perhaps after buying all there's a better pet to choose...

[sandokanski]

I believe I didn't worry about those at all. I got them naturally or close to naturally by playing some Quasi-Realms. I believe Lord of Darkness got me the shadows with huge margin above the requirement. I don't remember which was the one with stupid amounts of void mana.