Hogwarts Legacy

Hogwarts Legacy

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FreshRevenge Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:23pm
Why are you a 5th year? Spoilers
The game doesn't really explain why you are a fifth year. The advertisements just say you have this special talent of seeing ancient magic.

Yet when we start the game with Mr Fig preparing to take you to Hogwart doesn't even know. I mean it is evident that he doesn't know your character can see ancient magic until Gringotts or the way there. None of the faculty seem to acknowledge that you have the ability as well.

Now I know later in the game you find the key of admittance which shows a magic book that records every person that is capable of magic.

Am I missing something because the game is unclear on it. I mean I know they staff prepare special assignments but none of them talk to you about your ability.
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ghxost Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:24pm 
because that is the grade for the age... lol
WeissRook Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:26pm 
The game absolutely explains it. It's because your magic doesn't show until later in life due to the special trait you have. You see that in the pattern of those that can see ancient magic. They all ended up at Hogwarts at the age of a 5th year, and also ended up being exceptionally gifted with magic. I don't know if Rackham was muggle-born, but it seems your character and the other they show obviously are.
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FreshRevenge Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:27pm 
Originally posted by ghxost:
because that is the grade for the age... lol

If you had the ability for magic you would have been notified when you were younger. It is said that children that start at Hogwarts their first year are about 11 years old.
FreshRevenge Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:29pm 
Originally posted by WeissRook:
The game absolutely explains it. It's because your magic doesn't show until later in life due to the special trait you have. You see that in the pattern of those that can see ancient magic. They all ended up at Hogwarts at the age of a 5th year, and also ended up being exceptionally gifted with magic.

Well if this is true than why doesn't any of the faculty or Mr Fig know about this. I mean they must have know about Ancient magic unless they dismissed as a myth.
WeissRook Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:40pm 
Originally posted by FreshRevenge:
Originally posted by WeissRook:
The game absolutely explains it. It's because your magic doesn't show until later in life due to the special trait you have. You see that in the pattern of those that can see ancient magic. They all ended up at Hogwarts at the age of a 5th year, and also ended up being exceptionally gifted with magic.

Well if this is true than why doesn't any of the faculty or Mr Fig know about this. I mean they must have know about Ancient magic unless they dismissed as a myth.
Again, a part of the storyline, anything about it was purposely hidden. No one had the ability to see, much less use, the magic in a long time, and all the records seem to have been hidden by the Keepers in order to keep the knowledge of that power from getting out except to those they deemed worthy. I haven't gotten to any point that shows how the goblins found out about it, though I assume though Rookwood family records of some sort.
If you get to the point where you finish the first trial, a lot of this can be inferred if it's not outright told to you.
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annedoe Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:42pm 
I'm assuming most of wizardkind regarded "Ancient Magic" as a myth- only Miram (and then later George and then Mr..Figg) didn't. As others said we're a late bloomer of magic-that's why we didn't get an owl around our 11th birthday.
annedoe Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:43pm 
Originally posted by WeissRook:
Originally posted by FreshRevenge:

Well if this is true than why doesn't any of the faculty or Mr Fig know about this. I mean they must have know about Ancient magic unless they dismissed as a myth.
Again, a part of the storyline, anything about it was purposely hidden. No one had the ability to see, much less use, the magic in a long time, and all the records seem to have been hidden by the Keepers in order to keep the knowledge of that power from getting out except to those they deemed worthy. I haven't gotten to any point that shows how the goblins found out about it, though I assume though Rookwood family records of some sort.


He has Bragbah or some name like that journals
WeissRook Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by annedoe:
I'm assuming most of wizardkind regarded "Ancient Magic" as a myth- only Miram (and then later George and then Mr..Figg) didn't. As others said we're a late bloomer of magic-that's why we didn't get an owl around our 11th birthday.
After replaying the intro video, none of them were really aware of it. It all started with Fig's wife sending George something she stole from the goblins to stop them from having it, which your character coincidentally saw the ancient magic on. Miriam was investigating the goblins.
FreshRevenge Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by WeissRook:
Originally posted by FreshRevenge:

Well if this is true than why doesn't any of the faculty or Mr Fig know about this. I mean they must have know about Ancient magic unless they dismissed as a myth.
Again, a part of the storyline, anything about it was purposely hidden. No one had the ability to see, much less use, the magic in a long time, and all the records seem to have been hidden by the Keepers in order to keep the knowledge of that power from getting out except to those they deemed worthy. I haven't gotten to any point that shows how the goblins found out about it, though I assume though Rookwood family records of some sort.

I just kind of wished the game dived more into our character's past or history a bit more.

Wasn't one of the keepers related to Rookwood?
annedoe Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by WeissRook:
Originally posted by annedoe:
I'm assuming most of wizardkind regarded "Ancient Magic" as a myth- only Miram (and then later George and then Mr..Figg) didn't. As others said we're a late bloomer of magic-that's why we didn't get an owl around our 11th birthday.
After replaying the intro video, none of them were really aware of it. It all started with Fig's wife sending George something she stole from the goblins to stop them from having it, which your character coincidentally saw the ancient magic on. Miriam was investigating the goblins.

Nope the game makes it quiet clear she was researching ancient magic-the goblins didn't have anything to do with it-until Lodok showed up at Rookwood castle and Miram was already there.
WeissRook Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:50pm 
Originally posted by annedoe:
Originally posted by WeissRook:
After replaying the intro video, none of them were really aware of it. It all started with Fig's wife sending George something she stole from the goblins to stop them from having it, which your character coincidentally saw the ancient magic on. Miriam was investigating the goblins.

Nope the game makes it quiet clear she was researching ancient magic-the goblins didn't have anything to do with it-until Lodok showed up at Rookwood castle and Miram was already there.
Still kinda fits in. So it's more that she was researching the existence of it, and then the goblins showed up and had the locked canister, which she stole, died, and then no one really knew. Fig would know what she was studying, but since it was basically a myth by that point, I'm assuming it was all just circumstantial evidence to anyone (other than to the goblins and Rookwood) until your character saw the magic and opened the container.
annedoe Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:51pm 
Originally posted by FreshRevenge:
Originally posted by WeissRook:
Again, a part of the storyline, anything about it was purposely hidden. No one had the ability to see, much less use, the magic in a long time, and all the records seem to have been hidden by the Keepers in order to keep the knowledge of that power from getting out except to those they deemed worthy. I haven't gotten to any point that shows how the goblins found out about it, though I assume though Rookwood family records of some sort.

I just kind of wished the game dived more into our character's past or history a bit more.

Wasn't one of the keepers related to Rookwood?

Yes one of the keepers was related to Rookwood. But I think it would caused a lot of complcations storywise and otherwise if we're related to any of the Keepers- Like only Rookwood and Rackham are White. Professor Bakar is either Indian or from Pakaistian area. I'm not sure about FitzGerald. What I can tell you is one of her ancestors might have been an illegemiete son of a nobility because of her last name.

Like if you play white you could be related to either Rackham or Rookwood-but if you're the later wouldn't you kind of also be fighting your very distant cousin Victor Rookwood? And if you play as a black/indian/etc you could be descendaned from Bakar. Not sure how to fit Nimah Fitzgerald in there.
annedoe Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:52pm 
Originally posted by WeissRook:
Originally posted by annedoe:

Nope the game makes it quiet clear she was researching ancient magic-the goblins didn't have anything to do with it-until Lodok showed up at Rookwood castle and Miram was already there.
Still kinda fits in. So it's more that she was researching the existence of it, and then the goblins showed up and had the locked canister, which she stole, died, and then no one really knew. Fig would know what she was studying, but since it was basically a myth by that point, I'm assuming it was all just circumstantial evidence to anyone (other than to the goblins and Rookwood) until your character saw the magic and opened the container.


Actually Lodok was the first goblin there and Miram already *had* the container by that point.
WeissRook Feb 17, 2023 @ 10:04pm 
Originally posted by annedoe:
Originally posted by WeissRook:
Still kinda fits in. So it's more that she was researching the existence of it, and then the goblins showed up and had the locked canister, which she stole, died, and then no one really knew. Fig would know what she was studying, but since it was basically a myth by that point, I'm assuming it was all just circumstantial evidence to anyone (other than to the goblins and Rookwood) until your character saw the magic and opened the container.


Actually Lodok was the first goblin there and Miram already *had* the container by that point.
Must find that out later then. In the intro, it was stated she sent it to George likely in order to keep it from the goblins, since she was looking into them at the time, but with no correspondence and she was dead before he could get any other explanation from her about it.
지미세요 Feb 17, 2023 @ 10:31pm 
You begin as a fifth-year student, as your magical abilities begin to show. The fact that no one knew you could see traces of ancient magic is only because no one theoretically sees it, only the "chosen ones," and many of the wizards do not believe that such magic even exists.

Remember, too, that the whole process, preparation, looking for traces, etc. stays in the knowledge between you and the professor. No one but you knows, maybe a few students who don't really understand it at all. - If you tell them.

Hence the whole process that you have to make up 4 years of study at Hogwarts. You were accepted to Hogwarts because (so I think) it was the closest school you could attend.

Regarding the key, where you wrote that she had to get rid of it - no. In the continuation of the story, you will learn that she spoke with one of the goblins, who allowed her to do research when they came to rummage through the castle. There she found the key, too, and since she couldn't open it, she sent it to a mutual friend who was high up in the Ministry - because where else could this key be safe if not with him. She was later murdered because she wouldn't pass on any information, and Ranrok knew that they had to get to the number 12 locker, so he probably knew that whatever she found was the key to that locker. Hence, in the beginning he appears in the bank. - In addition, goblins also began to appear everywhere, so it's possible that she wanted to hide the key, but certainly not get rid of it - due to the fact that she was one of the people who believed that ancient magic exists.

The more you play and pay attention to what they say, the more you will learn and more things will become clear to you.

Likewise, the fact that ancient magic in the wrong hands is very dangerous, plus - Ranrok worked with one of the descendants of the Keepers, so he had a lot of information and was a step ahead of you.
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Date Posted: Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:23pm
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