Hogwarts Legacy

Hogwarts Legacy

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Winter 18 Thg03, 2023 @ 2:02pm
Combat difficult is total joke in this game even on Hard
And they called it hard dificult ? Just one thunderbrew potion with talent take down end game story boss just in few sec. Imagine talk how OP is unforgivable curse in this game than thunderbrew potion can wipe anything in few sec with massive aoe. Wait forget there is another potion called endurance that make you immortal.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Winter; 18 Thg03, 2023 @ 2:07pm
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Dr. Peppermill 19 Thg03, 2023 @ 3:08am 
Nguyên văn bởi Mindaugas:
And they called it hard dificult ? Just one thunderbrew potion with talent take down end game story boss just in few sec. Imagine talk how OP is unforgivable curse in this game than thunderbrew potion can wipe anything in few sec with massive aoe. Wait forget there is another potion called endurance that make you immortal.

Nobody forces you to use potions. In the last 20-30 hours of the game, including the final boss fight I used only a few health potions, despite the fact I had the max. amount of each other potion. In the first half of the game potion are useful, after that you need only health potions if you play on Normal difficulty. I regret I wasted talent points for talents that boost potions' effects.

This is not unique to this game, you can see it in several other RPGs. I remember it was pretty much the same in Witcher 3.

BTW potions are nothing compared to Avada Kedavra, which kills the nastiest trolls and mini-boses in one hit. It's good it's the last spell you learn, otherwise the game would be completely broken.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Dr. Peppermill; 19 Thg03, 2023 @ 3:19am
ShockedHearts 19 Thg03, 2023 @ 4:32am 
Nguyên văn bởi Gabriel:
Nguyên văn bởi ShockedHearts:
mods are the way to go.

im working on one myself

how does enemies have 2x health 2x dmg always same or higher level than you, more aggressive, larger groups, enemies know more spell types, potions and plants twice as expensive to craft and buy etc sound?

cause thats what Im doing

Master Mode or something idk

2x health sounds like bullet sponge hell. Even souls games don't do this ♥♥♥♥. Just disable potions and plants altogether, except health potions, but limit them to single digit. Though, that does kill half the combat and makes a bunch of talents useless.
its not. in the base game on hard most enemies get defeated rather easily and VERY quickly.
Gabriel 19 Thg03, 2023 @ 4:25pm 
Nguyên văn bởi ShockedHearts:
Nguyên văn bởi Gabriel:

2x health sounds like bullet sponge hell. Even souls games don't do this ♥♥♥♥. Just disable potions and plants altogether, except health potions, but limit them to single digit. Though, that does kill half the combat and makes a bunch of talents useless.
its not. in the base game on hard most enemies get defeated rather easily and VERY quickly.

Maybe but remember this game also has a very limited amount of offensive spells. Enemies have the HP they have probably by design, not many combos you can do and combat can get tedious. Just kill a dugbog without slicing its tongue or flipping it on its back, it's extremely boring.
Encleaver 19 Thg03, 2023 @ 4:31pm 
I agree, game was easy on hard. But i'm sure it's w/e because game is built around exploration and story. I don't think it would be fun to fight wolfs, frogs or any other enemy for 10 minutes just because you love some challenge...
ShockedHearts 19 Thg03, 2023 @ 5:31pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Encleaver:
I agree, game was easy on hard. But i'm sure it's w/e because game is built around exploration and story. I don't think it would be fun to fight wolfs, frogs or any other enemy for 10 minutes just because you love some challenge...
there is a big difference from giving a wolf 5x more hp. and nothing else

vs making the wolfs 2-3x faster and more aggressive, less delays in their attacks with a tiny health upgrade. say 50% more hp than normal

that way they are an ACTUAL threat. AND dont always get one shot lmao

masssssssove difference

(also then just dont play on that difficulty if you dont like it???)
Lần sửa cuối bởi ShockedHearts; 19 Thg03, 2023 @ 5:34pm
ShockedHearts 19 Thg03, 2023 @ 5:32pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Gabriel:
Nguyên văn bởi ShockedHearts:
its not. in the base game on hard most enemies get defeated rather easily and VERY quickly.

Maybe but remember this game also has a very limited amount of offensive spells. Enemies have the HP they have probably by design, not many combos you can do and combat can get tedious. Just kill a dugbog without slicing its tongue or flipping it on its back, it's extremely boring.
as stated in the other post.

there is a big difference between

A) just giving enemies a lot more HP (boring and lazy)

or

B) making enemies more aggressive and do more dmg and be an actual threat you cant OHKO with any spell in the game

for example

wolves in default game on hard stand around and do nothing a lot. they do almost NO dmg at all. and they get DESTROYED by literally anything you use.

now imagine if they attacked twice as fast. ran around you more, were in slightly larger groups. with a minimal hp boost so you dont one shot them

(also just dont play on that difficulty if you dont like it???)
Lần sửa cuối bởi ShockedHearts; 19 Thg03, 2023 @ 5:34pm
Gabriel 19 Thg03, 2023 @ 6:50pm 
Nguyên văn bởi ShockedHearts:
Nguyên văn bởi Gabriel:

Maybe but remember this game also has a very limited amount of offensive spells. Enemies have the HP they have probably by design, not many combos you can do and combat can get tedious. Just kill a dugbog without slicing its tongue or flipping it on its back, it's extremely boring.
as stated in the other post.

there is a big difference between

A) just giving enemies a lot more HP (boring and lazy)

or

B) making enemies more aggressive and do more dmg and be an actual threat you cant OHKO with any spell in the game

for example

wolves in default game on hard stand around and do nothing a lot. they do almost NO dmg at all. and they get DESTROYED by literally anything you use.

now imagine if they attacked twice as fast. ran around you more, were in slightly larger groups. with a minimal hp boost so you dont one shot them

(also just dont play on that difficulty if you dont like it???)

nah, it would be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoying
ShockedHearts 20 Thg03, 2023 @ 2:13pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Gabriel:
Nguyên văn bởi ShockedHearts:
as stated in the other post.

there is a big difference between

A) just giving enemies a lot more HP (boring and lazy)

or

B) making enemies more aggressive and do more dmg and be an actual threat you cant OHKO with any spell in the game

for example

wolves in default game on hard stand around and do nothing a lot. they do almost NO dmg at all. and they get DESTROYED by literally anything you use.

now imagine if they attacked twice as fast. ran around you more, were in slightly larger groups. with a minimal hp boost so you dont one shot them

(also just dont play on that difficulty if you dont like it???)

nah, it would be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoying
then dont play on that difficulty. lmao. sounds like a you issue if 1 difficulty being annoying to you isnt ok. especially considering this game has 3 easy modes.
They sold you a unfinished game.
LaughingGoblin 20 Thg03, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
Well if you wanted Dark Souls or Elden Ring why are you playing Hogwarts? You do know that souls like is not the only target market of players right? Most players want a certain challenge but mostly chill and a good story, take a wild guess for whom this game was tweaked for...
ShockedHearts 20 Thg03, 2023 @ 3:42pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Vassago:
Well if you wanted Dark Souls or Elden Ring why are you playing Hogwarts? You do know that souls like is not the only target market of players right? Most players want a certain challenge but mostly chill and a good story, take a wild guess for whom this game was tweaked for...
everyone? the 30+ year old audience? if it was "tweaked" to be easy then why even have difficulties at all?

they could easily do souls forced difficulty but instead of hard just have it be a set easy experience.

story is creative mode and hard is easy.

makes no sense. the set difficulties OR your argument
JocularJosh 20 Thg03, 2023 @ 3:42pm 
Nguyên văn bởi ShockedHearts:
wolves in default game on hard stand around and do nothing a lot. they do almost NO dmg at all. and they get DESTROYED by literally anything you use.)
Have you actually played on easy or story at least once?
My main playthrough (100%) was on hard so I got used to all enemies but once I replayed on story it is actually laughable how slow enemies are and how little they attack.
Like, if you just compare story to hard you will see a huge difference in that.

While yes, they get killed easily in my playthrough they were aggressive as ♥♥♥♥ all the damn time. Especially in battle arenas it got really annoying since they were everywhere.
ShockedHearts 20 Thg03, 2023 @ 3:46pm 
Nguyên văn bởi JocularJosh:
Nguyên văn bởi ShockedHearts:
wolves in default game on hard stand around and do nothing a lot. they do almost NO dmg at all. and they get DESTROYED by literally anything you use.)
Have you actually played on easy or story at least once?
My main playthrough (100%) was on hard so I got used to all enemies but once I replayed on story it is actually laughable how slow enemies are and how little they attack.
Like, if you just compare story to hard you will see a huge difference in that.

While yes, they get killed easily in my playthrough they were aggressive as ♥♥♥♥ all the damn time. Especially in battle arenas it got really annoying since they were everywhere.
I play exclusively on hard. and have 100% the game twice.

cmobat was easy from start to finish and besides dugbogs which are very predictable to dodge/parry almost every enemy was easily one shot and stood around hardly doing anything.

I can sit there and watch enemies dawdle around on hard. hard is easy mode imo. easy and story modes are equal to creative in minecraft.

comparitvely they are different.

hard is still extremely easy though. a shame to even call it hard. thats also to say I never used potions or plants or gear upgrades, which with the current difficulty even on hard are made useless by how easily you 1shot and out speed everything.
Lần sửa cuối bởi ShockedHearts; 20 Thg03, 2023 @ 3:48pm
JocularJosh 20 Thg03, 2023 @ 3:52pm 
Nguyên văn bởi ShockedHearts:
Nguyên văn bởi JocularJosh:
Have you actually played on easy or story at least once?
My main playthrough (100%) was on hard so I got used to all enemies but once I replayed on story it is actually laughable how slow enemies are and how little they attack.
Like, if you just compare story to hard you will see a huge difference in that.

While yes, they get killed easily in my playthrough they were aggressive as ♥♥♥♥ all the damn time. Especially in battle arenas it got really annoying since they were everywhere.
I play exclusively on hard. and have 100% the game twice.

cmobat was easy from start to finish and besides dugbogs which are very predictable to dodge/parry almost every enemy was easily one shot and stood around hardly doing anything.

I can sit there and watch enemies dawdle around on hard. hard is easy mode imo. easy and story modes are equal to creative in minecraft.

comparitvely they are different.

hard is still extremely easy though. a shame to even call it hard. thats also to say I never used potions or plants or gear upgrades, which with the current difficulty even on hard are made useless by how easily you 1shot and out speed everything.
I do agree that hard is too easy...for me. But I play all my games on the hardes difficulty.
If you compare the difficulties to one another you will realize that hard is, compared to story, pretty damn hard.

I just don't even have the expectation anymore for hard modes to be a challange for me considering how many games I beat and I think with casual games such as this one that's okay. Especially since there is not even an achievement for it or anything like that.

Though, sure, an actual HARD mode will always be a nice addition. To any game.
ShockedHearts 20 Thg03, 2023 @ 3:58pm 
Nguyên văn bởi JocularJosh:
Nguyên văn bởi ShockedHearts:
I play exclusively on hard. and have 100% the game twice.

cmobat was easy from start to finish and besides dugbogs which are very predictable to dodge/parry almost every enemy was easily one shot and stood around hardly doing anything.

I can sit there and watch enemies dawdle around on hard. hard is easy mode imo. easy and story modes are equal to creative in minecraft.

comparitvely they are different.

hard is still extremely easy though. a shame to even call it hard. thats also to say I never used potions or plants or gear upgrades, which with the current difficulty even on hard are made useless by how easily you 1shot and out speed everything.
I do agree that hard is too easy...for me. But I play all my games on the hardes difficulty.
If you compare the difficulties to one another you will realize that hard is, compared to story, pretty damn hard.

I just don't even have the expectation anymore for hard modes to be a challange for me considering how many games I beat and I think with casual games such as this one that's okay. Especially since there is not even an achievement for it or anything like that.

Though, sure, an actual HARD mode will always be a nice addition. To any game.
and that is why Im working on a a true hard mode, master mode or something

enemies will be in larger groups attack more frequently know more spell combos, be higher level than you (no overleveling) items and upgrades will be more expensive

you will be more encouraged to buy things, more encouraged to use the room of requirement, and have to actually use strategy to overcome enemies or struggle in a longer duel with them

an actual challenge for those who want it. such as myself.

you come across a spider den with this mode and you will be facing 5-15 large spiders and small spiders flailing themselves and surrounding you, you will have to utilize fire and keep on your toes as you counter their constant shots

they cant be 1-shot easily you will have to utilize proper weaknesses to take down enemies, in the situation confringo and incendio will destroy the group especailly with the upgrades. watch them all frantically run around and overcome the enemy.

vs vanilla hard. 4 spiders you shot once or twice and they are dead. amazing. lol

even the tutorial im using to test is so much more fun.

the enemies flying at you one after the other getting 1-2 shots in between dodges and counters, having to pacify the group to take them down because they are relentless. actual challenge makes the combat more satisfying because you are using skill and knowledge to overcome and actual threat.
Lần sửa cuối bởi ShockedHearts; 20 Thg03, 2023 @ 4:00pm
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