VRAM bottleneck

[Kizuna Dragon]

If you play the game and the framerate is fine and smooth, only to turn a corner and suddenly you have 7 FPS and it stays there. Thats a Vram bottleneck, your graphics card doesn't have enough VRAM on it for Hogwarts to run smoothly at the settings you're using.

solution:
buy a new video card with more VRAM. No one wants to hear this but it's the only way to 100% get rid of that bottleneck as you cannot just upgrade your Vram.


mitigations:
Turn down your settings, play on high or medium and use DLSS is your card can support it. This will decrease the need for more VRAM and hopefully let you play smoothly.


Hogwart's Legacy is a RAM eater, both VRAM and system ram and unfortunately it's making a lot of video cards with less than 12 GB VRAM obsolete.

[Sire Reap-A-Lot]

Normally I would agree, but this is at an absurd level, where even RTX 3080 is "obsolete" by this measure. I don't spend 1000 bucks to play at medium within 12 months of time.

[Kizuna Dragon]

Originally posted by Sire Reap-A-Lot:

Normally I would agree, but this is at an absurd level, where even RTX 3080 is "obsolete" by this measure. I don't spend 1000 bucks to play at medium within 12 months of time.

I completely agree. I have a 3080 10GB and im really angry that i get a VRAM bottleneck with it. I spent $1000 on it not even 2 years ago.

thing is who do we blame? Nvidia for putting 10GB on the card, or the new round of video games that are eating that 10GB and asking for more.

hogwart's does it, Dead Space does it, Wild Hearts does it...

[dercooletyp]

Originally posted by Dragon Gaming:

If you play the game and the framerate is fine and smooth, only to turn a corner and suddenly you have 7 FPS. Thats a Vram bottleneck, your graphics card doesn't have enough VRAM on it for Hogwarts to run smoothly at the settings you're using.

solution:
buy a new video card with more VRAM. No one wants to hear this but it's the only way to 100% get rid of that bottleneck as you cannot just upgrade your Vram.


mitigations:
Turn down your settings, play on high or medium and use DLSS is your card can support it. This will decrease the need for more VRAM and hopefully let you play smoothly.


Hogwart's Legacy is a RAM eater, both VRAM and system ram and unfortunately it's making a lot of video cards with less than 12 GB VRAM obsolete.

i call bs as my 3090ti had those awkward drops as well. no fix helped except the switch to vulkan. its the games poooooor optimization.

[Operation40]

afaik, when it comes to VRAM, resolution matters more than anything else. trying to do 4k with 8GB is probably not recommended.

1440p has been fine with 8GB (for me)

[Supgad]

I'd argue it's a VRAM utilisation issue, frankly. This game shouldn't be chewing through this much VRAM, RAM, and cache the way it is, even on the latest hardware.

[Kizuna Dragon]

Originally posted by Operation40:

afaik, when it comes to VRAM, resolution matters more than anything else. trying to do 4k with 8GB is probably not recommended.

1440p has been fine with 8GB

1440P on ultra takes about 11.5GB of VRAM so no 8GB card is not fine.

[Operation40]

tbf I've been running 1440p high preset, not ultra.

how are you guys determining VRAM usage? afaik, you can only see "allocated". and a lot of games just allocate the max available regardless if they actually use it or not.

[Unrighteous]

I have 8 GB of VRAM and upgrading my regular RAM from 16 GB to 32 GB solved all of my performance issues. I used to have 2 minute load times and regular stuttering, but now my load times are 7-10 seconds and I have a constant 60 FPS at 1080p all high settings.

Your bottleneck is not necessarily VRAM. Yes, 8 GB is on the low end, but major performance issues could be something else entirely.

[Kizuna Dragon]

Originally posted by Unrighteous:

I have 8 GB of VRAM and upgrading my regular RAM from 16 GB to 32 GB solved all of my performance issues. I used to have 2 minute load times and regular stuttering, but now my load times are 7-10 seconds and I have a constant 60 FPS at 1080p all high settings.

Your bottleneck is not necessarily VRAM. Yes, 8 GB is on the low end, but major performance issues could be something else entirely.

the way the system works, if you run out of VRAM then it will call on system ram to make up the gap, problem is system ram is usually much slower than VRAM. So you can sort of brute force solve the problem by having a ton of excess system ram, but its not a garuentee or efficient solution.

[TimmyP]

This is not vram AMOUNT. For the billionth time: THIS IS VRAM MISMANAGEMENT.

Do you people truly believe that a 4000 series is required for RTX Ultra? Do you think that an 8gb 3070\2080 system cannot handle a ps5 that has an equivalent of a 2070s in terms of performance, and 16gb SHARED memory between vram and ram?

This is solely on the developers, because it is solely a resource management issue that I dont believe they have the experience to solve, or Nvidia has a hand in this to push more 4000 series cards.

For the millionth billionth time, with 2 ini edits that I got lucky with which fixed my 5ps issues entirely on a 3070\5800x3D\32gb system, I can now play 1440p, Ultra\Ultra RTX DLSSb\p(for 120 fps) the lowest fps I see is in one area of Hogwarts at 48fps, my range is 48-120fps AND I am using an ini mod FOR BETTER RT and RTAO, that makes the game look incredible.

All one is doing, by telling them they need more vram or more ram (this game runs fine on 8gb, just hits the lows bad), is advising a band aid fix for a broken game.

There is nothing wrong with this game except resource management.

[Unrighteous]

Originally posted by Dragon Gaming:

the way the system works, if you run out of VRAM then it will call on system ram to make up the gap, problem is system ram is usually much slower than VRAM. So you can sort of brute force solve the problem by having a ton of excess system ram, but its not a garuentee or efficient solution.

I'm no computer wiz, but from what I understand, everything you're saying is absolutely true. However, upgrading a video card is a lot more expensive than RAM. I got 32 GB for $100 CAD. Upgrading to a card with 16 GB of VRAM will run me at least $500, and that'll be a weaker card than my 3070.

[Kizuna Dragon]

Originally posted by TimmyP:

This is not vram AMOUNT. For the billionth time: THIS IS VRAM MISMANAGEMENT.

Do you people truly believe that a 4000 series is required for RTX Ultra? Do you think that an 8gb 3070\2080 system cannot handle a ps5 that has an equivalent of a 2070s in terms of performance, and 16gb SHARED memory between vram and ram?

This is solely on the developers, because it is solely a resource management issue that I dont believe they have the experience to solve, or Nvidia has a hand in this to push more 4000 series cards.

For the millionth billionth time, with 2 ini edits that I got lucky with which fixed my 5ps issues entirely on a 3070\5800x3D\32gb system, I can now play 1440p, Ultra\Ultra RTX DLSSb\p(for 120 fps) the lowest fps I see is in one area of Hogwarts at 48fps, my range is 48-120fps AND I am using an ini mod FOR BETTER RT and RTAO, that makes the game look incredible.

All one is doing, by telling them they need more vram or more ram (this game runs fine on 8gb, just hits the lows bad), is advising a band aid fix for a broken game.

There is nothing wrong with this game except resource management.

and I agree. It's a problem with Unreal engine 4, sad thing is i don't think we are going to see a patch/official fix for this, so the only real solution right now is upgrade your video card. I know with the state of GPU pricing the last thing someone wants to do is buy a new card, but it's the only true fix right now.

[Sire Reap-A-Lot]

Originally posted by TimmyP:

with 2 ini edits that I got lucky with which fixed my 5ps issues entirely on a 3070\5800x3D\32gb system, I can now play 1440p, Ultra\Ultra RTX DLSSb\p(for 120 fps

Mind sharing?

[rservello]

Originally posted by Dragon Gaming:

If you play the game and the framerate is fine and smooth, only to turn a corner and suddenly you have 7 FPS. Thats a Vram bottleneck, your graphics card doesn't have enough VRAM on it for Hogwarts to run smoothly at the settings you're using.

solution:
buy a new video card with more VRAM. No one wants to hear this but it's the only way to 100% get rid of that bottleneck as you cannot just upgrade your Vram.


mitigations:
Turn down your settings, play on high or medium and use DLSS is your card can support it. This will decrease the need for more VRAM and hopefully let you play smoothly.


Hogwart's Legacy is a RAM eater, both VRAM and system ram and unfortunately it's making a lot of video cards with less than 12 GB VRAM obsolete.

Doubt it. I have 24GB and it stutters if I turn on any form of raytracing (with DLSS)

[Kizuna Dragon]

Originally posted by rservello:

Originally posted by Dragon Gaming:

If you play the game and the framerate is fine and smooth, only to turn a corner and suddenly you have 7 FPS. Thats a Vram bottleneck, your graphics card doesn't have enough VRAM on it for Hogwarts to run smoothly at the settings you're using.

solution:
buy a new video card with more VRAM. No one wants to hear this but it's the only way to 100% get rid of that bottleneck as you cannot just upgrade your Vram.


mitigations:
Turn down your settings, play on high or medium and use DLSS is your card can support it. This will decrease the need for more VRAM and hopefully let you play smoothly.


Hogwart's Legacy is a RAM eater, both VRAM and system ram and unfortunately it's making a lot of video cards with less than 12 GB VRAM obsolete.

Doubt it. I have 24GB and it stutters if I turn on any form of raytracing (with DLSS)

im not talking about stuttering. im talking about when the game drops to 7FPS and stays there suddenly and for apparently no reason.