Hogwarts Legacy

Hogwarts Legacy

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rman88 14 ENE 2023 a las 7:46 p. m.
Chamber of Secrets.
Ya, we all know threw the movies how to get into this forsaken place. But can we use this to Fight the basilisk? Considering that this takes place way before the movies. It would be neat to break cannon and kill the thing before Voldemort gets the chance.
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Publicado originalmente por rman88:
First of all, Parseltoung just lets you speak to snakes. I have no idea where you get magic cryogenics form.

Further more the movie literately state it is capable of living for hundreds of years. So safe to assume that thing was...actual alive during all that time.

Second, how did tom riddle knew how to first of all access the chamber, Second control the basilisk and lastly why did he give up after killing one person?

I'm not quite sure how he figured it out. But, Tom Riddle did learn about Horcruxes from some of the books in Hogwarts Library. Dumbledore eventually pulled those books from the shelves when he became Headmaster. And he did learn about the ritual of that somehow as well, which the books never gave instructions for apparently.
rman88 14 ENE 2023 a las 8:46 p. m. 
Ya but if that was the case.. That it was hidden in the library. Why dose no one else know about it? Clearly if Voldemort didn't take the books with knowledge on Horcruxes. Why would he take knowledge on controlling basilisk?

Further more, if their is a book on this. This means someone wrote it and knows about it.

Look, as much as we like to think harry potter is amazing. Their is just alot of plot hole when it comes down to it. Like just take a look at the chamber of secrets itself. It is massive, Full of detailed statues and yet no one knows about its existance.

Side note, No one actual needs to speak Parsletong to enter it. Jennie weaselly was able to enter it. And i don't think she can speak that.

Note, longs story short. Jenny weasly entered the chamber. And tom riddle was able to ehh, Take control of her. In order to slowly drain her of her life force so he may resurrect himself.
Última edición por rman88; 14 ENE 2023 a las 8:47 p. m.
Cú/Moon 14 ENE 2023 a las 8:56 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por rman88:
Ya but if that was the case.. That it was hidden in the library. Why dose no one else know about it? Clearly if Voldemort didn't take the books with knowledge on Horcruxes. Why would he take knowledge on controlling basilisk? Further more, if their is a book on this. This means someone wrote it and knows about it.
Dude.... most people would agree HP is not well written, however you can easily fill these gaps though that is horrible writing from the author to expect fans to come up with answers however if i was forced to..
Tom read the books, from the restricted section... he can't take them, I'd assume someone would find them missing...there could be a book written in parceltounge that only he could read or he experimented with his time in the chamber. of course Slytherin would be the person to know and write about it.
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It is massive, Full of detailed statues and yet no one knows about its existance.
No issue here
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Side note, No one actual needs to speak Parsletong to enter it. Jennie weaselly was able to enter it. And i don't think she can speak that.
Tom was in control of ginny and spoke Parceltounge through her not even a plothole.
PainKiller 14 ENE 2023 a las 8:58 p. m. 
hope the chamber is in the game and you can loot it
rman88 14 ENE 2023 a las 9:07 p. m. 
First of all, i said that if the books that had information on the chamber of secrets existed. Why were they missing When the books on Horkruxes were not? Further more why did no one know about it then?

Second, I really don't buy tom was in that much control. Because if that was the case Why did he bring the book? No he was manipulating her but not treating her like a direct puppet. This is why he needed the book to be in close proximity to her.

As really he didn't even need to go to the chamber of secrets. He could have just had her go to her room and kill her their. Then again their was actual no need for the chamber of secrets to be open period. as he just needed a sacrifice in order to resurrect himself.

Why didn't Malfoys dad just sacrifice a death eater? The entire story of chamber of secrets was kinda pointless.
Scheneighnay 14 ENE 2023 a las 9:16 p. m. 
the library plot hole can be filled with ye olde "it's a big library and some books don't get noticed"

snake statue plothole can just be answered with "there are statues everywhere they wouldn't have seemed significant without context"
Cú/Moon 14 ENE 2023 a las 9:20 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por rman88:
First of all, i said that if the books that had information on the chamber of secrets existed. Why were they missing When the books on Horkruxes were not? Further more why did no one know about it then?

Second, I really don't buy tom was in that much control. Because if that was the case Why did he bring the book? No he was manipulating her but not treating her like a direct puppet. This is why he needed the book to be in close proximity to her.

As really he didn't even need to go to the chamber of secrets. He could have just had her go to her room and kill her their. Then again their was actual no need for the chamber of secrets to be open period. as he just needed a sacrifice in order to resurrect himself.

Why didn't Malfoys dad just sacrifice a death eater? The entire story of chamber of secrets was kinda pointless.
I don't even.... can you type clearer please.
Theoretical books may or may not have existed which dumbledoor pulled from the shelves. Books can be acquired in other ways or be hidden also. This is a world in which knowledge can be hidden quite easily e.g. fidelius
Not in control? lol so ginny was killing all those roosters and setting the snake on students partly of her own free will? Tom says directly he made ginny do them.
The book? He needed to be in close contact to possess her what are you even talking about?
Go to the chamber... he was performing a ritual, one that could have been interrupted in the castle. He needed to wait to drain off enough of her life force and he directly states he's been trying to kill harry with the snake, all your issues are non issues in a book that has lots of issues.. it's really weird.
Última edición por Cú/Moon; 14 ENE 2023 a las 9:21 p. m.
Legendary Mr. Tiddles 14 ENE 2023 a las 9:21 p. m. 
It's teen litterature. It's intended to grab the reader by the balls and make them buy many, many sequels and not much else. Nothing really needs to make sense or have any real quality to it. Kind of like boy bands.
rman88 14 ENE 2023 a las 9:37 p. m. 
First of all. If your going to complain about typing. Why don't you actual make proper paragraphs. You know adding a space between them like most normal people.

Second, I just pointed it out its a plot hole. This books that may have led tom riddle to know about anything. Were not actual addressed in the story. And just saying Bla bla Magic doesn't exactly answers anything. as we still don't know anything about the chamber.

Third, What are you talking about? She never killed any roosters. Hell even the wikpida page never mentions that. Sure she was the one who Left the message. But it was just Bla bla magic.

Granted it dose not make any sense why she was their to begin with. or how she didn't die by just being within sight range of the basilisk. But really the basilisk is just as vague as the mandrakes. Who are somehow able to Kill you with the slightest sound. Yet earmuffs are able to somehow block this effect let still let you hear...

Third, What ritual, she was just lying on the floor while Tom Riddle monologue to harry about how he was going to use her to resurrect himself. He literately could have did this to her while she was sleeping. And considering i don't see people Walking into her room in the middle of the night. Only to wake her up for some vague reason.

Fourth, The books is a Horcrux. as you know Horxruxes can only be destroyed by a certain things. Such as a Basilisk tooth. So why would you bring it into the lair of a Basilisk?

Fith as i pointed out before. The books just requires a living person to resurrect him. so why did they decided to use a third party to do this? Why didn't they just sacrifice one of their own kids? The entire plot line of this book is pointless. as they could have resurrect Voldemort without the need to involve Hogwarts.
Cú/Moon 14 ENE 2023 a las 9:56 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por rman88:
proper paragraphs.
Ok :)
Just for you, I'll use proper paragraphs
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This books that may have led tom riddle to know about anything. Were not actual addressed in the story. And just saying Bla bla Magic doesn't exactly answers anything. as we still don't know anything about the chamber.
I can't interact with this... what do you even mean?
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Third, What are you talking about? She never killed any roosters. Hell even the wikpida page never mentions that. Sure she was the one who Left the message. But it was just Bla bla magic.
Lol so you know less than nothing. (hint hint... what did Ginny write on the wall with?)
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Granted it dose not make any sense why she was their to begin with. or how she didn't die by just being within sight range of the basilisk.
(cough)possessed(cough)
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somehow able to Kill you with the slightest sound.
Again what am I reading.... even the movie doesn't give you this conception... oh well. Babies voice can knock you out, a full adult can kill given enough time hearing it.
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Third, What ritual, she was just lying on the floor while Tom Riddle monologue to harry about how he was going to use her to resurrect himself. He literately could have did this to her while she was sleeping. And considering i don't see people Walking into her room in the middle of the night. Only to wake her up for some vague reason.
Lets ignore the part where she was bait to lure harry to the chamber
Publicado originalmente por rman88:
Fourth, The books is a Horcrux. as you know Horxruxes can only be destroyed by a certain things. Such as a Basilisk tooth. So why would you bring it into the lair of a Basilisk?
This is a coincidence and not particularly good writing, however from Tom's point of view what 12 year old is going to kill a fifty feet, spell resistant snake?
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Fith as i pointed out before. The books just requires a living person to resurrect him. so why did they decided to use a third party to do this? Why didn't they just sacrifice one of their own kids? The entire plot line of this book is pointless. as they could have resurrect Voldemort without the need to involve Hogwarts.
Lol, Lucy didn't know what the hell the book was beyond being a dark artefact that he didn't want found by the ministry.... and sacrifice his own kid? what am I reading?
Última edición por Cú/Moon; 14 ENE 2023 a las 9:56 p. m.
"During the 1992–1993 school year many of the roosters were killed by Ginevra Weasley, under influence of Tom Riddle's diary, as a precaution, since the crow of the rooster would be fatal to Salazar Slytherin's basilisk. It is unknown if Hagrid ever replaced them."

Ginny was under Riddle's influence/enchantment. All he had to have her do, was not look at the Basilisk's eyes, so that he could continue using her for his bidding. She'd drop dead looking right at them directly, or she would become petrified looking at the eyes through other means, like reflections and such.

I suppose the same reason why his homunculus form was dropped into the huge cauldron in the graveyard for that particular ritual. Some spells require time with the casting, or the effect of it. And she was also a pureblood too, drawing Riddle more to her.

Horcruxes was very uncommon knowledge. Probably didn't cross his mind, because he had it all planned out. But, unprecedented events occurred, ultimately destroying his plans. Also why Lucius wasn't as careful with it either. He didn't actually know what it was either.
Heraclius Caesar 15 ENE 2023 a las 1:26 a. m. 
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Side note, Harry isn't actual related to Salazar. He is related to his brother.

Being related to Salazars brother would mean he was also related to Salazar. If I'm not mistaken I think it was said that Harry's mother was a descendant of Salazars brother while Harry's father was a descendant of the younger Peverell brother along with Godric Gryffindor.

Publicado originalmente por rman88:
Ya but if that was the case.. That it was hidden in the library. Why dose no one else know about it?
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Second, how did tom riddle knew how to first of all access the chamber, Second control the basilisk and lastly why did he give up after killing one person?

I don't think there was a missing forbidden/hidden book about it in the library or elsewhere. Rowling has said that Tom would have found out about the Chamber & the Basilisk (and the ability to control it) from his Gaunt relatives (descendants of Salazar) who knew about it and kept it as a family secret. I believe it was said he gave up after the 1 death because he felt like Dumbledore was onto him and he feared Dumbledore.
Scheneighnay 15 ENE 2023 a las 8:00 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Xi Jinpooh, Lord of Man-Jynuhs:
"During the 1992–1993 school year many of the roosters were killed by Ginevra Weasley, under influence of Tom Riddle's diary, as a precaution, since the crow of the rooster would be fatal to Salazar Slytherin's basilisk. It is unknown if Hagrid ever replaced them."

Ginny was under Riddle's influence/enchantment. All he had to have her do, was not look at the Basilisk's eyes, so that he could continue using her for his bidding. She'd drop dead looking right at them directly, or she would become petrified looking at the eyes through other means, like reflections and such.

I suppose the same reason why his homunculus form was dropped into the huge cauldron in the graveyard for that particular ritual. Some spells require time with the casting, or the effect of it. And she was also a pureblood too, drawing Riddle more to her.

Horcruxes was very uncommon knowledge. Probably didn't cross his mind, because he had it all planned out. But, unprecedented events occurred, ultimately destroying his plans. Also why Lucius wasn't as careful with it either. He didn't actually know what it was either.
Wait wait wait

So you're telling me

Her name is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Ginevra

I thought the Gineva convention didn't apply to wizards, that was the whole selling point of the game
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