Is my cpu the problem here?

[Ziza]

so im getting really bad frames here below 60 into the 40's sometimes, im gaming on a 3060 with a i3 10100f, is the game poorly optmized or am i having a cpu problem?

[spicy little monkey]

The game was optimised for consoles that have 8 core Ryzen 7 3000s basically.

[The_GarlicBread]

If you are playing with RT On, Then Yep.
Else, Post your System Specs, Like RAM and your game settings. This game eats RAM for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It's a RAM Hungry monsters.!!. .

So, If you got 16GB RAM, reduce your Texture Quality and use DLSS.

[FeilDOW]

I'd suggest finding a used 10th gen i5 or i7 and 32gb RAM.

[cswiger]

Originally posted by The_GarlicBread:

So, If you got 16GB RAM, reduce your Texture Quality and use DLSS.

Whether you need to lower Texture Quality depends mostly upon how much VRAM your GPU has. Whether you need to use DLSS depends mostly on whether your GPU is too slow to give you your preferred framerate.

I've got a 16 GB RAM system with an 11 GB VRAM 1080 Ti. Materials Quality, Sky Quality, and Texture Quality are all on Ultra, the rest are mostly on high, RT off. Playing at 2560 x 1440 and getting 40ish fps worst case in Hogsmeade, and mostly 60 fps otherwise.

Turning RT stuff on needs more RAM as well as an RTX-era GPU and you'd want 32 GB of system RAM, but RT off is not as RAM hungry. Not quite, anyway....

[The_GarlicBread]

Hmm.. Texture Quality settings ALSO DEPENDS ON YOUR RAM along with VRAM. Even if you got 24GB VRAM, this game uses more than 20GB RAM.
He's got 3060. DLSS is a must for this game.

Read his post properly.

[Weird Potato]

Originally posted by ziza:

a 3060 with a i3 10100f

almost spat my drink out.

If you care about gaming performance, don't buy xx100 intel processors.

[The_GarlicBread]

Lol.. check GamersNexus Video about these processors. You will drink that spat drink.

[Maverick81PL]

maybe, I have ryzen 5 2600 and game runs like trash, changed to ryzen 5 5600X and have no issue.. almost :P

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by ziza:

so im getting really bad frames here below 60 into the 40's sometimes, im gaming on a 3060 with a i3 10100f, is the game poorly optmized or am i having a cpu problem?

It's probably both. The game certainly isn't perfectly optimised, but even if it were, your CPU would still put the brakes on your GPU. I don't know who selected that hardware combination to you, but you're basically wasting money. With that CPU, you could have bought a considerably cheaper GPU from one or two generations earlier and would probably have the same performance.

Things have changed a bit in the PC hardware space. For a long time, you could have decent performance with almost any CPU, provided that your GPU was good. This has changed about 2 years ago. CPU performance has become increasingly important, and this trend will continue. Modern triple-A games will target the hardware of current-gen consoles, and against those CPUs, yours is unfortunately woefully underequipped.

[Ziza]

Originally posted by The_GarlicBread:

If you are playing with RT On, Then Yep.
Else, Post your System Specs, Like RAM and your game settings. This game eats RAM for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It's a RAM Hungry monsters.!!. :kratos_eyebrow:.

So, If you got 16GB RAM, reduce your Texture Quality and use DLSS.

im using 16 gigs of ram and running the game on medium

[FeilDOW]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by ziza:

so im getting really bad frames here below 60 into the 40's sometimes, im gaming on a 3060 with a i3 10100f, is the game poorly optmized or am i having a cpu problem?

It's probably both. The game certainly isn't perfectly optimised, but even if it were, your CPU would still put the brakes on your GPU. I don't know who selected that hardware combination to you, but you're basically wasting money. With that CPU, you could have bought a considerably cheaper GPU from one or two generations earlier and would probably have the same performance.

Things have changed a bit in the PC hardware space. For a long time, you could have decent performance with almost any CPU, provided that your GPU was good. This has changed about 2 years ago. CPU performance has become increasingly important, and this trend will continue. Modern triple-A games will target the hardware of current-gen consoles, and against those CPUs, yours is unfortunately woefully underequipped.

The 10100f actually has better IPC than the desktop 2700 and it runs 600Mhz faster then the console version, it just has half the cores. What games do you play that 100% 4c/8t definitely not hogwarts, so this means the 10100f will run the 3060 better then a zen2 chip and be right there with zen3 in hogwarts.

The 3060 will be running just fine with the IPC of the 10100f, an issue will only arise when an engine needs more then 4c/8t and its rare a engine scales that well.

I'd still upgrade to a i5 or i7 since they can be found used cheap, but my guess is that OP is having a RAM issue and possibly a VRAM issue if the 3060 is the 8gb model.

[Ziza]

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

Originally posted by Psyringe:

It's probably both. The game certainly isn't perfectly optimised, but even if it were, your CPU would still put the brakes on your GPU. I don't know who selected that hardware combination to you, but you're basically wasting money. With that CPU, you could have bought a considerably cheaper GPU from one or two generations earlier and would probably have the same performance.

Things have changed a bit in the PC hardware space. For a long time, you could have decent performance with almost any CPU, provided that your GPU was good. This has changed about 2 years ago. CPU performance has become increasingly important, and this trend will continue. Modern triple-A games will target the hardware of current-gen consoles, and against those CPUs, yours is unfortunately woefully underequipped.

The 10100f actually has better IPC than the desktop 2700 and it runs 600Mhz faster then the console version, it just has half the cores. What games do you play that 100% 4c/8t definitely not hogwarts, so this means the 10100f will run the 3060 better then a zen2 chip and be right there with zen3 in hogwarts.

The 3060 will be running just fine with the IPC of the 10100f, an issue will only arise when an engine needs more then 4c/8t and its rare a engine scales that well.

I'd still upgrade to a i5 or i7 since they can be found used cheap, but my guess is that OP is having a RAM issue and possibly a VRAM issue if the 3060 is the 8gb model.

i have the 12gb model

[FeilDOW]

Originally posted by ziza:

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

The 10100f actually has better IPC than the desktop 2700 and it runs 600Mhz faster then the console version, it just has half the cores. What games do you play that 100% 4c/8t definitely not hogwarts, so this means the 10100f will run the 3060 better then a zen2 chip and be right there with zen3 in hogwarts.

The 3060 will be running just fine with the IPC of the 10100f, an issue will only arise when an engine needs more then 4c/8t and its rare a engine scales that well.

I'd still upgrade to a i5 or i7 since they can be found used cheap, but my guess is that OP is having a RAM issue and possibly a VRAM issue if the 3060 is the 8gb model.

i have the 12gb model

Watch your CPU/GPU/RAM usage and see whats going on when you drop FPS. I assume you're playing at 1080p?

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

The 10100f actually has better IPC than the desktop 2700 and it runs 600Mhz faster then the console version, it just has half the cores. What games do you play that 100% 4c/8t definitely not hogwarts, so this means the 10100f will run the 3060 better then a zen2 chip and be right there with zen3 in hogwarts.

Well, my reasoning is that:
a) The 10100 doesn't perform much better in gaming-related benchmarks than the i5-6600, which the game lists as minimum requirement. (It is better, but not by much.)
b) Many players consider the game's minimum requirements to be too low.
c) The game has areas that are known to be CPU-specific, such as Hogsmeade. In fact, benchmarkers and reviewers have started to measure the performance of this game in Hogsmeade for specifically that reason. Might be useful to check whether that's one of the areas where the OP encounters FPS dips.

That said, I can't guarantee that my assessment is correct, I'd just say that it is a reasonable one. Checking the amount of RAM definitely makes sense as well (though some users have reported that the game even runs okay on their 8GB machine). You seem to be on a good track with the OP.

[FeilDOW]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

The 10100f actually has better IPC than the desktop 2700 and it runs 600Mhz faster then the console version, it just has half the cores. What games do you play that 100% 4c/8t definitely not hogwarts, so this means the 10100f will run the 3060 better then a zen2 chip and be right there with zen3 in hogwarts.

c) The game has areas that are known to be CPU-specific, such as Hogsmeade. In fact, benchmarkers and reviewers have started to measure the performance of this game in Hogsmeade for specifically that reason. Might be useful to check whether that's one of the areas where the OP encounters FPS dips.

Its only CPU limited because the engine doesn't scale to more then a core or 2 so a CPU with more cores isn't going to help, its single core performance (IPC) it wants and needs. If the engine scaled to 8 cores we wouldn't see a CPU limitation.

If the OP upgraded to a 10700k it would help because of its much higher clock speeds would give 15-20% higher IPC but the extra cores won't do anything in hogwarts. The 10600k would also give a good jump in IPC.