How to Profit Mystery Income as Exorcist?

[Demimind]

I just unlocked exorcist and have a little over 220 attribute points and e68 mysteries banked, but cannot seem to go past e62 in the income. I've got interrogator set up and mostly exorcist exclusive spells setup apart from spell focus for more shard income. character level is in the early 90s and not much mana above e141. Even with hallowed clicks, I cannot seem to make a bigger profit than I did when I was voidmancer, back when I could net up to 3 e's in mysteries within a day's time or less.

How do I play as exorcist and actually gain more mysteries than I actually have?

[Jey]

You can't.
Before unlocking Geode, exorcist kinda sucks.

[Demimind]

Ok, how about chronomancer? does he profit on his own early in unlock? e68 mysteries I hear it takes.

[Demimind]

Originally posted by Demimind:

Ok, how about chronomancer? does he profit on his own early in unlock? e68 mysteries I hear it takes.

Scratch that. Even though the wormhole/singularity beam combo is hilarious to watch, I can't get much beyond e63. Looks like I'm stuck as a voidmancer until perhaps, uhhh, paragon 8 maybe?

EDIT: Just tried synthetic entity, now it's about to hit e67.

[Arkhne]

iirc, that is about the point where you can start getting enough levels to unlock the final abilities of earlier classes (better summons for Druid, Arcane Infusion for Arcanist, etc). And where long runs play a larger part.

For Arcane Infusion Arcanist, you will want to spend about a day with Arcanaworg, Arcane Infusion, Spellstaff, and full summon set, building up casts of Arcane Infusion (there is another way to build it up, but that's more for min/max approach).

For the Chronomancer, who is actually decent, he utilizes long buildup phases shortened by his time distortion and skipping abilities. Once you can hit a high enough level with Pixie+Synthetic Entity, you can start stacking Time Helix, which is a pain to do at that point, but very powerful. Geode (pet) makes this easier, but I don't think you have them yet.

Most of the more complex classes (like Chronomancer) should have guides on the wiki. Although I think the only Chronomancer guide was written by Demi way back before Steam release.

[dark_anima]

If u try Exorcist u will need a good Amount of Autoclickprofit and Click Profit paired with Dominance....stack his hero Power(access hallowed clicks) and use anima Construct for Burst...maybe its a Guide on Wiki...but Exorcist are a rly easy Class compared to others

maybe Voidmancer + Arcanaworg are ur best bet on ur mysts

[TRONER]

i just check guides on how to reach e200. chrono was what i used most, but idk if it was at around e67 that i started. maybe e80. i didnt use exorcist until e150

[Arkhne]

Just re-reading the OP to try and figure out what I was doing at that stage on my new save, and that would be almost precisely the time that I started reaching JMS on Arcanist. I used Arcanist and Voidmancer at that stage. Both were quite effective for me, but then, I know both classes quite well.

Arcanist requires stacking JMS, which is a long term (multi-exile) process to really shine. Where Spellhound is less than useless to the Arcanist, Arcanaworg is actually pretty good. Once you can reach Arcanapools, Devourer looses utility on the Arcanist, as does Interrogator. Arcanaworg and Anima Construct are basically the best options at that point. In fact, due to Arcanists massive shard production and dumping, they can play quite similarly to the Demonologist "Hell Chimera" strategy. Arcanist can level Spellhound high enough to unlock Arcanaworg virtually instantly, meaning a voidmana buildup with Voidterror before switching is very good.

Voidmancer is basically just a case of stacking long enough (Summon Winged Night, Manabeast, Ritual of Power, Void Syphon, and Spellfocus), and bursting with Voidterror (If you can reach Reality Warping, Archivist is also an option). More autoclicks and entities = more profits.

[Whitey]

I used Chronomancer around that time all the way to e160 mysteries. A lot of mysteries gained through Chono if you use him right.

[Demimind]

Originally posted by Whitey:

I used Chronomancer around that time all the way to e160 mysteries. A lot of mysteries gained through Chono if you use him right.

And what 4 supplementary spells do you recommend from e74 until further notice? So far, I get using singularity beam and wormhole for skipping time but nothing else apart from synthetic entity seems to mesh too well.

I don't generally make enough XP yet to reach Stabilize the Flow and I can't tell if Revert is working with all the rapid time skips. Temporal Distortion doesn't seem effective since it's only temporary though the description omits that. Summoning seems to be canceled out by time skip and I can't see the autoclick stat go much higher unless I use Pixie.

[John Baller]

For Chronomancer you want to use Synthetic Entity and Pixie pet while time skipping with Singularity Beam, Wormhole, Ritual of Power, Conjure Manabeast, and Spell Focus to get autoclicks, void entities, and spells cast, which all count towards your level, like Warchild said. Character level is based on:

(number of mana sources)^0.855 x log10(total mana in current exile) x log10(autoclicks in current exile) x ln(void entities collected in current exile) x ln(spells cast in current exile)

You want to try to max out each of these things to get your level high enough to unlock whatever is doable out of Stabilize the Flow, Superposition, and Time Helix. Once you get Geode you can use him to stack Time Helix. You also want to stack Superposition a bit once you get it since it's an accumulated spell.

I think the best pet for Chronomancer burst is Voidterror, but it might be Anima Construct or Archivist at your mysteries.

I think the best way to burst was to use Singularity Beam, Temporal Distortion, Conjure Manabeast, and Spell Focus to level and build up void mana with Voidterror. Then you can either burst with Voidterror or whichever pet, but don't use Wormhole at all after getting void mana, or the void mana will disappear. Burst Spells are Singularity Beam, Gem Resonance, Ritual of Power, Converge Timelines, Temporal Distortion, and Stabilize the Flow. Autocast first 4 spells, then max time distortion and cast Stabilize the Flow. Once Stabilize the Flow is cast you can swap Temporal Distortion for Superposition once you are high enough level to use it. This is easiest to practice with Interrogator or Archivist since Stabilize the Flow will stay active for a long time.

You could also use Void Lure and Void Radiance for void mana, if you can't pet swap from Voidterror fast enough.

You can also quickly max sources with Homunculus or Simulacrum before and in between bursts if you need more character levels or want to burst more than once per exile.

Also, you said you have ~220 attributes. If you put 175 into mastery that will get you a bunch more character exp and maybe enough levels to unlock more spells, which would probably be the best for profit at your level since each spell gives a big bonus.

[Demimind]

Originally posted by Clownbaby:

For Chronomancer you want to use Synthetic Entity and Pixie pet while time skipping with Singularity Beam, Wormhole, Ritual of Power, Conjure Manabeast, and Spell Focus to get autoclicks, void entities, and spells cast, which all count towards your level, like Warchild said. Character level is based on:

(number of mana sources)^0.855 x log10(total mana in current exile) x log10(autoclicks in current exile) x ln(void entities collected in current exile) x ln(spells cast in current exile)

You want to try to max out each of these things to get your level high enough to unlock whatever is doable out of Stabilize the Flow, Superposition, and Time Helix. Once you get Geode you can use him to stack Time Helix. You also want to stack Superposition a bit once you get it since it's an accumulated spell.

I think the best pet for Chronomancer burst is Voidterror, but it might be Anima Construct or Archivist at your mysteries.

I think the best way to burst was to use Singularity Beam, Temporal Distortion, Conjure Manabeast, and Spell Focus to level and build up void mana with Voidterror. Then you can either burst with Voidterror or whichever pet, but don't use Wormhole at all after getting void mana, or the void mana will disappear. Burst Spells are Singularity Beam, Gem Resonance, Ritual of Power, Converge Timelines, Temporal Distortion, and Stabilize the Flow. Autocast first 4 spells, then max time distortion and cast Stabilize the Flow. Once Stabilize the Flow is cast you can swap Temporal Distortion for Superposition once you are high enough level to use it. This is easiest to practice with Interrogator or Archivist since Stabilize the Flow will stay active for a long time.

You could also use Void Lure and Void Radiance for void mana, if you can't pet swap from Voidterror fast enough.

You can also quickly max sources with Homunculus or Simulacrum before and in between bursts if you need more character levels or want to burst more than once per exile.

Also, you said you have ~220 attributes. If you put 225 into mastery that will get you a bunch more character exp and maybe enough levels to unlock more spells, which would probably be the best for profit at your level since each spell gives a big bonus.

still can't reach xp for stabilize the flow, stuck around 108 and need to be 111.

experimenting with Temporal Distortion (set to careful autocast, first time careful was ever useful), wormhole/singularity beam combo, manabeast, synthetic entity, and converge timelines. last 5 reckless. Pixie pet.

banked e75 mysteries, stuck under 400 upgrades so can't get anima construct, 365 achievements out of 425 for archivist. just now unlocked voidterror. can't get geode until item construction which unlocks at e80 mysteries.

EDIT: converge timelines proving more effective at mystery income than temporal distortion. now swapped that with temporal distortion and all 6 current spells are reckless.

now just slugging through e71 mystery income.

also now have 240 attribute points.

EXPERIMENTING AS I WRITE: swapped manabeast with distortion, slightly faster income. swapped back, about the same now. about to reach e72 somewhat slowly. Reached the long run waiting game now.

based on updated limits to what I can do, am I missing anything from what you just told me?

[John Baller]

Well once you get to 250 attributes you can get 175 Mastery and 75 Intelligence, which will give you 1 more level requirement reduction. Sorry, I forgot that you can't get over 200 in an attribute until much later, so you only want 175 Mastery.

You only want to use Pixie for building up your level. Then you want to switch pets for gaining mana. So switch to Homunculus or Simulacrum for a few seconds after leveling up with Pixie until your mana sources are maxed. Then switch to Voidterror to gain void mana and mana. Once on Voidterror don't use Wormhole anymore. Voidterror levels and gains void mana by using Temporal Distortion, not Wormhole. You will get a lot more mana from Voidterror than Pixie.

Use Singularity Beam, Temporal Distortion, Gem Resonance, Ritual of Power, and Converge Timelines. Don't use Wormhole. Void mana multiplies to mana profit, and if you use Wormhole you will constantly lose void mana each time it casts. You can use Spell Focus or Conjure Manabeast for spell shards until you can use Stabilize the Flow.

Edit: Also, if you haven't done Wizard Squad 1, 2, or 3, each of those challenges give 1 level requirement reduction. Unstable Curse 1, 2, and 3 challenges increase character exp. Several other earlier challenges reduces level requirements or increase character exp too.

[John Baller]

I also forgot that Synthetic Entity will give you more void entities per cast if you use Interrogator or Archivist. So you can build void entities faster if you do that for a bit also.

[Arkhne]

Just make certain to stay up to date with Challenges. Some secret achievements can be useful, too. Especially for achievement number unlocks.

[Demimind]

Some T2 pets require some attribute allocations not in mastery and intelligence. What can I sacrifice for Simulacrum and Voidterror and should I sacrifice points to be able to use both of those pets in 1 run?

And to clarify, Wormhole is only good as long as Pixie and Simulacrum is the pet, right?

Also are you saying I should use Interrogator first or Voidterror first. or just one of thosr 2 only?

And what exactly does time distortion do? it just seems to make the background animations move faster, does it actually spped up income too?

One more question for now, since I don't remember seeing the mystery requirement on the wiki, how many does it take to have Homunculus or Simulacrum grind gems for Umbramancer?