Am I the only one struggling with the combat system?

[The Rake™]

Am I the only one here that's struggling with the combat system? Everyone here seems to enjoy it, but i can't fathom fighting multiple enemies at once without drinking a million health potions and trying my best to stay alive - only to die from an off-screen NPC.
Every time a group fight comes up I just try to cheese everything (like running and hiding behind rocks and poking every now and then to attack).
Also, I can never get the protego timing right, it seems to vary randomly. Do I activate it as soon as I see the yellow circle above my head, or do I have to wait a bit? Sometimes I press Y and nothing happens.
And don't get me started on aiming and targeting. The amount of times I've attacked the wrong enemy and died is too damn high.

TL;DL Can't handle combat, it feels clunky as hell. No idea how you guys enjoy it.

[Snobby Hobo]

Very little constructive replies so far. It's somewhere in between the Arkham and Souls series in terms of combat, but leans a bit heavier on the first. This probably doesn't mean much to you however.

To be decently proficient at combat you really only need a few things. Your bread and butter is Protego; the spell that blocks incoming attacks. You can use it when the indicator turns yellow, and you can perfect parry if the outer circle converges perfectly with the inner circle (pay attention to this in-game). A perfect parry is great as it instantly breaks opponents shields and yields more orbs for your ancient magic.

The second thing to realize is how your basic attacks function: they are 1-1-1-2, the initial hits are more or less fodder, and the fourth deals a large amount of damage. Once you have completed a full sequence there is almost never much of a reason to start another without injecting another spell in there.

For spells you always want to have access to the entire color spectrum. Implying at least 1 red, 1 purple and 1 yellow - just so you can pop shields of said color. Note that you can also pop shields with environmental objects or Ancient magic.

Strong spells are spells that aren't situational. Simple spells that deal a lot of damage or stun a target without too many gimmicks attached. Spells I would avoid for a new player (in combat of course):
- Depulso
- Expelliarmus
- Incendio
I love Depulso and Expelliarmus, but they are generally outclassed unless you use more than 4 spells at a time.

Here is a video of me playing the game if it is any help to you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SumghHxbkQ

[The Rake™]

Escrito originalmente por Incredibly average:

(...) Your bread and butter is Protego; the spell that blocks incoming attacks. You can use it when the indicator turns yellow, and you can perfect parry if the outer circle converges perfectly with the inner circle (pay attention to this in-game). A perfect parry is great as it instantly breaks opponents shields and yields more orbs for your ancient magic. (...)

Oooh! So I have to wait for the yellow circles to converge! I was pressing Q/Y as soon as the yellow circle popped up! That's why I could never get protego right! All this time I've been surviving on dodge almost exclusively.

[⎝⎝💚TOͥNͣNͫY💚⎠⎠]

Escrito originalmente por Muggy™:

Escrito originalmente por ⎛⎝💚TonnyTayYT💚⎠⎞:

I am playing on hard and usually I just dodge instead of protego. I focus on one enemy at a time and try to use curses for crowd control.

That's exactly what I do. How come you love it? It's annoying as hell bro!

didnt say I love it lol. I also use consumables too. Most Dark Souls like games are like that too, but this is isn't dark souls so probably poor comparison.

[Simbolic]

Yeah was tough me at first two, since sometimes fight so many enemies and can't see them all.
Whenever ever you see the yellow on you then shield. Can do perfect blocks but wouldn't worry about that. Generally whenever you see the yellow hit the block key. As soon as you see the yellow circle around your guy. When you do the enemy will immoderately attack you.
Same when you see the red circle on your guy to dodge. The idea is you don't really have to move incredible fast. Your suppose to take your time managing enemies.
By paying attention to either the red or yellow circles as the same time.
Although can spam dodge alot it will work with the yellow circle same as the red. Just won't reflect damage. Sometimes will need to spam dodges when enemies get out of you range of sight. Or if one attacks well another is close to you. So the other enemy won't hit you after you dodge the first one.
Seems like you are making the game harder for yourself thinking there is some exact timing for dodging or blocking. So your delaying and losing your chances to use them.

[The Rake™]

Escrito originalmente por Simbolic:

Yeah was tough me at first two, since sometimes fight so many enemies and can't see them all.
Whenever ever you see the yellow on you then shield. Can do perfect blocks but wouldn't worry about that. Generally whenever you see the yellow hit the block key. As soon as you see the yellow circle around your guy. When you do the enemy will immoderately attack you.
Same when you see the red circle on your guy to dodge. The idea is you don't really have to move incredible fast. Your suppose to take your time managing enemies.
By paying attention to either the red or yellow circles as the same time.
Although can spam dodge alot it will work with the yellow circle same as the red. Just won't reflect damage. Sometimes will need to spam dodges when enemies get out of you range of sight. Or if one attacks well another is close to you. So the other enemy won't hit you after you dodge the first one.
Seems like you are making the game harder for yourself thinking there is some exact timing for dodging or blocking. So your delaying and losing your chances to use them.

Wait, I'm confused now. The guy above said I have to wait for the yellow circles to converge?

[Essence of Zem]

Escrito originalmente por Muggy™:

Wait, I'm confused now. The guy above said I have to wait for the yellow circles to converge?

I think the convergence of the circles is only if you're worried about casting a perfect Protego. It's not a necessity, but it does allow for you to auto-cast a Stupefy back at whatever enemy you're currently targeting (even if they weren't the one to cause you to cast Protego in the first place). So it can be really helpful to learn how to do in order to manage the field a bit better. But it's not necessary and you can simply cast a regular Protego as is by hitting the appropriate button when the prompt shows up without worrying about the circles converging first.

[Allonblack]

Escrito originalmente por Muggy™:

Am I the only one here that's struggling with the combat system? Everyone here seems to enjoy it, but i can't fathom fighting multiple enemies at once without drinking a million health potions and trying my best to stay alive - only to die from an off-screen NPC.
Every time a group fight comes up I just try to cheese everything (like running and hiding behind rocks and poking every now and then to attack).
Also, I can never get the protego timing right, it seems to vary randomly. Do I activate it as soon as I see the yellow circle above my head, or do I have to wait a bit? Sometimes I press Y and nothing happens.
And don't get me started on aiming and targeting. The amount of times I've attacked the wrong enemy and died is too damn high.

TL;DL Can't handle combat, it feels clunky as hell. No idea how you guys enjoy it.

Try with a keyboard and mouse. I cannot for the life of me figure out how people are possibly playing this with a controller. It's a nightmare.

[Lonetac]

Escrito originalmente por Muggy™:

Escrito originalmente por Simbolic:

Yeah was tough me at first two, since sometimes fight so many enemies and can't see them all.
Whenever ever you see the yellow on you then shield. Can do perfect blocks but wouldn't worry about that. Generally whenever you see the yellow hit the block key. As soon as you see the yellow circle around your guy. When you do the enemy will immoderately attack you.
Same when you see the red circle on your guy to dodge. The idea is you don't really have to move incredible fast. Your suppose to take your time managing enemies.
By paying attention to either the red or yellow circles as the same time.
Although can spam dodge alot it will work with the yellow circle same as the red. Just won't reflect damage. Sometimes will need to spam dodges when enemies get out of you range of sight. Or if one attacks well another is close to you. So the other enemy won't hit you after you dodge the first one.
Seems like you are making the game harder for yourself thinking there is some exact timing for dodging or blocking. So your delaying and losing your chances to use them.

Wait, I'm confused now. The guy above said I have to wait for the yellow circles to converge?

Thats only for a perfect protego, honestly i never aim for it but its good habbit to get into as it will only make things easier for you.

[LordCarmesim]

Escrito originalmente por AHTOXA:

PC or console?
The thing is, I tried both and the controller's layout need time to get used to.
And on PC, you need to change controls, as blocking, throwing, dodging, switching spells, healing is way too much to handle for one hand.
I changed my right mouse click to cast protego, middle click dodge.
That way I take to task off my left hand.

People on PC play with a controller too mate,

[Lonetac]

Escrito originalmente por AssassinXXVII:

Escrito originalmente por AHTOXA:

PC or console?
The thing is, I tried both and the controller's layout need time to get used to.
And on PC, you need to change controls, as blocking, throwing, dodging, switching spells, healing is way too much to handle for one hand.
I changed my right mouse click to cast protego, middle click dodge.
That way I take to task off my left hand.

People on PC play with a controller too mate,

No idea why though outside of personal preference. I never use a controller on pc anymore.

Some do though, you are not wrong.

[LordCarmesim]

Escrito originalmente por Lonetac:

Escrito originalmente por AssassinXXVII:

People on PC play with a controller too mate,

No idea why though outside of personal preference. I never use a controller on pc anymore.

Some do though, you are not wrong.

This type of games are much better with a controler. Aside from fps and moba games, usually controller is better,

[Zuzia]

For me i play on PC but use ps5 controller combat system is almost perfect. If all spell i can cast not using R2 and dpad all will be perfect.

[J]

I find it very decent, though I personally turned off the target thingy in game play setting at the start when it told you it was an option.

[Omelet Supreme]

i just mainly focus on the characters head while spamming r2 button so i can dodge or use protego. add in some spell combinations in between the spam. seems like the game favours using two spell combos to exploit enemy weaknesses ( like leviosa + diffindo against frogs when they stick their tongues out. this does 4k+ damage and pretty much one shots them ). kind of wish it had more of a more free style combat like dmc games tho

[WreckWren]

As others have said, juggle enemies and it'll all get easier from there. What really broke it open for me was immobilising one with leviosa, then accio another, cast incendio and a few quick casts, then protego whoever is left and repeat with another enemy. Once I had that down, it became a lot easier to vary the loop with different spells.