Rant about AI fanart

[k3nny]

Aight; so I felt motivated to draw something up, and pop it into the artwork section.

Before adding my stuff, I scrolled through the contributions, and realized this: 90-95% of artworks (not memes, not screenshots, but drawings and paintings) are AI generated. Looks great from the thumbnail, then you open it and notice the small visual artefacts that (still) give AI art away.

Am I just stupid, or is that absolutely tragic? I'd much rather see janky, crooked scribbles that people actually made, instead of these soulless commissions that people generate through text prompts. If I'd wanted to see what the AI can come up with, I'd open one of the many AI art tools and throw in my own prompts. Who the frick cares what AI is drawing?

What this flood of AI achieves is to make it almost impossible for people who are actually masterful to properly stand out and get the recognition they deserve, and it demotivates up-and-coming people from uploading anything, because nobody wants to do the one janky sketch in an art gallery of masterpieces.

I know that it just is what it is, that it cannot be helped, but I'm just curious what y'all are thinking about this.

[FluffyPotato]

Funny thing is that if no human will upload new art that will also mean there will be no new AI art. AI art is just rehashes and restructuring of existing stuff as AI can only make things similar to stuff that already exist.

[Viceroy Günther von Lichler]

AI is the future and artists are on their way out.

[Patricia Hapon]

Yeah the game already have enough issues as it is, we don't really need them to add AI art !

[Lust]

Originally posted by Lord Scrote:

AI is the future and artists are on their way out.

lmao

[k3nny]

Originally posted by Lord Scrote:

AI is the future and artists are on their way out.

Maybe. But who the frick wants to look at frigging AI fanart? Who is this for? It impresses nobody, it inspires nobody, it doesn't tell us anything about how people engage with the Harry Potter universe. It's just spam, pretty, worthless spam, that pushes out and obfuscates genuine contributions.

[Viceroy Günther von Lichler]

Originally posted by Lust ❤:

Originally posted by Lord Scrote:

AI is the future and artists are on their way out.

:cindersskull: lmao

Its just a absolute fact. Already game developers for instance are sacking concept artists in favor of AI and using some intern with the barest minimum of Photoshop knowledge to fix up the jank.
And thats with the tech in its infancy still, hope you dont have a art degree, lol.

[Viceroy Günther von Lichler]

Originally posted by k3nny:

Originally posted by Lord Scrote:

AI is the future and artists are on their way out.

Maybe. But who the frick wants to look at frigging AI fanart? Who is this for? It impresses nobody, it inspires nobody, it doesn't tell us anything about how people engage with the Harry Potter universe. It's just spam, pretty, worthless spam, that pushes out and obfuscates genuine contributions.

There is zero difference between a AI drawing and 99.999% of human artists. They are both creating art that is a combination of what other people have already done.
Literal super celebrity tier artists will still have work since they sell their art because of their name, everyone else is done.

[k3nny]

Originally posted by Lord Scrote:

Originally posted by k3nny:

Maybe. But who the frick wants to look at frigging AI fanart? Who is this for? It impresses nobody, it inspires nobody, it doesn't tell us anything about how people engage with the Harry Potter universe. It's just spam, pretty, worthless spam, that pushes out and obfuscates genuine contributions.

There is zero difference between a AI drawing and 99.999% of human artists. They are both creating art that is a combination of what other people have already done.
Literal super celebrity tier artists will still have work since they sell their art because of their name, everyone else is done.

That's an extremely reductive way of looking at how humans create art. It's not a mathematical process; obviously people are influenced by existing work, but it's not a mindless mashing together of inputs. There's an infinite number of personal factors that go into how people paint and draw that AI has no access to.

And, visual artefacts aside, the difference is exactly that one is AI and one is people. High quality artistic contributions are impressive in part because of the thousands and thousands of hours of training and the immense discipline it takes to be able to make them.

Not to mention that the only reason AI can "create" (and I'm using that word very liberally here) art is that the models have been trained on stolen copyrighted artwork. AI art can look fancy because it re-mashes the contributions of people who have dedicated their life to make interesting visual art. But it doesn't actually contribute anything. There is a reason you can't improve AI art by training it on AI art. AI art is entirely parasitic.

[roymaster45]

Originally posted by Lord Scrote:

Originally posted by k3nny:

Maybe. But who the frick wants to look at frigging AI fanart? Who is this for? It impresses nobody, it inspires nobody, it doesn't tell us anything about how people engage with the Harry Potter universe. It's just spam, pretty, worthless spam, that pushes out and obfuscates genuine contributions.

There is zero difference between a AI drawing and 99.999% of human artists. They are both creating art that is a combination of what other people have already done.
Literal super celebrity tier artists will still have work since they sell their art because of their name, everyone else is done.

As somebody who spends a lot of time hanging out with communities of small-time/amateur artists, I don't really anticipate this happening. Most of their fans are still perfectly happy supporting them through Patreon, commissions, etc.

The only site where I've seen AI art really start to saturate the space is DeviantArt, and... well, their policies have already been a dumpster fire for years now.

[EuerDickerFreund]

Originally posted by k3nny:

Aight; so I felt motivated to draw something up, and pop it into the artwork section.

Before adding my stuff, I scrolled through the contributions, and realized this: 90-95% of artworks (not memes, not screenshots, but drawings and paintings) are AI generated. Looks great from the thumbnail, then you open it and notice the small visual artefacts that (still) give AI art away.

Am I just stupid, or is that absolutely tragic? I'd much rather see janky, crooked scribbles that people actually made, instead of these soulless commissions that people generate through text prompts. If I'd wanted to see what the AI can come up with, I'd open one of the many AI art tools and throw in my own prompts. Who the frick cares what AI is drawing?

What this flood of AI achieves is to make it almost impossible for people who are actually masterful to properly stand out and get the recognition they deserve, and it demotivates up-and-coming people from uploading anything, because nobody wants to do the one janky sketch in an art gallery of masterpieces.

I know that it just is what it is, that it cannot be helped, but I'm just curious what y'all are thinking about this.

stop crying. its the same for years/decades for artists in any genre (art, music, etc.). and AI is not the biggest problem - the biggest problem are the masses of people who can do everything easily with a laptop and upload it. back then you need to own expensive hardware and a label/distribution. its just how it works now - accept it. AND BTW: your attitude is the worst...do art, music, etc. for your own happiness in the first place. Dont expect to get famous or money. these days are long ago ;-)

[leqesai]

Originally posted by EuerDickerFreund:

Originally posted by k3nny:

Aight; so I felt motivated to draw something up, and pop it into the artwork section.

Before adding my stuff, I scrolled through the contributions, and realized this: 90-95% of artworks (not memes, not screenshots, but drawings and paintings) are AI generated. Looks great from the thumbnail, then you open it and notice the small visual artefacts that (still) give AI art away.

Am I just stupid, or is that absolutely tragic? I'd much rather see janky, crooked scribbles that people actually made, instead of these soulless commissions that people generate through text prompts. If I'd wanted to see what the AI can come up with, I'd open one of the many AI art tools and throw in my own prompts. Who the frick cares what AI is drawing?

What this flood of AI achieves is to make it almost impossible for people who are actually masterful to properly stand out and get the recognition they deserve, and it demotivates up-and-coming people from uploading anything, because nobody wants to do the one janky sketch in an art gallery of masterpieces.

I know that it just is what it is, that it cannot be helped, but I'm just curious what y'all are thinking about this.

stop crying. its the same for years/decades for artists in any genre (art, music, etc.). and AI is not the biggest problem - the biggest problem are the masses of people who can do everything easily with a laptop and upload it. back then you need to own expensive hardware and a label/distribution. its just how it works now - accept it. AND BTW: your attitude is the worst...do art, music, etc. for your own happiness in the first place. Dont expect to get famous or money. these days are long ago ;-)

Spittin' some truth here.

[Kritter]

I'd much rather look at the incredible stuff a competent user of AI art generation tech can do than the same old tired unimaginative dross humans churn out and call fan art.

[k3nny]

Originally posted by EuerDickerFreund:

Originally posted by k3nny:

Aight; so I felt motivated to draw something up, and pop it into the artwork section.

Before adding my stuff, I scrolled through the contributions, and realized this: 90-95% of artworks (not memes, not screenshots, but drawings and paintings) are AI generated. Looks great from the thumbnail, then you open it and notice the small visual artefacts that (still) give AI art away.

Am I just stupid, or is that absolutely tragic? I'd much rather see janky, crooked scribbles that people actually made, instead of these soulless commissions that people generate through text prompts. If I'd wanted to see what the AI can come up with, I'd open one of the many AI art tools and throw in my own prompts. Who the frick cares what AI is drawing?

What this flood of AI achieves is to make it almost impossible for people who are actually masterful to properly stand out and get the recognition they deserve, and it demotivates up-and-coming people from uploading anything, because nobody wants to do the one janky sketch in an art gallery of masterpieces.

I know that it just is what it is, that it cannot be helped, but I'm just curious what y'all are thinking about this.

stop crying. its the same for years/decades for artists in any genre (art, music, etc.). and AI is not the biggest problem - the biggest problem are the masses of people who can do everything easily with a laptop and upload it. back then you need to own expensive hardware and a label/distribution. its just how it works now - accept it. AND BTW: your attitude is the worst...do art, music, etc. for your own happiness in the first place. Dont expect to get famous or money. these days are long ago ;-)

There is nothing wrong with the means of creative work being more accessible to more people. All that does is to remove roadblocks for talented people to come forward. That's entirely different from AI mass production without any meaningful human input (and lets not pretend that "prompts" are a creative achievement.)

The second point you make is pretty absurd for ten different reasons, and I really don't feel like typing all of them up, no offense.

[Eric]

Originally posted by Lord Scrote:

AI is the future and artists are on their way out.

Thats incredibly naive and just shows that youre pretty far removed from the issue.

[두부♥예나]

AI Art is the newest fad of the useless get-rich crypto bros. And all the companies turning to AI art as a legitimate marketing/visual production form, are killing their chickens before they've even started laying eggs.

Like NFTs, it'll die out except in fringe communities.

Unless AI attains a state of consciousness - it will never have the requisite imagination.