Should you learn the dark art?

[superlloyd]

The game make it a conundrum.. but come on, I want to get all the cool spell! It would be hypocritical not to side with Sebastian!

Anyway, the game doesn't sell the evilness of them quite well, and we do want to help Anne! For science mm, I mean magic!

[LowIQ]

Originally posted by Raizo:

The open world dialogue is full of discrepancies. You'll also hear Ashwinders and Ranrok's gnomes talking about how they've "heard that you've dabbled in the dark arts" before you even get to the scene where you discover the first unforgivable curses. That means whatever they say in the midst of combat simply isn't consistent with what has actually happened during your time at Hogwarts.
They will claim that they've heard that you have dabbled in the dark arts as soon as the game lets you out in the open world before you've even had your first defense against the dark arts lesson.

You say that the enemies say things early and they do for sure but I think we'd all call that poor design as it is, but to say because of that we have to ignore how our character is talking about how he killed a room full of people and act like they didn't just kill them and the game isn't presenting it as we just killed them? That's a massive stretch. I mean there's not even one dialogue line about them changing their ways or going to prison, our character is definitely killing them all.

[アゼム]

Originally posted by Raizo:

Originally posted by TaquitoBurrito:

I mean that can easily be explained away by calling it rumormongering about your ancient magic abilities. They don't know what it is so they say it must be some secret forbidden art

Well, that would be exactly that. Explaining it away. However, the Ashwinders and Ranrok's followers know exactly what it is they are looking for, and they are aware of Ranrok's powers. So that wouldn't be it. They know that ancient magic isn't a dark art. The dark arts only include three spells, and that's it. They are very unlike ancient magic.

Dark arts only include 3 spells? You don't know much about HP then lol

[Thor]

Originally posted by LowIQ:

Originally posted by Raizo:

The open world dialogue is full of discrepancies. You'll also hear Ashwinders and Ranrok's gnomes talking about how they've "heard that you've dabbled in the dark arts" before you even get to the scene where you discover the first unforgivable curses. That means whatever they say in the midst of combat simply isn't consistent with what has actually happened during your time at Hogwarts.
They will claim that they've heard that you have dabbled in the dark arts as soon as the game lets you out in the open world before you've even had your first defense against the dark arts lesson.

You say that the enemies say things early and they do for sure but I think we'd all call that poor design as it is, but to say because of that we have to ignore how our character is talking about how he killed a room full of people and act like they didn't just kill them and the game isn't presenting it as we just killed them? That's a massive stretch. I mean there's not even one dialogue line about them changing their ways or going to prison, our character is definitely killing them all.

Yes, it is poor game design. And no, you don't kill people with basic casts, incendio, or any other non-dark spell. And in the books and movies, diffendo was used for tasks you'd normally use scissors for, like tailoring and removing bindings.
Spells like bombarda does not exist in the books. It seems it was made solely for the movies. Apparently, the movies needed more explosions.

Originally posted by TaquitoBurrito:

Originally posted by Raizo:

Well, that would be exactly that. Explaining it away. However, the Ashwinders and Ranrok's followers know exactly what it is they are looking for, and they are aware of Ranrok's powers. So that wouldn't be it. They know that ancient magic isn't a dark art. The dark arts only include three spells, and that's it. They are very unlike ancient magic.

Dark arts only include 3 spells? You don't know much about HP then lol

Yes, the dark arts only include three spells. And you don't get to decide what I know and don't know.
If you know any other dark arts spells, then go ahead and tell me their names.
I know that the dark arts also include dark potions and enchanted items, dark creatures, cursed books, and Horcruxes, but those are not spells.

[アゼム]

Originally posted by Raizo:

Yes, the dark arts only include three spells. And you don't get to decide what I know and don't know.
If you know any other dark arts spells, then go ahead and tell me their names.
I know that the dark arts also include dark potions and enchanted items, dark creatures, cursed books, and Horcruxes, but those are not spells.

Wow cringe. You clearly don't know and are trying to act like some authority figure. You think the unforgivable curses are the only dark arts spells which is 100% incorrect. Jinxes, hexes, and lesser curses are all considered dark arts. I know your knowledge is low here but you can literally look at the wiki to see you're wrong
https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_charm

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by LowIQ:

Personally I don't let a bunch of pure blood supremacists with a penchant for slavery dictate morals to me and I'd learn them whether I was trying to be good or evil. I reject the idea that you're morally better if you kill your attacker with an explosive blast to the face than giving them an instant death that lets their family have an open casket.

Same i feel if i want to understand my enemy i need to be able to use my enemies assets..

[Sharkon]

haven't learned curses at all. enough spells to fiddle with in my book already.

[Karumati]

Originally posted by Nokrahs:

haven't learned curses at all. enough spells to fiddle with in my book already.

Missing out on avada kedabra

[Fallen]

Originally posted by Raizo:

Originally posted by TaquitoBurrito:

I mean that can easily be explained away by calling it rumormongering about your ancient magic abilities. They don't know what it is so they say it must be some secret forbidden art

Well, that would be exactly that. Explaining it away. However, the Ashwinders and Ranrok's followers know exactly what it is they are looking for, and they are aware of Ranrok's powers. So that wouldn't be it. They know that ancient magic isn't a dark art. The dark arts only include three spells, and that's it. They are very unlike ancient magic.

... no the unforgivable curses only count as 3. dark arts is also necromancy and other things, which is literally in the game, and the fantastic beasts movies (big ass flaming dark dragons).

also yes.. you are killing them even with the basic spells and casts, not knocking them out. the only spell that knocks them out is the petrification one from sneaking. otherwise... why would they be using those spells on you as well if they cannot kill? some sort of weird game of magic laser tag?

[Thor]

Originally posted by TaquitoBurrito:

Originally posted by Raizo:

Yes, the dark arts only include three spells. And you don't get to decide what I know and don't know.
If you know any other dark arts spells, then go ahead and tell me their names.
I know that the dark arts also include dark potions and enchanted items, dark creatures, cursed books, and Horcruxes, but those are not spells.

Wow cringe. You clearly don't know and are trying to act like some authority figure. You think the unforgivable curses are the only dark arts spells which is 100% incorrect. Jinxes, hexes, and lesser curses are all considered dark arts. I know your knowledge is low here but you can literally look at the wiki to see you're wrong
https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_charm

Dark charms are not Dark arts. If they were, then prank spells like the Knee-reversal hex would be dark magic. This spell is commonly used by students on other students. I don't see them going to Azkaban.
Other dark charms include Petrificus Totalus, Confringo, and Flipendo.
Dark charms do not equate to Dark arts. However, the three unforgivable curses are also dark charms.

[アゼム]

Originally posted by Raizo:

Originally posted by TaquitoBurrito:

Wow cringe. You clearly don't know and are trying to act like some authority figure. You think the unforgivable curses are the only dark arts spells which is 100% incorrect. Jinxes, hexes, and lesser curses are all considered dark arts. I know your knowledge is low here but you can literally look at the wiki to see you're wrong
https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_charm

Dark charms are not Dark arts. If they were, then prank spells like the Knee-reversal hex would be dark magic. This spell is commonly used by students on other students. I don't see them going to Azkaban.
Other dark charms include Petrificus Totalus, Confringo, and Flipendo.
Dark charms do not equate to Dark arts. However, the three unforgivable curses are also dark charms.

Nice fanfiction?

[Lamiosa]

Originally posted by Nokrahs:

haven't learned curses at all. enough spells to fiddle with in my book already.

It depends on what combos you also plan. The big advantage of curses is also the share of damage between cursed enemies, so it is great against masses.

[Thor]

Originally posted by TaquitoBurrito:

Originally posted by Raizo:

Dark charms are not Dark arts. If they were, then prank spells like the Knee-reversal hex would be dark magic. This spell is commonly used by students on other students. I don't see them going to Azkaban.
Other dark charms include Petrificus Totalus, Confringo, and Flipendo.
Dark charms do not equate to Dark arts. However, the three unforgivable curses are also dark charms.

Nice fanfiction?

I suppose it is a nice fanfiction you have. Read the link you provided. Flipendo is the very first spell mentioned on your list. Flipendo is not some evil magic.