When puzzles ARE NOT REALLY puzzles

[Blackened Halo]

Why Avalanche designed the puzzles in Hogwarts Legacy? Why they bothered with their design when the characters almost immediately tell you what to do? Nonsense.

I basically stopped playing this game due to this and not due to the awful performance. I just hate when a game treats me like an idiot. Basically, it´s insulting for me to play this game in this state.

[KiberKazax]

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[Old Man Gamer (OMG)]

This is my biggest issue with Hogwarts Legacy. The puzzles are indeed not puzzles. They are rudimentary steps to proceed. I am disappointed with this aspect, but everything else has been fantastic. While this is a problem, it does not detract from the overall enjoyable experience for me. It is just a missed opportunity to be something more.

[Supgad]

I did find it exasperating that puzzle solutions were almost immediately handed out. I downloaded a mod that does away with those hints entirely, and it's contributed greatly to my enjoyment of the game, especially since the puzzles aren't remotely challenging in the first place.

[CEPHY]

Fine by me, really.

I never liked puzzles in games to begin with so if the answer is just handed to me, I'll take it.

Like that one puzzle where you need pull some rocks out of the wall in a cave. Literaly just pulled random ones until it worked lol

[vaanomega]

Aside from Puzzle games, i've never encountered a real puzzle in games, even in Zelda games... so... i'm not surprised here

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by Old Man Gamer (OMG):

This is my biggest issue with Hogwarts Legacy. The puzzles are indeed not puzzles. They are rudimentary steps to proceed. I am disappointed with this aspect, but everything else has been fantastic. While this is a problem, it does not detract from the overall enjoyable experience for me. It is just a missed opportunity to be something more.

for me it detracts as I do not feel like a character in the game, but just an observer of what´s happening on the screen

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by Supgad:

I did find it exasperating that puzzle solutions were almost immediately handed out. I downloaded a mod that does away with those hints entirely, and it's contributed greatly to my enjoyment of the game, especially since the puzzles aren't remotely challenging in the first place.

this is it! the puzzles are not hard so that is why it is even more insulting

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by CEPHY:

Fine by me, really.

I never liked puzzles in games to begin with so if the answer is just handed to me, I'll take it.

Like that one puzzle where you need pull some rocks out of the wall in a cave. Literaly just pulled random ones until it worked lol

It is ok, but why dont make it optionable?

[Xerxez]

+1 I hate being treated like an idiot

[Lamiosa]

There are some puzzles which do not get told how to handle. The caves with the chess for example.

[Lonetac]

Originally posted by Lamiosa:

There are some puzzles which do not get told how to handle. The caves with the chess for example.

Henriettas cavern got me for a bit.

[Bob Gnarly]

It's pretty insulting to be honest.

The game doesn't even give you 5-10 seconds before it tells you how to solve the puzzle.

[Jeza]

Originally posted by CEPHY:

Fine by me, really.

I never liked puzzles in games to begin with so if the answer is just handed to me, I'll take it.

Like that one puzzle where you need pull some rocks out of the wall in a cave. Literaly just pulled random ones until it worked lol

I would agree with you except think about it, you don't like puzzles (me either btw) and what are 90% of the quests in this game ? puzzles.
So sure, they're easy so we can breeze through them but it's still the focal point of this game behind the nice scenery and the story, solving puzzles.
It's not and action RPG it's a puszzle game unfortunately and not even a good one at that.

[vaanomega]

Originally posted by Jeza:

Originally posted by CEPHY:

Fine by me, really.

I never liked puzzles in games to begin with so if the answer is just handed to me, I'll take it.

Like that one puzzle where you need pull some rocks out of the wall in a cave. Literaly just pulled random ones until it worked lol

I would agree with you except think about it, you don't like puzzles (me either btw) and what are 90% of the quests in this game ? puzzles.
So sure, they're easy so we can breeze through them but it's still the focal point of this game behind the nice scenery and the story, solving puzzles.
It's not and action RPG it's a puszzle game unfortunately and not even a good one at that.

The problem with AAA open worlds is that they tries to introduce some much things that they can't make every mechanics great, creating good puzzles takes times and most devs don't really want to spend a lot of money on side activities, so they tries to find the sweet spot between money/time needed to make, player satisfaction (based on the average player) and numbers on said puzzles

Even Zelda BotW puzzles were disappointing to me, when i see a puzzle, i don't want to resolve it in Brain Dead mode, i want my brain to be active

The last great puzzle game i've played was... "Baba is You", the "Bonus" levels are great