Gaming laptop

[misshvparker]

Hi sorry i dont know much about computers but i have a new Aus gaming Tuf F15 laptop. says.. Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10300H CPU @ 2.50GHz, 2496 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) windows 11. Nvidia Geforce Gtx 1650.

Basically this https://www.currys.co.uk/products/asus-tuf-dash-f15-15.6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-512-gb-ssd-10223261.html

Will i be able to play ok? Sorry know there loads of these questions

Thank you

[Ryu_Sheng]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Blackdragon:

No, "gaming laptop" is an oxymoron to begin with, and yours is outdated, too. GTX 1650? I've got that on my work ultrabook, and I've never considered it suitable for AAA gaming.

Do yourself a favour and buy a decent PC.

I have a gaming laptop that plays every game ive thrown at it flawlessly, including this one. So no, gaming laptops are not an oxymoron. They havent been for a long time

[Ryu_Sheng]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย misshvparker:

Hi sorry i dont know much about computers but i have a new Aus gaming Tuf F15 laptop. says.. Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10300H CPU @ 2.50GHz, 2496 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) windows 11. Nvidia Geforce Gtx 1650.

Basically this https://www.currys.co.uk/products/asus-tuf-dash-f15-15.6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-512-gb-ssd-10223261.html

Will i be able to play ok? Sorry know there loads of these questions

Thank you

Rather than asking here and getting a lot of abuse, head on over to:

https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri

It will tell you if you can run a game, as well as at what settings. I've personally found it to be fairly accurate

[roach112683]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wolf:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Blackdragon:

Well there's your answer, most likely. At such low resolution the game simply didn't challenge either your laptop or your desktop, hence the similar results. Crank it up to 4k and try again, or try a more graphics-intensive test (most games are naturally "older gen" by now, and even many new ones aren't designed as graphic powerhouses). Use some synthetic tests if needed.



One big difference will always be the display. And hence, the resolution. On a 15inch screen, sure 1440p may look fine. On a 30+ inch, not so much. On 40+ inch, no way in Hell will it ever look good. And once you go 4K, even a good laptop won't cut it.

Of course, if you really need portability, I guess it's fair. However, personally I always went in the direction of buying both a reasonably powerful laptop and a high-end desktop PC. Worked out fine for the last 15 or so years.



"Nerd"? LOL! You're posting a literal computer spec advice thread, chum. And before blindly arguing against the first post in the entire thread, how about you read the rest of the discussion, hmm? Maybe you'll change your mind about the validity of "gaming laptops", bro.

I have a gaming laptop. I don't care what you say.

Me too. Alienware from now on.

[Les Yeux De Ni ni]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย misshvparker:

Hi sorry i dont know much about computers but i have a new Aus gaming Tuf F15 laptop. says.. Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10300H CPU @ 2.50GHz, 2496 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) windows 11. Nvidia Geforce Gtx 1650.

Basically this https://www.currys.co.uk/products/asus-tuf-dash-f15-15.6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-512-gb-ssd-10223261.html

Will i be able to play ok? Sorry know there loads of these questions

Thank you

How much RAM?

i have i5 9300H , 16 GB DDR4 RAM and the game was performing alright at medium settings.

We just received a patch.

I haven't tried it yet.

[Sushi és]

i have a similar laptop. It's playable. I get between 40-60 fps

[roach112683]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Blackdragon:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย patrick68794:

Laptops can be perfectly fine for playing games on.

There is a ton wrong with that sentence already. Some laptops may be fine for playing some games on certain settings, but that doesn't mean they are generally a good choice for a gaming machine. For a given price, the laptop will always lose out to the desktop, and the best desktops will always outperform the best laptops by a huge margin.

For this particular game, which is clearly pretty intensive in terms of visuals, the TUF 15 laptop will likely not provide good performance. It will probably require a lot of fiddling and turning settings down to even run at acceptable fps. You can forget about 4k, 120+ fps or HDR, which are the de-facto standards for current gen gameplay. You will also be limited to a tiny 15" display with an inferior matrix.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย patrick68794:

Nobody cares about your opinion on if they can be or not.

The OP literally asked for our opinions.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย patrick68794:

If the OP wants to use a laptop to play games on then provide useful advice or don't say anything.

The OP literally asked whether playing this game on that laptop was a good idea. The advice not to use laptops as gaming machines is eminently useful in my view, it will save money and provide a more enjoyable gaming experience in the long term.

An alternative would be to suggest to the OP to sell that laptop and buy a new "gaming laptop" which will cost 3-4 times as much... and still provide worse performance than a cheaper desktop PC.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย patrick68794:

Saying "laptops aren't for gaming" isn't useful at all and provides absolutely nothing to the discussion.

It is perfectly useful, especially for people who "don't know much about computers" like the OP. Despite all the marketing, laptops are by definition inferior to desktops for gaming, due to their fundamental architectural limitations, not to mention higher price. So the best solution is not to fall for the meme in the first place, and buy a decent gaming desktop PC instead of an expensive and inferior "gaming laptop".

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย patrick68794:

Especially when you don't actually know what you're talking about to begin with.

Dude, I've been gaming for over 30 years. I first started on a 286 PC, and now own a complete ASUS ROG desktop set with a Strix 3090. Over the years I've had four different laptops, my current is an HP Spectre x360 i7-750H with 16 GB RAM and NVidia GTX 1650 Ti discrete graphics card with 4 GB VRAM. By all specs, it is better than the OP's TUF 15 laptop. However, I do not run graphics intensive games on the ultrabook for the simple reason, even this expensive device is leagues and bounds behind my desktop pc. It has a 4k screen, but can't really run visually intensive games at 4k.

Don't take my word for it. Here's an unbiased review of the TUF 15 1650GTX:
https://www.pcgamebenchmark.com/asus-tuf-gaming-f15-review

As you can see, even back then, several years ago, it could only run less than half of 1000 top PC titles. Hogwarts Legacy is a 2023 graphically intensive game. Chances are high that it will not run well, or perhaps at all, on this laptop.

I don't like it when people are deceived when it comes to price/performance ratios of products or services. The "gaming laptop" idea can work in two cases: a) you are a gamer who plays only low-demand games (like CS:GO) which do not tax the machine; b) you pay through the nose for a top-notch "gaming laptop" just so you can play most games at mediocre settings, but never at the same level as a cheaper desktop PC. The OP's case is neither of those: the laptop in question is a dated mid-range affair, and the game in question is an AAA (?) title with very intensive graphics and probably bad optimisation (to be expected from a multi-platform release).

So the answer to the OP's question is a) "probably not", and b) "you should look into desktop PCs instead of buying into the gaming laptop meme".

The laptop I bought was first of its kind. It was a laptop with Desktop components that could be upgraded. Wven though it didn't workout as Alienware hoped it was still a great concept and I can still upgrade to a certain degree if I so choose but only to the maximum specs of the original manufacturer design and specifications.

[4th]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Blackdragon:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย patrick68794:

Laptops can be perfectly fine for playing games on.

There is a ton wrong with that sentence already. Some laptops may be fine for playing some games on certain settings, but that doesn't mean they are generally a good choice for a gaming machine. For a given price, the laptop will always lose out to the desktop, and the best desktops will always outperform the best laptops by a huge margin.

For this particular game, which is clearly pretty intensive in terms of visuals, the TUF 15 laptop will likely not provide good performance. It will probably require a lot of fiddling and turning settings down to even run at acceptable fps. You can forget about 4k, 120+ fps or HDR, which are the de-facto standards for current gen gameplay. You will also be limited to a tiny 15" display with an inferior matrix.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย patrick68794:

Nobody cares about your opinion on if they can be or not.

The OP literally asked for our opinions.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย patrick68794:

If the OP wants to use a laptop to play games on then provide useful advice or don't say anything.

The OP literally asked whether playing this game on that laptop was a good idea. The advice not to use laptops as gaming machines is eminently useful in my view, it will save money and provide a more enjoyable gaming experience in the long term.

An alternative would be to suggest to the OP to sell that laptop and buy a new "gaming laptop" which will cost 3-4 times as much... and still provide worse performance than a cheaper desktop PC.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย patrick68794:

Saying "laptops aren't for gaming" isn't useful at all and provides absolutely nothing to the discussion.

It is perfectly useful, especially for people who "don't know much about computers" like the OP. Despite all the marketing, laptops are by definition inferior to desktops for gaming, due to their fundamental architectural limitations, not to mention higher price. So the best solution is not to fall for the meme in the first place, and buy a decent gaming desktop PC instead of an expensive and inferior "gaming laptop".

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย patrick68794:

Especially when you don't actually know what you're talking about to begin with.

Dude, I've been gaming for over 30 years. I first started on a 286 PC, and now own a complete ASUS ROG desktop set with a Strix 3090. Over the years I've had four different laptops, my current is an HP Spectre x360 i7-750H with 16 GB RAM and NVidia GTX 1650 Ti discrete graphics card with 4 GB VRAM. By all specs, it is better than the OP's TUF 15 laptop. However, I do not run graphics intensive games on the ultrabook for the simple reason, even this expensive device is leagues and bounds behind my desktop pc. It has a 4k screen, but can't really run visually intensive games at 4k.

Don't take my word for it. Here's an unbiased review of the TUF 15 1650GTX:
https://www.pcgamebenchmark.com/asus-tuf-gaming-f15-review

As you can see, even back then, several years ago, it could only run less than half of 1000 top PC titles. Hogwarts Legacy is a 2023 graphically intensive game. Chances are high that it will not run well, or perhaps at all, on this laptop.

I don't like it when people are deceived when it comes to price/performance ratios of products or services. The "gaming laptop" idea can work in two cases: a) you are a gamer who plays only low-demand games (like CS:GO) which do not tax the machine; b) you pay through the nose for a top-notch "gaming laptop" just so you can play most games at mediocre settings, but never at the same level as a cheaper desktop PC. The OP's case is neither of those: the laptop in question is a dated mid-range affair, and the game in question is an AAA (?) title with very intensive graphics and probably bad optimisation (to be expected from a multi-platform release).

So the answer to the OP's question is a) "probably not", and b) "you should look into desktop PCs instead of buying into the gaming laptop meme".

You are an absolute clown. Is it really that difficult for you to understand that not everyone has the luxury to spend thousands of dollars on a maxed out gaming setup or other people who just travel often where a desktop is just not viable? Jesus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ christ man we get it, you have money, who cares? Your comments are nothing but flaunting and condescension. I hope you find a way to deal with your severe case of insecurity.

[Cryerborg]

The game is absolutely playable with a GTX1650, there are resources you can find that will walk you through the best settings for your computer.