Why the heck are talent points limited with no option to respec them?

[Broso]

That kind of design is SO annoyingly backward, how did something this bad even pass QA??

[Dragon Master]

Because it's a fun mechanic for old-school gamers who remember living with our choices and accepting the consequences.

There is no problem with the game not having enough talent points to take everything. Respec is something that will likely be added or modded in later though. The game is easy enough that I doubt it's required.

[Akemua]

At least, to me, the game isn't hard so it doesn't really matter what slight buffs you can get. And if you're playing on the harder difficulty, odds are you already know what to spec into.

By the time you reach max level as well, there are only a few talents you don't get so not a huge deal breaker. I don't mind it either way TBH, if they add it in great, if not, oh well (respec).

Edit: Currently at lvl 29 and am sitting on 2 talents because nothing is even standing out to me cuz all the stuff I wanted I already got. Everything else is just "extra".

[Rizgis]

Oh no, I can't become jack-of-all-trades-master-of-all, what a terrible game design!

Just take what you think looks nice, it's not like it's a matter of life and death to pick one perk over another.

[Broso]

It's not a matter of being required, it's a matter of being able to try out different builds. There is a reason that most new RPGs offer this feature. It's pure QoL. That's why this is bad.

And what is this "live with your choices" nonsense? This is a 50+ hour game. Are you telling me I'm supposed to spend dozens of hours again if I find out that some talents are less useful than others and I want to redo my talents? What the hell does that have to do with choices that matter?

Why are you defending bad design? Are you so desperate to see this game in a better light than it deserves?

[[BLK] Telu]

I'm agree, you should be able to reset your talent tree when you need it.

[Steppenrazor]

It increases save scumming? er i totally meant "re-playablity"

[Bob Gnarly]

Eh, they give you warning and to be honest more than enough talent points.

There's not much build variety anyway.

[Rizgis]

I'm all for respec in games but really, in this game it doesn't really matter.
It matters a lot in stat-heavy games where build diversity is large. (part of why I dislike having limited respecs per playthrough in Elden Ring)
In this game it's literally a difference between hitting multiple enemies with a cast or charging your supers faster.
It can be added but it doesn't disrupt flow of the game or is a serious issue.

[Baal]

The gameplay is so simple and the complete lack of level scaling makes it so that it doesn't really matter what "build" you go with, you'll end up with enough points to pretty much bulldoze through the content. The shallowness of skill tree options is such that you really aren't going to miss out much regardless of what you go with.

[Ghevd]

My biggest gripe is hotbar slots being tied to talents.

I feel they should have been tied to something else like Merlin shrines.

[Where'sMySupersuit!!]

Unless later in the game they add more talent skills (or talent points are used for something else) there is no point in having respec.

If you read every talent you will know what is useful and what sounds pointless and a good amount are pointless.

[Fallen]

Originally posted by Bob Gnarly:

Eh, they give you warning and to be honest more than enough talent points.

There's not much build variety anyway.

ikr? like who is going to invest in the plants (other than maybe on the hardest difficulty?), or potions that only last like 3 seconds? i can understand investing in the one talent for the focus potion since that is literally the only useful one since it lets it reapply, but everything else is just meh in that tree. as for the others you just invest in the core tree and for the other trees what you know you use a lot, and the curse tree when you can (if you want to use the curses).

i think you get 35 total points you can allocate in the end, so plenty of points to work with.

[Halfalfasleep]

Honestly it feels less like 'five skill trees' and more like 'one skill tree and you can upgrade your favorite spells'. There are only a handful of traits that might effect your play style but since you don't need skill investment into the trees to take them it doesn't matter.

[VolcanoSheep]

I'm perfectly fine with the way traits work, I think it works well.

What does annoy me is the number of spell slots though. It's abundantly clear the four spells per loadout and 4 loadouts is designed for a console with controllers in mind, but my god is it annoying when playing on PC. I have enough buttons for every spell, just let me use them.

[Vzemyr]

You dont need all the traits. So many of them affect spells you wont use in battle anyway. It's troublesome to constantly be swapping your 4 slotted skills around during combat to use all the spells at all times. One skill group with 1 purple, 1 yellow and 2 red spells and the talent that makes basic attacks speed up cooldowns will get you through every combat encounter. Then I keep a 2nd spell group with unforgivables or all red damage spells for when I dont need to worry about having shield popping control skills for. Just taking the talents for the skills I use, I run out of talents useful to me around level 27.

You dont need to be a master of everything because you wont use everything.