Expedition keys, really expensive or am i missing anything?

[Enkil]

How am i supposed to amass the (huge?) number of keys needed to get the trophies up to legendary? Even running trials specifically for the keys and putting some dust into extra keys it takes me a good while to get a 100 keys, and the trophies i get for one run is really underwhelming.

Is there a trick to this or is this really a 1-year or so commitment to grinding keys?

[Idazu]

I had the same THOUGHT at first, butt Keep the grind up.!! IT will NOT Take a year which depends on your playstyle (class+itemcombo etc.) and FocuS regarding these Key-stones and Realm ++ [Get VIP up (everlasting overall Bonus) ]

*Rant* (please take it not personal)
easy answer is TIME F...ing TIME(, wait wut you only put " some DUST " into something which is when LEGENDARY is a dAMn g0dLikE advvantage. [Again TIME "idle" Wizard]
GL HF

[Jey]

You'll gain more and more dust as time goes. You'll be able to pay for keys easily as time goes.

[MrBall]

Yeah i got the trophies to legendary about a month ago so you can do the math on how long it takes when you are already late game. Its certainly not a year. Also don't feel bad while they are Nice (extra god XP extra dust and better Void push) other than the void push which was fairly large the others don't really effect profit at least not for archon. They are a nice bonus but nothing that'll hold you back from reaching e700+ without them.

[Enkil]

Ok, i thanks and good to know. I guess i was just used to progressing quickly and when they started popping up in guides around e400 i thought i must be doing something wrong to be so far away from them.

[Trick Question]

I have a problem with keys too.

I always get two to three times as many of the second key as I do of the first key, without fail. It's been this way since the beginning and I've pulled in hundreds of keys. My Insidious Lure and Abnormal Voidmass are way ahead of the other two (and I use Fin-Wing the most, sadly).

[MrBall]

Thats unfortunate my lure and voidmass were only a few runs behind the other maybe 3-400 keys off

[Trick Question]

Weird.

It's always like this, too. My last four rolls were 2:14 2:12 1:14 2:8. I know that's not a decent sample, but I can't see back further than that at the moment, so all I can say is this is typical. It's literally like three to one and I get stretches of 2's but never stretches of 1's, so it's hard to believe at this point that it falls within the bounds of good pseudorandom fairness. I even tried not running the second area for a while so that maybe the 1's would have a chance to catch up, but eventually I had so many I couldn't justify waiting longer.

I suppose time of day or something that might separate us by time zones or activity could play a role, but I play actively throughout the day so I'd see some variation in that case. Maybe I broke the PNG.

[0xb7767000]

You guys have actual RNG when it comes to key drops? I always get the one type I have less of at the moment. When I go into a key zone, only this type of key drops afterwards to balance the stockpile of keys from both zones. during this time not a single key of the type currently "in the lead" will drop for weeks until the stockpile is equal again.

[MrBall]

That would make sense cause i feel like my keys are almost always balanced (i never took close watch of keys as they dropped) now there is RNG on the trophy drops which would explain why i was a few runs behind on one area

[Trick Question]

Keys you get from drops DO try to equalize your keys by giving you only the minimum one, but most of my keys come from purchasing them in experiments.

Also, I don't know if the keys from drops are looking at the minimum key counts you have currently, or the minimum total key counts. I'd have to check and see.