This game seems to be heavily dependent on Avada Kedavra

[Ceceli Δ]

In this new gameplay showcase, everytime he needs to finish troll fast, he resorts to Avada Kedrava. Otherwise, he just spent a lot of time using several weak af "good" spells that didn't do much damage. So this begs the question: what if you intend to play as a good wizard? Will you have a bad time because it will take forever to kill monsters without Avada Kedadra?

And this brings us to a new question. I'm not a Potter Head, so I'm not sure about this, but I just saw in a video that not even Dumbledore could effectively defend himself with "good" spells against an Avada Kedadra spell. How will duels happen if the opponent uses an Avada Kedadra on us? How do you counter that? Or it is game over if you don't fill your XP bar faster than the opponent in order to use your Avada Kedadra first?

[vaanomega]

Originally posted by Ceceli ♠:

In this new gameplay showcase, everytime he needs to finish troll fast, he resorts to Avada Kedrava. Otherwise, he just spent a lot of time using several weak af "good" spells that didn't do much damage. So this begs the question: what if you intend to play as a good wizard? Will you have a bad time because it will take forever to kill monsters without Avada Kedadra?

And this brings us to a new question. I'm not a Potter Head, so I'm not sure about this, but I just saw in a video that not even Dumbledore could effectively defend himself with "good" spells against an Avada Kedadra spell. How will duels happen if the opponent uses an Avada Kedadra on us? How do you counter that? Or it is game over if you don't fill your XP bar faster than the opponent in order to use your Avada Kedadra first?

Yeah, the Spell seems a little bit op in my opinion, i hope there is consequences for using dark magic, i also hope there is some good and powerfull non deadly spells

In the movies (don't know for the books), we don't know if you can use protect spells to avoid a Avada Kedavra, but since it's the game, i think this spell wouldn't one shot player or player would be able to parry it

[Puffing Magic Dragon]

I'm hoping they have tons of other spells that can match the power of curse spells because if not then it won't be as fun.

[GorillaGD]

The Killing Curse is a spell that has no magical means to defend against it save for the sacrificial protection (aka sacrificial yourself to protect someone) and the reverse spell if the wand it was casted from is used against another wand that shares the same core, so it will always be fatal if it manages to hit the target. You would have to either dodge the spell or hide behind objects to avoid it's effects.

That being said, if I understood it right, the Dark Arts Battle Arena automatically gives you access to the dark curses just to practice with. You can't actually use them outside of the arena until you've actually gained access to the curses in the game normally, and you will also have to put points into talents before you're able to use them efficiently too, so don't expect to be able to floor everything early in the game.

[Ceceli Δ]

Originally posted by vaanomega:

Originally posted by Ceceli ♠:

In this new gameplay showcase, everytime he needs to finish troll fast, he resorts to Avada Kedrava. Otherwise, he just spent a lot of time using several weak af "good" spells that didn't do much damage. So this begs the question: what if you intend to play as a good wizard? Will you have a bad time because it will take forever to kill monsters without Avada Kedadra?

And this brings us to a new question. I'm not a Potter Head, so I'm not sure about this, but I just saw in a video that not even Dumbledore could effectively defend himself with "good" spells against an Avada Kedadra spell. How will duels happen if the opponent uses an Avada Kedadra on us? How do you counter that? Or it is game over if you don't fill your XP bar faster than the opponent in order to use your Avada Kedadra first?

Yeah, the Spell seems a little bit op in my opinion, i hope there is consequences for using dark magic, i also hope there is some good and powerfull non deadly spells

In the movies (don't know for the books), we don't know if you can use protect spells to avoid a Avada Kedavra, but since it's the game, i think this spell wouldn't one shot player or player would be able to parry it

I read only to the third book, but on the movies, Dumbledore was the only who barely managed to block Voldemort. Harry did it in the 4th movie only because Voldemort wasn't using his own wand, I suppose.

And about those consequences, Idk about that. That would go against the lore.

[Ceceli Δ]

Originally posted by GorillaGD:

The Killing Curse is a spell that has no magical means to defend against it save for the sacrificial protection (aka sacrificial yourself to protect someone) and the reverse spell if the wand it was casted from is used against another wand that shares the same core, so it will always be fatal if it manages to hit the target. You would have to either dodge the spell or hide behind objects to avoid it's effects.

That being said, if I understood it right, the Dark Arts Battle Arena automatically gives you access to the dark curses just to practice with. You can't actually use them outside of the arena until you've actually gained access to the curses in the game normally, and you will also have to put points into talents before you're able to use them efficiently too, so don't expect to be able to floor everything early in the game.

That's interesting. So a knight shield - or maybe a book - would defend a wizard from Avada Kedavra lol

[Noncorporeal™]

Originally posted by Ceceli ♠:

Harry did it in the 4th movie only because Voldemort wasn't using his own wand, I suppose.

He did it because Harry's wand was made with a feather from the same Phoenix as Voldemort. In this one instance, the wands can't actually kill the holder of the other wand, or something like that.

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Subtle_laws_of_wands#Wand_relation

[Blackdragon]

Originally posted by Ceceli ♠:

That's interesting. So a knight shield - or maybe a book - would defend a wizard from Avada Kedavra lol

No, because the Dark Wizard will simply target a part of you that is not protected by the shield/book. And that is assuming the Curse doesn't spread from things it hits to people holding them (which might perfectly well be the case, like in D&D when you can't just use a shield to "block" a Finger of Death spell). In fact, I would assume the Curse only requires line of sight + line of effect to you, and nothing you hold in your hands or wear on your body will affect its effectiveness. Otherwise protecting from it would be as easy as donning a suit of full plate armour with sunglasses.

[Blackdragon]

Originally posted by vaanomega:

Yeah, the Spell seems a little bit op in my opinion, i hope there is consequences for using dark magic, i also hope there is some good and powerfull non deadly spells

In the movies (don't know for the books), we don't know if you can use protect spells to avoid a Avada Kedavra, but since it's the game, i think this spell wouldn't one shot player or player would be able to parry it

The obvious counter to Unforgivable Curses isn't a particular spell trick or anything, it is the fact that these spells are forbidden to use in any circumstances under threat of Azkaban detention for life.

So yeah, killing someone with a Death Curse might in fact be as easy as wishing it very much. However, dealing with the fallout of your action would be much more difficult. Like in real life, killing a person might be as easy as taking a knife and sticking it into their neck, but few people actually do it due to the dire consequences this entails for the hapless murderer.

Thus, the difficulty spike would come not when using the Curse on the initial target, but when facing squads of high-level Aurors sent to snuff out the "Dark Wizard on campus".

Like, for example, in the Dark Arts trailer there is a teacher who finds out you were using Unforgivable Curses ("What have you done!..."). Normally, you would then have to kill him, and make sure you don't get caught for the murder. But at least one other student already knows (your Slytherin partner), so you might have to kill him too, or enter into an uneasy alliance hoping he doesn't break and rat you out. Of course, the sudden death of a teacher would cause a ruckus, and if the Dark Arts cave is found, the school will know that some student(s) have learned, and used, Unforgivable Curses. Which would put you in a bind, to say the least. Maybe you'll miss using regular combat spells at that point...

[BAD BOY]

i think u need to stack some rage bar to be able to use avada kedavra

[WuffWabbit]

That's a bold statement based on a dueling arena where all your spells are unlocked. Actual world play won't be like that, and I'm pretty sure you can't use Avada Kedavra unless you're going down a dark story route, and further, I doubt you'll be getting it in the early game since it's so powerful.

[Blackdragon]

Originally posted by WuffWabbit:

That's a bold statement based on a dueling arena where all your spells are unlocked. Actual world play won't be like that, and I'm pretty sure you can't use Avada Kedavra unless you're going down a dark story route, and further, I doubt you'll be getting it in the early game since it's so powerful.

To use the Death Curse all you need is to wholeheartedly wish the other person dead. Which is easy to imagine when dealing with perceived "enemies of mankind" like (other) Dark Wizards. But yeah, it's a bit different from the regular butterflies and rainbows, so I guess it might count as a "dark route".

[BAD BOY]

in harry potter lore u cant use avada kedavara even if u tried unless your full of hate with intension to kill at any cost. So its just logical u will have some "rage" bar that u can fill by using other combat spells which will allow you to use Avada Kedavra once

[Blackdragon]

Originally posted by bad boy:

in harry potter lore u cant use avada kedavara even if u tried unless your full of hate with intension to kill at any cost. So its just logical u will have some "rage" bar that u can fill by using other combat spells which will allow you to use Avada Kedavra once

I don't think Voldemort or any of the Death Eaters in the books were constrained by this sort of condition.

I think it makes much more sense to have an "evil alignment" score instead which shows your disregard for human life and willingness to use any means to achieve your goals, which would allow you to use the Death Curse effectively. This score would be affected by your actions in the world, like Renegade in Mass Effect, Dark Side in KOTOR and Evil alignments in D&D CRPGs.

[Apollyon]

Cringeworthy take. If anything, it's the people who plan on playing "dark" that should be complaining. There's no fun in killing everything in one hit. It severely lowers the difficulty factor. As for the "price", I imagine you'll get ministry people after you for using unforgivable curses outside of the dark arts arena. Otherwise it's just silly of Avalanche to hand the player this much power with no drawback.

[BAD BOY]

Originally posted by Blackdragon:

Originally posted by bad boy:

in harry potter lore u cant use avada kedavara even if u tried unless your full of hate with intension to kill at any cost. So its just logical u will have some "rage" bar that u can fill by using other combat spells which will allow you to use Avada Kedavra once

I don't think Voldemort or any of the Death Eaters in the books were constrained by this sort of condition.

I think it makes much more sense to have an "evil alignment" score instead which shows your disregard for human life and willingness to use any means to achieve your goals, which would allow you to use the Death Curse effectively. This score would be affected by your actions in the world, like Renegade in Mass Effect, Dark Side in KOTOR and Evil alignments in D&D CRPGs.

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