How was this overlooked? Settings/Delete Character

[daph]

Who's idea was it to make such a commonly used button such as settings the same as another that can completely ruin your experience if pressed at the wrong time? Reminder to all PC players you can completely disable this keybind.
Prime Example of what can go wrong if you aren't paying attention: https://clips.twitch.tv/AdventurousCrowdedBoarPanicBasket-qibGxqnmVa1jIkrf

[daph]

Originally posted by Johnnius:

Originally posted by sno0ks:

Ok bro whatever you say.

The funny thing is, that is exactly what old dos games and early Windows games had you do, you often had to type in your characters name as confirmation that you wanted to delete it.

destiny 2 you have to hold down the delete button for like 10 seconds then type "delete". it's not hard to implement such a thing.

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by daph:

Originally posted by Johnnius:

The funny thing is, that is exactly what old dos games and early Windows games had you do, you often had to type in your characters name as confirmation that you wanted to delete it.

destiny 2 you have to hold down the delete button for like 10 seconds then type "delete". it's not hard to implement such a thing.

It's not necessary to implement it either. It's necessary to pay attention to what you are doing. She went through a confirmation dialogue

Trust me, it is a better philosophy to go through life thinking you should avoid making mistakes rather than thinking that someone else should prevent you from making them.

It's called locus of control. If you think she's not at fault for deleting her character you are ascribing to the philosophy of external locus of control. Meaning she was "made to" delete her character by external forces

But we can clearly see that's not reality. She was talking and streaming and not paying attention. What if she had been using a knife while talking and streaming and not paying attention? Or driving a car?

The loss of internal locus of control philosophy is one of the great challenges facing younger people today, as nefarious forces in media try to tell everyone that everything isn't their problem and they're not responsible for anything about their situation.

[Johnnius]

Originally posted by Patrick Swayze's Ghost:

Originally posted by Johnnius:

The funny thing is, that is exactly what old dos games and early Windows games had you do, you often had to type in your characters name as confirmation that you wanted to delete it.

And then it was determined that that was pedantic and unnecessary for decades. You want to lean on everything else old DOS developers did? Should I have to use a code wheel too?

That's a great idea, I'll submit a request!

[rservello]

Originally posted by daph:

Originally posted by Johnnius:

The funny thing is, that is exactly what old dos games and early Windows games had you do, you often had to type in your characters name as confirmation that you wanted to delete it.

destiny 2 you have to hold down the delete button for like 10 seconds then type "delete". it's not hard to implement such a thing.

I mean, there is a dialogue asking if you really meant to do that and she clicked yes. So...

[Johnnius]

Originally posted by rservello:

Originally posted by Johnnius:

I have almost deleted my character several times because of this when testing out ini tweaks and loading the game, going into settings etc.

It wouldn't be such an issue if the position the pointer defaulted to was the centre of the screen, instead it hovers over your character as a default!

Odd, when mine starts it's always center and it's annoying that the profile is so far away from the default position. But good to know they did this.

That's odd, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a small bug dependant upon resolution etc.

Anyway, not a major annoyance, at least there is a confirmation dialogue box.

[Einstine]

Her and OP need to live life encased in bubblewrap.

[daph]

Originally posted by Patrick Swayze's Ghost:

Originally posted by daph:

destiny 2 you have to hold down the delete button for like 10 seconds then type "delete". it's not hard to implement such a thing.

It's not necessary to implement it either. It's necessary to pay attention to what you are doing. She went through a confirmation dialogue

Trust me, it is a better philosophy to go through life thinking you should avoid making mistakes rather than thinking that someone else should prevent you from making them.

It's called locus of control. If you think she's not at fault for deleting her character you are ascribing to the philosophy of external locus of control. Meaning she was "made to" delete her character by external forces

But we can clearly see that's not reality. She was talking and streaming and not paying attention. What if she had been using a knife while talking and streaming and not paying attention? Or driving a car?

The loss of internal locus of control philosophy is one of the great challenges facing younger people today, as nefarious forces in media try to tell everyone that everything isn't their problem and they're not responsible for anything about their situation.

it's not that deep. just make the keybinds different.

[Merque]

Originally posted by Patrick Swayze's Ghost:

Originally posted by sno0ks:

So much in this game is indicitive of it being the dev's first real game. So many little oversights.

There is no oversight. A delete confirmation dialogue appeared. She's streaming and paying no attention to what she's doing while blabbering.

What more do you want? To have to input a password to delete characters? Should the developer fly to you and hold your hand when you need to cross the street?

Every problem that someone has is not the result of some nefarious or ignorant force above their level. If you delete your character, through a confirmation prompt, it's YOUR PROBLEM and a mistake YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

Blaming the developer is emblematic of 21st century "I can never do any wrong" thinking

Here have my points.

Incredible to what extremes "it's not my responsibility"-mindsets go. Now they even stopped claiming responsibility for which button they press.

[Herethos]

Maybe have one hold down two buttons on the controller on the confirmations screen to delete a character. Or have it as an slower charge fill action when pressing the button down.

[pixelgoo]

At least it was only 7 hours into the game and not 30 lol.

[nirth]

Originally posted by daph:

Who's idea was it to make such a commonly used button such as settings the same as another that can completely ruin your experience if pressed at the wrong time? Reminder to all PC players you can completely disable this keybind.
Prime Example of what can go wrong if you aren't paying attention: https://clips.twitch.tv/AdventurousCrowdedBoarPanicBasket-qibGxqnmVa1jIkrf

I don't understand how this is a "PC issue" when they appear to be using a controller. What "commonly used button" are you trying to suggest is being used?

They selected the DELETE option and then used a different button to verify that they wanted to delete their character. That's 100% user error.

What more do you want? A third dialogue box with yet another button to click through?

If they were using a mouse and keyboard they'd have to right click to initiate the delete sequence.

[daph]

Originally posted by nirth:

Originally posted by daph:

Who's idea was it to make such a commonly used button such as settings the same as another that can completely ruin your experience if pressed at the wrong time? Reminder to all PC players you can completely disable this keybind.
Prime Example of what can go wrong if you aren't paying attention: https://clips.twitch.tv/AdventurousCrowdedBoarPanicBasket-qibGxqnmVa1jIkrf

I don't understand how this is a "PC issue" when they appear to be using a controller. What "commonly used button" are you trying to suggest is being used?

They selected the DELETE option and then used a different button to verify that they wanted to delete their character. That's 100% user error.

What more do you want? A third dialogue box with yet another button to click through?

If they were using a mouse and keyboard they'd have to right click to initiate the delete sequence.

It's not just a PC issue. But PC players have ability to remap binds.
Commonly used button being the settings button.

I agree it's her fault, but it shouldn't even be a possibility.

[daph]

Originally posted by Merque:

Originally posted by Patrick Swayze's Ghost:

There is no oversight. A delete confirmation dialogue appeared. She's streaming and paying no attention to what she's doing while blabbering.

What more do you want? To have to input a password to delete characters? Should the developer fly to you and hold your hand when you need to cross the street?

Every problem that someone has is not the result of some nefarious or ignorant force above their level. If you delete your character, through a confirmation prompt, it's YOUR PROBLEM and a mistake YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

Blaming the developer is emblematic of 21st century "I can never do any wrong" thinking

Here have my points.

Incredible to what extremes "it's not my responsibility"-mindsets go. Now they even stopped claiming responsibility for which button they press.

the point of the post is that there shouldn't be 2 default keybinds for the same button/key. especially when they have the potential to show on the screen at the same time.

[Switch]

I would chalk it down to an ID10T error

[Adam__86]

I won't lie I pmsl at that video. Streamers notoriously don't pay attention. No sympathy