Woke Propaganda BS ruins the game

[Desensitized]

It's so distracting to have every character be such an obviously forced woke agenda character. Lesbian "marriage", every other character from Korea, Africa, India etc. etc. etc. - I'm pissed at myself for not reading reviews or watching some preview material so I would have seen what I was buying into. The whole point of playing games is escapism - get this Politically charged garbage OUT of our games! I will definitely be more wary about future purchases of new games to avoid this nonsense from now on.

[Stan]

Originally posted by Jozxyqkcat:

Originally posted by Quazy:

one thing that got me and still bugs me is when whats her face said.
"in my home country in our school is 10x the size of hogwarts, and we don't use wands"

cool back story that clearly conflicts with the harry potter universe.
so what is the point in disarming someone?
whats the point of wands.
where were all these warlocks when voldemort was running wild. (its not like distance was a thing)
its one thing to claim that africa has its own wizarding school. its another to claim they are bigger and better then hogwarts when they have so little impact on the story.
just feels like africa having smaller fractured cloisters of secluded magic users would have been more fitting to both her narrative and the worlds. even in a world of magic there has to be some kinda logic.

You are 100% wrong.

Uagadou was created by JK Rowling way before this game came into existence. She wrote about it on Pottermore in 2016. JK Rowling originally said it is the largest and that they don't use wands. The dialogue is nearly verbatim repeating what the original author wrote herself.

Originally posted by JK Rowling:

Uagadou
By J.K. Rowling
Originally published on pottermore on Jan 30th 2016

Although Africa has a number of smaller wizarding schools (for advice on locating these, see here), there is only one that has stood the test of time (at least a thousand years) and achieved an enviable international reputation: Uagadou. The largest of all wizarding schools, it welcomes students from all over the enormous continent. The only address ever given is ‘Mountains of the Moon’; visitors speak of a stunning edifice carved out of the mountainside and shrouded in mist, so that it sometimes appears simply to float in mid-air. Much (some would say all) magic originated in Africa, and Uagadou graduates are especially well versed in Astronomy, Alchemy and Self-Transfiguration.

The wand is a European invention, and while African witches and wizards have adopted it as a useful tool in the last century, many spells are cast simply by pointing the finger or through hand gestures. This gives Uagadou students a sturdy line of defence when accused of breaking the International Statute of Secrecy (‘I was only waving, I never meant his chin to fall off’). At a recent International Symposium of Animagi, the Uagadou School Team attracted a lot of press when their exhibition of synchronised transforming caused a near riot. Many older and more experienced witches and wizards felt threatened by fourteen-year-olds who could turn at will into elephants and cheetahs, and a formal complaint was lodged with the International Confederation of Wizards by Adrian Tutley (Animagus: gerbil). The long list of celebrated ex-students produced by Uagadou includes Babajide Akingbade, who succeeded Albus Dumbledore as the Supreme Mugwump of the International Confederation of Wizards.

Students receive notice that they have gained entrance at Uagadou from Dream Messengers, sent by the headmaster or headmistress of the day. The Dream Messenger will appear to the children as they sleep and will leave a token, usually an inscribed stone, which is found in the child’s hand on waking. No other school employs this method of pupil selection.

You guys are just looking for something to be butt hurt about and it's frankly embarrassing.

There is no point trying to turn hes head, hes been saying that over a year now and refuse to listen anyone else but himself on that matter.

Like there is no true wandless magic because everyone have their wands on pockets or laying on the floor and whatever, Harry was thinking of wands when he made glass disappear or it was upstairs locked inside a box when he inflated hes aunt. list goes on and on.

[vurt]

Originally posted by UnderseaBreak7:

Did it occur to anyone that the point behind the developers putting all of it into the game was a jab at Rowling and her notable stance on those particular topics?

Notable stance? That there are (scientific) differences between male and female? Did you know that's the only reason she's facing death threats, boycotts etc? Did you know that around 99.9% of all humans would agree with her?

Rowling is ultra woke btw, by any normal person's standard, i guess unless you're some type of ultra extremist beyond-woke cultist.

Avalanche faced a huge backlash from these woke lunatics btw, total boycott of the game + the usual death threats.

Didn't play through the entire game but i can't say it seemed woke, and i usually have zero tolerance for that garbage.

[Six of Saturn]

LMAO! Clown ♥♥♥♥!

[Aku]

Originally posted by MCris07:

Oh so now they need to do it honestly and authentically? But you were just complaining about the wokeness in this game?

No, I was stating objective and fact-based opinion.

Originally posted by MCris07:

So which one is it? Believe me, I am not triggered or projecting at all.

Yes you are.

Originally posted by MCris07:

I'm too am also stating things as they are,,,

Nope you're not.

Originally posted by MCris07:

I just find it ridiculous and quite sad that some things that are so small in detail and little technicalities is enough for you guys to come on here and complain about "wokeness".

It's not a small detail. Just like if they had a portrait of Queen Victoria in Hogwarts and she was Black it wouldn't be a small detail. It might be small in the context of the game, but huge in its inauthentic historical portrayal of England.

Originally posted by MCris07:

And apparently we're the sensitive ones however we got people like you losing it over wokeness in a game about such tiny details and technicalities. "It comes off as fake and insulting to the intelligence of the audience"?

I'm not sensitive and I never "lost it." You again project and gaslight. Your remarks always come off as heated and slightly unhinged. Audiences like to be treated intelligently. As someone who has written a fair amount of short fiction, I always make sure my stories respect the intelligence of the audience.

Originally posted by MCris07:

I am pretty sure most people did not feel those things while playing the game and encountering those specific characters. Given by the sales and positive reviews of the game, you guys are in the minority on that one.

This isn't a small minority of players. Many of us love the game while also recognizing when it inserts agenda-driven elements. This is also quite obvious in countless other games, movies, and shows.

Originally posted by MCris07:

Even if game developers did keep it historically accurate and put an LGBTQ person in honestly and authentically, like how you want it, you guys would still complain about the wokeness in the game.

No, that's you projecting your narrative again. Most of us have no issue with a gay person in a game but do have an issue with LGBTQ politics. And here's news for you - a lot of gay people don't like today's LGBTQ agenda either, which has been hijacked by a fringe that does not represent the majority of gays. I'm friends with one.

Originally posted by MCris07:

The fact that you didn't even deny that it is for small details and technicalities that you complain about "wokeness" proves my point that guys truly are the sensitive ones here.

You proved nothing in any of your comments and your understanding of history in general and gay history in particular is wholly inaccurate and built upon current socio-political ideological agendas.

[Zeruca]

Originally posted by Astra:

Agreed - why the witch/wizard in the broomsticks is included in the main story line I will never know. Every time I interact with him/her its really off putting. There is no reason for it other than inclusion. Video games used to be a great place to come to escape the main stream media propaganda and forget about how messed up things are becoming with 'the message' having to be forced in your face.
Hopefully with its sequel they will exclude this and represent the legacy that J.K.Rowling and these content creators aimed for - the purity, beauty and innocence of the magical world of Harry Potter.

100%
The trans character forced into the game made me instantly not buy this game. Then modders removed it but the community started crying. Not supporting a game where kids on the internet choose what I can and cannot mod.

[Desensitized]

Originally posted by MCris07:

Originally posted by Desensitized:

Your gross oversimplification and strawman dishonesty is exactly why forcing this dishonest garbage on people reduces it to nothing more than propaganda.

I could say the same about your propaganda that you were using earlier. So... right back at ya. I'm oversimplifying things? Yet it is you guys that nit pick at the smallest details / technicalities then whine and complain about it. Literally both characters have like what, a few minutes of screen time COMBINED, and you guys complaining about that? There is no dishonesty here. Just calling things the way they are and if you're offended by that then you guys really are the sensitive ones after all. LGBTQ people existing is not forcing anything on anyone.

But you're not though, are you? You've twisted the entire discussion around what YOU want it to be about, and you haven't one time addressed the core complaint I've made. At the same time you've ignored that point and tried to make this an argument about your political preferences, you've also ignored the fact that THAT IS my actual issue with this nonsense.

Well done. You've both missed the point and completely re-framed the discussion around what you want it to be about. Classic narcissism some might say.

[Desensitized]

Originally posted by Aku:

Originally posted by MCris07:

Oh so now they need to do it honestly and authentically? But you were just complaining about the wokeness in this game?

No, I was stating objective and fact-based opinion.

Originally posted by MCris07:

So which one is it? Believe me, I am not triggered or projecting at all.

Yes you are.

Originally posted by MCris07:

I'm too am also stating things as they are,,,

Nope you're not.

Originally posted by MCris07:

I just find it ridiculous and quite sad that some things that are so small in detail and little technicalities is enough for you guys to come on here and complain about "wokeness".

It's not a small detail. Just like if they had a portrait of Queen Victoria in Hogwarts and she was Black it wouldn't be a small detail. It might be small in the context of the game, but huge in its inauthentic historical portrayal of England.

Originally posted by MCris07:

And apparently we're the sensitive ones however we got people like you losing it over wokeness in a game about such tiny details and technicalities. "It comes off as fake and insulting to the intelligence of the audience"?

I'm not sensitive and I never "lost it." You again project and gaslight. Your remarks always come off as heated and slightly unhinged. Audiences like to be treated intelligently. As someone who has written a fair amount of short fiction, I always make sure my stories respect the intelligence of the audience.

Originally posted by MCris07:

I am pretty sure most people did not feel those things while playing the game and encountering those specific characters. Given by the sales and positive reviews of the game, you guys are in the minority on that one.

This isn't a small minority of players. Many of us love the game while also recognizing when it inserts agenda-driven elements. This is also quite obvious in countless other games, movies, and shows.

Originally posted by MCris07:

Even if game developers did keep it historically accurate and put an LGBTQ person in honestly and authentically, like how you want it, you guys would still complain about the wokeness in the game.

No, that's you projecting your narrative again. Most of us have no issue with a gay person in a game but do have an issue with LGBTQ politics. And here's news for you - a lot of gay people don't like today's LGBTQ agenda either, which has been hijacked by a fringe that does not represent the majority of gays. I'm friends with one.

Originally posted by MCris07:

The fact that you didn't even deny that it is for small details and technicalities that you complain about "wokeness" proves my point that guys truly are the sensitive ones here.

You proved nothing in any of your comments and your understanding of history in general and gay history in particular is wholly inaccurate and built upon current socio-political ideological agendas.

This post is so well written and explained, I really can't see a way to say it any better.
Thank you.

[actuatedgear]

Originally posted by MCris07:

Originally posted by actuatedgear:

Yeah, no SHOVE THAT UP YOUR BUTT!

It's historical REVISIONISM. It's like making MLK white or Andrew Jackson a woman.

It don't work and its insulting to all the people who were MURDERED back then for even suggesting such a thing.

Lol so you have nothing intelligent to add so you just insult. Typical.

Your completely idiotic take adds nothing by dint of being stupid.

Your take is literally an insult to all the people who died throughout history for these problems.

Just shut up.

[Sunsetter]

It's pure irony that devs are doing everything they can to pander to THE VERY PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE THEIR GAME FAIL - as in they want your studio closed and your livelihood gone so you cant feed yourself and your family.
And somehow I doubt they'll learn their lesson in the sequel.

[Kamikaze Velociraptor]

Imagine being triggered by a video game/fantasy novel. If this easily upset you then you grew up very sheltered and not an adult, but a child in an adult body.

[Desensitized]

Originally posted by Kamikaze Velociraptor:

Imagine being triggered by a video game/fantasy novel. If this easily upset you then you grew up very sheltered and not an adult, but a child in an adult body.

This is your reaction to someone you don't agree with? To dehumanize and legitimize them as a person? Strangely enough you don't even realize just how ignorant your comment is, while telling the world how sheltered you've been you're entire life so far. The irony is not lost on me or anyone reading your comment.

[Desensitized]

Originally posted by actuatedgear:

Originally posted by MCris07:

Lol so you have nothing intelligent to add so you just insult. Typical.

Your completely idiotic take adds nothing by dint of being stupid.

Your take is literally an insult to all the people who died throughout history for these problems.

Just shut up.

Wow, very high level argument capability shown there my friend. Nothing like telling the other party to "just shut up" to really drive home how worthwhile your opinions really are, I always say.

[Snow_99]

Originally posted by Aku:

Originally posted by MCris07:

Oh so now they need to do it honestly and authentically? But you were just complaining about the wokeness in this game?

No, I was stating objective and fact-based opinion.

Nope, you literally have just been complaining about "wokeness" in this game all over small details, technicalities, and now for "the intelligence of the audience". I wonder what else you're going to add to this list of yours. Your own words are there, go see for yourself.

Originally posted by MCris07:

So which one is it? Believe me, I am not triggered or projecting at all.

Yes you are.

Nope. I found it absolutely hilarious reading this for the first time that you actually think that.

Originally posted by MCris07:

I'm too am also stating things as they are,,,

Nope you're not.

Yup, still stating things as they are regardless if they offend you.

Originally posted by MCris07:

I just find it ridiculous and quite sad that some things that are so small in detail and little technicalities is enough for you guys to come on here and complain about "wokeness".

It's not a small detail. Just like if they had a portrait of Queen Victoria in Hogwarts and she was Black it wouldn't be a small detail. It might be small in the context of the game, but huge in its inauthentic historical portrayal of England.

Oh so now it's not a small detail? You literally said earlier "It doesn't matter if it was just a few lines of dialogue". Lol make up your mind and stop contradicting yourself. You're making this too easy and funny.

Originally posted by MCris07:

And apparently we're the sensitive ones however we got people like you losing it over wokeness in a game about such tiny details and technicalities. "It comes off as fake and insulting to the intelligence of the audience"?

I'm not sensitive and I never "lost it." You again project and gaslight. Your remarks always come off as heated and slightly unhinged. Audiences like to be treated intelligently. As someone who has written a fair amount of short fiction, I always make sure my stories respect the intelligence of the audience.

"I'm not sensitive". Coming from the guy complaining about "wokeness" in a game over such small details and technicalities. Hard to believe that you're not. No projecting here and if my words are gas lighting to you, then it REALLY makes it hard to believe you're not sensitive. Heated? Nah, I'm chilling here drinking an ice coffee while typing this.

Originally posted by MCris07:

I am pretty sure most people did not feel those things while playing the game and encountering those specific characters. Given by the sales and positive reviews of the game, you guys are in the minority on that one.

This isn't a small minority of players. Many of us love the game while also recognizing when it inserts agenda-driven elements. This is also quite obvious in countless other games, movies, and shows.

Oh it is. Facts don't care about your feelings. Look at the numbers, reviews, and sales of this game. Best selling game of 2023. Clearly it is a minority of players just based on the numbers and sales alone. However, if you need more proof, please go look at the reviews yourself, and then you'll truly see the minority of players complaining about the "wokeness" in this game. But hey say whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better.

Originally posted by MCris07:

Even if game developers did keep it historically accurate and put an LGBTQ person in honestly and authentically, like how you want it, you guys would still complain about the wokeness in the game.

No, that's you projecting your narrative again. Most of us have no issue with a gay person in a game but do have an issue with LGBTQ politics. And here's news for you - a lot of gay people don't like today's LGBTQ agenda either, which has been hijacked by a fringe that does not represent the majority of gays. I'm friends with one.

Yes, it is true. Once again, there is no denying that regardless of your feelings. No narrative here just reality. According to you and your list, the game devs historically inaccurately, dishonestly, and in-authentically placed a gay character in this game. But hypothetically even if they did, then its "we have an issue with LGBTQ politics". LOL like there is literally no winning with you guys at all. Once again proved my point you guys would still complain no matter what. Literally there have been so many new stories / articles I have seen from different news networks (liberal and conservative networks POVs) about "woke propaganda" in almost everything even though it is something so small in regards to whatever they are complaining about or defending. A gay / trans character can be in any movie, show, or video game and literally have little to no lines and screen time but people will still say the movie, show, and video game is "woke". Kinda sounds familiar to you guys actually now that I think about it (This is gaslighting. since you have a hard time understanding what gaslighting really is) . It's no news here for me but thank you for thinking you gave me new information I didn't already know about the LGBTQ community. I am apart of the LGBTQ community and I know plenty of these people myself and I somewhat agree with them. But even they agree that "anti-woke" people are too sensitive most of the time.

Originally posted by MCris07:

The fact that you didn't even deny that it is for small details and technicalities that you complain about "wokeness" proves my point that guys truly are the sensitive ones here.

You proved nothing in any of your comments and your understanding of history in general and gay history in particular is wholly inaccurate and built upon current socio-political ideological agendas.

Oh I have, but if you want to remain blind to what I am telling you then by all means stay that way. You've proven nothing in any of your comments, only nit picking at the small details / technicalities and use that as your excuse to complain about the "wokeness" in this game. From the very beginning that's all you've done. What I had to say to that is you guys simply are being too sensitive and I still stand by that. We obviously are not going to agree with each other and that's totally fine. We're entitled to our opinions and stances. I too sometimes think the current LBGTQ community takes it too far, but at the same time. All you "anti-woke" people in reality are just very sensitive and will complain about the smallest of things that are different from the norm. "Wokeness" is not going anywhere at all and if "wokeness" offends you guys so much. You guys are really in for a harsh reality check.

[Snow_99]

Originally posted by Desensitized:

Originally posted by MCris07:

I could say the same about your propaganda that you were using earlier. So... right back at ya. I'm oversimplifying things? Yet it is you guys that nit pick at the smallest details / technicalities then whine and complain about it. Literally both characters have like what, a few minutes of screen time COMBINED, and you guys complaining about that? There is no dishonesty here. Just calling things the way they are and if you're offended by that then you guys really are the sensitive ones after all. LGBTQ people existing is not forcing anything on anyone.

But you're not though, are you? You've twisted the entire discussion around what YOU want it to be about, and you haven't one time addressed the core complaint I've made. At the same time you've ignored that point and tried to make this an argument about your political preferences, you've also ignored the fact that THAT IS my actual issue with this nonsense.

Well done. You've both missed the point and completely re-framed the discussion around what you want it to be about. Classic narcissism some might say.

I have addressed everything. But just like with the other guy. If you want to remain blind to what I am telling you then by all means, stay that way. Only you would say I have twisted the conversation, when in reality I am simply replying back to you being a sensitive person. Apparently I am "twisting" and "re-framing" the discussion when I am simply responding back to your original comment. The core complaint you've made is your tired of all the "woke" garbage in this game. I replied back stating you're being too sensitive over two characters that had less than a few minutes of screen-time, COMBINED. "Wokeness" is not going anywhere and if you can't get past that, you're in for a rough reality check.

[notalive_zombie]

Originally posted by Quazy:

one thing that got me and still bugs me is when whats her face said.
"in my home country in our school is 10x the size of hogwarts, and we don't use wands"

cool back story that clearly conflicts with the harry potter universe.
so what is the point in disarming someone?
whats the point of wands.
where were all these warlocks when voldemort was running wild. (its not like distance was a thing)
its one thing to claim that africa has its own wizarding school. its another to claim they are bigger and better then hogwarts when they have so little impact on the story.
just feels like africa having smaller fractured cloisters of secluded magic users would have been more fitting to both her narrative and the worlds. even in a world of magic there has to be some kinda logic.

Yeah, this makes no sense! I mean I still like Natty as a character but even today when I was doing one of her quest lines, they literally reminded me that she could cast magic without a wand. "Even Natty and her ability to cast magic without a wand would have trouble with this!" This makes no sense!