Sophronia Franklin Quiz

[DrDeath]

One of the questions in the quiz is "true or false? Can you change species if you drink polyjuice potion" in the game the answer is false yet in the Sorcerer's Stone Hermione drinks Polyjuice Potion and turns into a cat of sorts because she put a strand of hair from a cat into the potion.

How can the devs get something like this wrong?

[rservello]

I guessed and literally missed every question. That chick was annoying AF.

[Takingdomscosimog]

Originally posted by Krieger:

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

While I agree that she was still human and you are mostly correct, lions and tigers are separate species and can reproduce but they are (granted) from the same genus.

Yes, but their offspring technically can't reproduce since male Ligers are always sterile.

Ah in that case yeah it makes sense.

[DrDeath]

Originally posted by Knavenformed:

Pandora's box has been opened in this thread

Tell me about it....

[Sweet JP]

I see a lot of people saying that the Hermione poly juice thing isn't her turning into a cat. I agree, she doesn't.
The same people say she's still human. That I don't agree on.
I saw a single person saying it's an abomination, I find that funny.
Now, while she isn't a cat, she certainly isn't a human either. a hybrid is still a species, a hybrid between human and cat would make her a hybrid species, so yea, the answer is still True, and not false.
One person said they liked the answer because she's a good for nothing know-it-all and wanted the answer to be wrong in order to take her down a peg. I honestly think it's a mistake, or more of a misinterpretation, and I want it the answer to be changed. Even if the change isn't to a species we know, it's still a change of species.

[Falaris]

Ravenclaws. They get up to weird discussions.

Polyjuice can't turn you into another species. There's a LOT of references to that. This one is probably the most authoritative, short of the same being said in the books.
https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/polyjuice-potion

Gaining superficial cat features isn't the same as changing or altering species.

[bubblystrawberry]

Because Hermione did not successfully turn into a cat, did she? She ended up with cat like features and the Polyjuice did not wear off the way it should have. She had to stay in the Hospital Wing until it did. Therefore the potion backfired and does not work to change between species.

Hermione herself in that scene says "Do you remember me telling you that the Polyjuice Potion was only for human transformations? It was cat hair I plucked off Millicent Bulstrode’s robes."

That scene is why I knew to answer False..

[Queen_Nessie.TTV]

Originally posted by DrDeath:

One of the questions in the quiz is "true or false? Can you change species if you drink polyjuice potion" in the game the answer is false yet in the Sorcerer's Stone Hermione drinks Polyjuice Potion and turns into a cat of sorts because she put a strand of hair from a cat into the potion.

How can the devs get something like this wrong?

You will notice she didn't completely change into a cat, so it is true that the correct answer is false.

[Shahadem]

Originally posted by Sweet JP:

I see a lot of people saying that the Hermione poly juice thing isn't her turning into a cat. I agree, she doesn't.
The same people say she's still human. That I don't agree on.
I saw a single person saying it's an abomination, I find that funny.
Now, while she isn't a cat, she certainly isn't a human either. a hybrid is still a species, a hybrid between human and cat would make her a hybrid species, so yea, the answer is still True, and not false.
One person said they liked the answer because she's a good for nothing know-it-all and wanted the answer to be wrong in order to take her down a peg. I honestly think it's a mistake, or more of a misinterpretation, and I want it the answer to be changed. Even if the change isn't to a species we know, it's still a change of species.

No she was still a human as her genes were human. If she had gotten pregnant she would have given birth to a normal human. She only OUTWARDLY had some superficial feline physical features. Think of polyjuice potion like an illusion you can touch. The actual person doesn't change, only their appearance changes.

[DrDeath]

Here we go again...

[IAmTiiX]

Originally posted by bubblystrawberry:

Because Hermione did not successfully turn into a cat, did she? She ended up with cat like features and the Polyjuice did not wear off the way it should have. She had to stay in the Hospital Wing until it did. Therefore the potion backfired and does not work to change between species.

This.

Also, something that no one here seems to have taken into consideration... TIME.
Even if we were to consider Hermione's transformation as her literally changing into a different species, we still have to take into account that the game takes place 100 years in the past, so unless Sophronia can see into the future, or someone else in the past that we don't yet know of successfully did transform into a different species using polyjuice potion, nothing about the question is wrong.

[Falaris]

Originally posted by IAmTiiX:

Also, something that no one here seems to have taken into consideration... TIME.
Even if we were to consider Hermione's transformation as her literally changing into a different species, we still have to take into account that the game takes place 100 years in the past, so unless Sophronia can see into the future, or someone else in the past that we don't yet know of successfully did transform into a different species using polyjuice potion, nothing about the question is wrong.

While I did consider the time aspect, it's probably not relevant. People being people, other wizards or witches have probably tried to do the same on purpose - Hermione most certainly was neither the first, nor the most successful, and the rule still was as it was.

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

You seem to not understand what a species is.
An alien, from another planet with sligthly different look is still another species.
Being humanoid does not equal being the same species. Albeit being human, no matter what skin color you have, minor bone shape difference is still the same species. Point is you compare what one has or doesn't have, but not in terms of how the environment may alter it over time.
She was neither human species anymore, or cat species, she was something else now, a hybrid, like you have mules and etc.

Species boundaries are generally defined by the ability to produce viable offspring... the only indistinct matter being what does or doesn't qualify as the "ability" to do so.

In any case, it probably isn't relevant as the transformation changed her phenotype. It most likely didn't change her genotype at all. She was still human... just human with a skin condition, more or less.

And barring some panspermia-based explanation, aliens from another planet wouldn't just be different species but a whole different kingdom.

[lynn.sabin]

I see many of you citing Harry Potter as proof Franklin's quiz is wrong. First, the Potter instance adds a foreign object (cat hair) to the brew; thus, the brew is adulterated. Second, the Harry Potter incident post dates the HL occasion by many decades. Franklin's response is therefore correct. An occurrence that changes the Polyjuice Potion at a later date simply does not negate Franklin's quiz.

[DrDeath]

Originally posted by rservello:

I guessed and literally missed every question. That chick was annoying AF.

I wish you could use the killing curse on students, and this thread...

[SeaGoblin]

everyone's saying hermonie didnt turn into a cat, yet she clearly wasnt human anymore. and in this sense 100% proves it changes your species.

just cuz what she turned into doesnt exist and didnt have a genetically classified designation doesnt mean she didnt change species. so everyone saying she was still human is just wrong.