can anyone please tell me what the point of beast mounts are?

[The Key of Diary]

I dont get it, they do noting special and are even slower.

[Marthuk]

It looks cool

[John Q. Helldiver]

Just a neat alternative. There is one you get later on.... that is just bad ass. Its not practical at all, the broom is really the go to get around quickly thing besides the fast travel stuff.. I appreciate them putting the beast mounts in. Its just neat.

[Caz]

Originally posted by Tersidre:

Just a neat alternative. There is one you get later on.... that is just bad ass. Its not practical at all, the broom is really the go to get around quickly thing besides the fast travel stuff.. I appreciate them putting the beast mounts in. Its just neat.

The beast mounts are objectively worse in pretty much every way except visually.

Takes longer to mount and dismount.
You have to hold forward at all times, unlike with brooms where you can toggle "auto-fly".
They don't have a boost so they will always move slower than brooms.

I want to say it's nice they've added them, but an objectively worse option that "looks cool" means it won't be used. Which means development time was wasted on them. I would like to see beast mounts reworked so they're at least a comparable alternative to brooms.

[Kuthuwu]

Would be nice if they added a way to breed them to have special traits while flying, something to make them a little different from brooms.

[Kerpal]

Beast Mounts not worthless. Since I got my Griffon I just fly with him and stopped the broom. I mean the flying with the Griffon is the best flying experience from all games I have played so far. It feels so good. The mechanic is great and it looks great. All beast mounts fly and ride on another way so far. Why all players need to be fast??? If so just ride your fkn broom and stfu. You dont like your beast mounts? Then dont use them it is so easy.

Also I hope they add some more mounts in the future mabye a big Dragon because we got an Dragon egg in the quest.

[boytype]

Yeah I think that the point is that, they are shown as a thing in the Potterverse, so they wanted to include them for the people who think that they are one of the coolest parts of the setting.

Regardless of what the sales figures might suggest, the Fantastic Beast movies really do have a whole group of fans that think they are the great.

[kode.kristian]

Originally posted by Caz:

Originally posted by Tersidre:

Just a neat alternative. There is one you get later on.... that is just bad ass. Its not practical at all, the broom is really the go to get around quickly thing besides the fast travel stuff.. I appreciate them putting the beast mounts in. Its just neat.

The beast mounts are objectively worse in pretty much every way except visually.

Takes longer to mount and dismount.
You have to hold forward at all times, unlike with brooms where you can toggle "auto-fly".
They don't have a boost so they will always move slower than brooms.

I want to say it's nice they've added them, but an objectively worse option that "looks cool" means it won't be used. Which means development time was wasted on them. I would like to see beast mounts reworked so they're at least a comparable alternative to brooms.

The non-boosted travel speed and dismount speed you mention would only be "objectively worse", if there were no other factors to consider and no other ways of looking at them. The only thing that is objective about them, is that one of the numbers is lower than the other, and one of the numbers is higher than the other. The fact that a number is lower than another number, doesn't make it "objectively worse", it just makes it "objectively lower"; there's a huge difference. They are only worse if speed and efficiency are the only factors you're looking for in your transportation.

Some people might very well enjoy the mounts over the broom, for pesky things like feeling they have a bond with them, immersion into the universe, enjoying how they feel to control, or just enjoying the scenery. So not all players are guaranteed to consider the slower travel speeds or longer dismount times to be negatives; they could, in fact, be considered positives for some players, if it adds to the experience they're looking for. It's all just a matter of perspectives, preferences, and immediate goals.

[k41]

The Graphorn is just fun to ride. Charging through enemies and stuff, really cool^^

[Caz]

Originally posted by kode.kristian:

Originally posted by Caz:

The beast mounts are objectively worse in pretty much every way except visually.

Takes longer to mount and dismount.
You have to hold forward at all times, unlike with brooms where you can toggle "auto-fly".
They don't have a boost so they will always move slower than brooms.

I want to say it's nice they've added them, but an objectively worse option that "looks cool" means it won't be used. Which means development time was wasted on them. I would like to see beast mounts reworked so they're at least a comparable alternative to brooms.

The non-boosted travel speed and dismount speed you mention would only be "objectively worse", if there were no other factors to consider and no other ways of looking at them.

All factors considered, the beasts mount/dismount takes several seconds longer.

Originally posted by kode.kristian:

The only thing that is objective about them, is that one of the numbers is lower than the other, and one of the numbers is higher than the other. The fact that a number is lower than another number, doesn't make it "objectively worse", it just makes it "objectively lower"; there's a huge difference.

What are you rambling about with this? It literally takes several seconds longer to mount and dismount on the beasts. I have no idea what you're on about with numbers unless you're referring to seconds to mount/dismount, in which case you're proving my point.

Originally posted by kode.kristian:

They are only worse if speed and efficiency are the only factors you're looking for in your transportation.

There are no other factors in regards to what I mentioned. I even specifically stated that I'm excluding visuals because that is not an objective factor.

Originally posted by kode.kristian:

Some people might very well enjoy the mounts over the broom, for pesky things like feeling they have a bond with them, immersion into the universe, enjoying how they feel to control, or just enjoying the scenery. So not all players are guaranteed to consider the slower travel speeds or longer dismount times to be negatives; they could, in fact, be considered positives for some players, if it adds to the experience they're looking for. It's all just a matter of perspectives, preferences, and immediate goals.

None of these are OBJECTIVE factors. These are all SUBJECTIVE. Hence the reason I specifically focused on OBJECTIVE factors.

[Shahadem]

What is the point of a Rolls Royce?

[Caz]

Originally posted by Shahadem:

What is the point of a Rolls Royce?

Real life vs video game.

[The Key of Diary]

Originally posted by Shahadem:

What is the point of a Rolls Royce?

Well, if you have to ask, I don't see my mounts having any retracting ornaments.

[kode.kristian]

Originally posted by Caz:

Originally posted by kode.kristian:

The non-boosted travel speed and dismount speed you mention would only be "objectively worse", if there were no other factors to consider and no other ways of looking at them.

All factors considered, the beasts mount/dismount takes several seconds longer.

Originally posted by kode.kristian:

The only thing that is objective about them, is that one of the numbers is lower than the other, and one of the numbers is higher than the other. The fact that a number is lower than another number, doesn't make it "objectively worse", it just makes it "objectively lower"; there's a huge difference.

What are you rambling about with this? It literally takes several seconds longer to mount and dismount on the beasts. I have no idea what you're on about with numbers unless you're referring to seconds to mount/dismount, in which case you're proving my point.

Originally posted by kode.kristian:

They are only worse if speed and efficiency are the only factors you're looking for in your transportation.

There are no other factors in regards to what I mentioned. I even specifically stated that I'm excluding visuals because that is not an objective factor.

Originally posted by kode.kristian:

Some people might very well enjoy the mounts over the broom, for pesky things like feeling they have a bond with them, immersion into the universe, enjoying how they feel to control, or just enjoying the scenery. So not all players are guaranteed to consider the slower travel speeds or longer dismount times to be negatives; they could, in fact, be considered positives for some players, if it adds to the experience they're looking for. It's all just a matter of perspectives, preferences, and immediate goals.

None of these are OBJECTIVE factors. These are all SUBJECTIVE. Hence the reason I specifically focused on OBJECTIVE factors.

High travel speed and fast dismount time being better than low travel speed and slow dismount times, are also just subjective interpretations of objective values. An objectively higher number does not equal an objectively better number, unless there are no other use-cases than having the highest possible number.

Wanting to max out your speed and efficiency is just a preference, hence not objectively good, but rather just subjectively good.

It is objectively true that a travel speed of X, is higher than a travel speed of X-1. It is NOT objectively true that the higher travel speed is better however, as the concepts of "better" and "worse" are subjective; they depend on what the player wants to achieve at the given time. If the player is not in a rush, then speed and efficiency might not be their priority, in which case such values aren't necessarily the best.


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TLDR: I am not refuting objective factors. I am refuting your subjective interpretation of objective factors. Fastest does not mean best, unless the player prioritizes maximizing their speed over everything else, which is a subjective way of looking at the objective values.

[Moga CMDR]

i hated the broom controls, the mount was more natural. I never used the broom, and barely used the mount.

I mostly used the mount near the end when I was rushing to the last story bits and didnt want to unlock the fast travel points.

But yeah, I barely used the mount. But it was nice looking. And for some maybe its more comfy than the brooms.

[Jynn]

I hate the broom

hippogriff 100%. I don't need to get somewhere as fast as possible, i don't mind taking it slower if it means i like the journey