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Your mental gymnastics are pretty hilarious and I don't get how you need this expained but ok. If you're casting a fireball on an ENEMY who is attacking you, then CLEARLY the point is for self defense. You're not actively thinking "hehe I enjoy making this enemy suffer!" in a real life scenario, but moreso thinking "this should neutralize my enemy who is ACTIVELY TRYING TO KILL ME!". Maybe you personally have some weird mentality that you enjoy the idea of your enemy suffering, but normal sane people don't share your thought process. Also I'm not defending the books that I've never read, I'm just laughing at the idea that some of you have no concept of multi-use tools vs a killing weapon.
It clearly DOES matter that the Axe is designed to cut down a tree because, again, it's a tool that was DESIGNED that way and you just happen to use it as a weapon at the time (I love how you automatically assume I'm speaking of the Axe weapon instead of the one designed for cutting trees, thereby proving my point, but if that's too much for you to handle we can change from Axe to a Hammer or literally any other tool that can also be used to kill).
LMAO what difference does it make if the gun is designed to kill people or animals? it's still DESIGNED TO KILL....DESIGNED...TO...KILL. At no point can you use a gun for any other function than ending a life. So no, a hunting rifle is NOT a tool and I don't know what kind of mental gymnastics you used to get to that conclusion lmao wtf?
can I? you seem to be all over the place with your logic lol (or maybe I'm reading it wrong, but your post there implies you would neutralize a target given the choice instead of killing) almost feels like you're just trying to win an argument instead of having an actual discussion.
And there is your answer.
they sure do, but at the end of the day that's just arguing semantics like OP was arguing about weapon Axe vs tool Axe. the point is that guns have only one purpose and one purpose only when they were created, and that's to kill. you can't use a gun for anything else. you can't light a fire place up, or hammer a nail in, or chop down a tree, or anything else useful other than a weapon used to kill. hell rubber bullets can still kill if you're not careful with them, but for the vast majority of the population who buy a gun the intent with it is to end a life (most likely a life that is trying to end your own, but still ending a life is most people's intent with a gun).
Not sure how you can fail at reading comprehensions so hard, but here we are. You successfully misrepresented almost everything I wrote and seem incredibly fixated on one definition of a specific tool while ignoring the purpose of other tools. Enjoy you ideologue life and stay classy I guess.
My favorite thing about your little temper tantrum is you address NOTHING about what I said at all. If you have a point then make it or shut up but acting like a child saying "you're wrong I won" proves my point that you just entered "girlfriend coming home" mode and just wanted to argue
One problem, though.
When recalled with Priori Incantatem and the Resurrection Stone, the souls of those killed with Avada Kedavra were no different, in terms of sentience and "wholeness", from, say, the ghosts of Hogwarts. Moreover, Sirius Black, who got killed indirectly, and definitely not with a Killing Curse, was the same as others.
So I'd say, if the killing curse does "target the soul", it doesn't damage the soul, but possibly severs the bond between soul and body.
It is to be seen, whether the Cruciatus Curse damages the soul, since there are no examples of people dying after being subjected to the Cruciatus Curse, who are later brought back as ghosts, shades, etc.
The reason for that is their unique trait of requiring intent to kill, torture, or enslave, respectively, for AK, crucio, and the imperius curse.
This is a legal term.
Let's for a moment pretend this is the real world, and that US law applies to the wizarding world. (It doesn't. But, let's pretend, because it gives a common practical reference.). If someone dies through someone else's actions, there's a murder trial, regardless if it's in self defence or not. Police doesn't go, 'ah, it was a burglar. Okay, he deserved to die anyway so there's no trial.'. There's ALWAYS a trial; movies get this wrong a lot. In this trial, motive and intent - usually so hard to prove in court - is automatically established if you use Adava Kadavra. Your intent was to kill. End of story. No 'self defence', no 'only wanted to warn him off'. That's the difference between involuntary manslaughter and first degree murder, in US law.
That difference is from 2-4 years, to life. (Which is death, in Azkaban).
Of course, if you use Bombarda and the jury is convinced you wanted to murder the guy, you're just as badly off. It's just not automatically proven.
In the UK, castle defence laws are not as strong as in certain US states. Odd, really, seeing as they have more castles. Still, that is how it is. You are not free to kill anyone who steps on your property.
In the end, it's bad because the plot says so, because were I part of the universe, I would rather get a killing curse to the face than being blown up by a lightning bolt or beaten against the ground until my brain gets out.
That demonstrate quite well how the "unforgivable" are actually just laws. Like, the ban was put on pause for aurors when things got otta hands. Unforgivable... More or less.
And yeah, you can use bombarda to destroy a rock that block a way (or a meteor that come and kill dinosaurs), you can use incendio for your fireplace, or dispose of junks.
Now, let's try AK a meteor or crucio the fireplace...
To be fair, I mentioned that if someone dies, there's a trial regardless. Same thing. Self defence is an argument you can use in that trial, not some sort of automatic absolution.
(Soudns like we agree, basically)
Avada Kedavra only works when used with the intention to murder someone, just saying the spell while being afraid for ones life (e.g. trying to fend off a monstrous spooder) wouldn't do the trick. It's a tool for murder, nothing else. Of course someone proficient in using it can use it at any time, but that's due to that person's general mindset.
Imperio is only usable when someone has every intent to dominate the will of another person or otherwise sentient being, it wouldn't work if used with the intention to help someone achieve, or make it through, something.
Also it has to be said that all 3 of those curses are only forbidden from use against another person, technically speaking you can use them in self-defense against beasts trying to disembowel you.
The game does a good job in regards to explaining how the protagonist ends up learning the 3 spells in their 5th year without turning them into an evil guy, but the game doesn't do a good job at handling the aftermath (by which I mean NPCs like Professor Fig not only begrudgingly tolerating the use of the 3 curses in their presence - which already would be a stretch - but instead just completely ignoring it)
Also it has to be said that the game generally doesn't really portrait Harry Potter combat very well, at no point in the books does anyone use Bombarda on a another person for example, and Incendio isn't a flame-thrower spell, neither is Confringo capable of blasting people like a gunshot or Expelliarmus itself inflicting any sort of physical damage.