If avada kedavra one shots anything

[侍Kage]

Then why nobody just spam the sht out of it, especially criminals. They can literally one shot anyone and get away with it, how do they get jailed in azkaban?

I'm not into HP universe, I watched only once years ago. I'm planning to watch again, but yeah everyone and their mothers know this spell. Why use other spells when you have avada kedavra?

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by Zarok:

Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:

From what we are shown, they aren't really keen on killing people in general, let alone the way muggles do or even with normal spells. The thing about normal spells is there are so many ways to defend against that. Bones can be mended and wounds can be mended with juices, potions, herbs, spells. You can be fire proof, but even if you're not, you can summon water from your wand.
There really isn't a reason to kill. The only ones who do so do it because they are seeking some grand design, some master plan to take over the world.
If you really really want to kill though, then that hatred is how you are able to cast Avadakadavra and there isn't any need to duke it out with normal spells at that point.

I mean the Aurors were allowe to do it in the first Wizarding War. So there seems to be some circumstances they consider it okay and then the Aurors using it must have really wanted to kill the death eaters.

This is the same as a cop having a gun. You shouldn't use it or have to use it, but in some rare cases (or what should be rare) you might have to.
and yea, they would want the death eaters dead, because they are trying to protect people from them.

[vORTEX]

they mentioned this in the movies
lore wise: you need to truly hate who your casting it on. so if you use it on some random that you have never met, you wont feel anything about them, so the spell wont do anything

game play wise: its overpowered and ruins any challenge. thats why it has the cool down, which i think should be increased and put a cool down on all combat/forbidden spells to highlight the significance of using that spell

[Zarok]

Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:

Originally posted by Zarok:

I mean the Aurors were allowe to do it in the first Wizarding War. So there seems to be some circumstances they consider it okay and then the Aurors using it must have really wanted to kill the death eaters.

This is the same as a cop having a gun. You shouldn't use it or have to use it, but in some rare cases (or what should be rare) you might have to.
and yea, they would want the death eaters dead, because they are trying to protect people from them.

I mean wouldn't you be able to use it in most scenarios by this? I mean someone trying to kill you is a good motivation to want them dead. If for self preservation if anything. Plus the fact that if you don't stop them they'll likely harm others.

[Zarok]

Originally posted by vORTEX:

they mentioned this in the movies
lore wise: you need to truly hate who your casting it on. so if you use it on some random that you have never met, you wont feel anything about them, so the spell wont do anything

game play wise: its overpowered and ruins any challenge. thats why it has the cool down, which i think should be increased and put a cool down on all combat/forbidden spells to highlight the significance of using that spell

If you have to truly hate someone then it raises questions on how Snape used it on Dumbledore. If anything he didn't want to do it.

[vORTEX]

Originally posted by Zarok:

Originally posted by vORTEX:

they mentioned this in the movies
lore wise: you need to truly hate who your casting it on. so if you use it on some random that you have never met, you wont feel anything about them, so the spell wont do anything

game play wise: its overpowered and ruins any challenge. thats why it has the cool down, which i think should be increased and put a cool down on all combat/forbidden spells to highlight the significance of using that spell

If you have to truly hate someone then it raises questions on how Snape used it on Dumbledore. If anything he didn't want to do it.

heard a few theory on that a while back. the main consensus is it did not kill him but the fall did

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by Zarok:

Originally posted by vORTEX:

they mentioned this in the movies
lore wise: you need to truly hate who your casting it on. so if you use it on some random that you have never met, you wont feel anything about them, so the spell wont do anything

game play wise: its overpowered and ruins any challenge. thats why it has the cool down, which i think should be increased and put a cool down on all combat/forbidden spells to highlight the significance of using that spell

If you have to truly hate someone then it raises questions on how Snape used it on Dumbledore. If anything he didn't want to do it.

Snape did have some animosity toward Dumbledore, which is more obvious in the books. However, there was also the fact that he had to kill Dumbedore because he made an unbreakable vow to help Malfoy

[You Touched My Tralala]

who mentioned hate is requirement for AK in the first place lol I don't think it's true. Yes you'd have to want person dead, the intention should be clear as day his death is your want. But hate? Can you even feel emotion so strong towards every single person you got in fight with?

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by Zarok:

Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:

This is the same as a cop having a gun. You shouldn't use it or have to use it, but in some rare cases (or what should be rare) you might have to.
and yea, they would want the death eaters dead, because they are trying to protect people from them.

I mean wouldn't you be able to use it in most scenarios by this? I mean someone trying to kill you is a good motivation to want them dead. If for self preservation if anything. Plus the fact that if you don't stop them they'll likely harm others.

Why would you need to use it in most scenarios?
Most wizards don't want to kill. Killing overall is pretty rare.
There's also many ways to immobilize a target. Plus, putting someone in Azkaban has been described as a fate worse than death. The criminals there begged for death.
However, in this near utopian society the wizards have, there isn't a lot of criminals in general.

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by You Touched My Tralala:

who mentioned hate is requirement for AK in the first place lol I don't think it's true

Because the direct counter to AK is love

[You Touched My Tralala]

nah I think y'll stopped making sense at all

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by You Touched My Tralala:

nah I think y'll stopped making sense at all

Most of this thread is questions from people who only watched the movies.
I cannot begin to explain just how much detail was cut from the books to make them movies.

Even the movies though, explain that Harry was the only one who has countered Avadakadavra because of the protection of love, which required Lilly's sacrifice.

Seriously, go read the books.

[Zarok]

Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:

Originally posted by You Touched My Tralala:

nah I think y'll stopped making sense at all

Most of this thread is questions from people who only watched the movies.
I cannot begin to explain just how much detail was cut from the books to make them movies.

Even the movies though, explain that Harry was the only one who has countered Avadakadavra because of the protection of love, which required Lilly's sacrifice.

Seriously, go read the books.

This goes back on to my argument from earlier of why don't the Death Eaters and Voldemort just go right to the killing curse right away to win every fight? That doesn't make sense to me.

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by Zarok:

Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:

Most of this thread is questions from people who only watched the movies.
I cannot begin to explain just how much detail was cut from the books to make them movies.

Even the movies though, explain that Harry was the only one who has countered Avadakadavra because of the protection of love, which required Lilly's sacrifice.

Seriously, go read the books.

This goes back on to my argument from earlier of why don't the Death Eaters and Voldemort just go right to the killing curse right away to win every fight? That doesn't make sense to me.

They do.

[Zarok]

Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:

Originally posted by Zarok:

This goes back on to my argument from earlier of why don't the Death Eaters and Voldemort just go right to the killing curse right away to win every fight? That doesn't make sense to me.

They do.

Then shouldn't a lot more people have died then? Also how do they defeat someone with an unblockable curse that instant kills them?

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by Zarok:

Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:

They do.

Then shouldn't a lot more people have died then? Also how do they defeat someone with an unblockable curse that instant kills them?

A lot of people did die.
You can dodge the curse though, you can also hide behind stuff. They still have to aim it at you.