Hogwarts Legacy

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亚历克斯 Feb 12, 2023 @ 2:45am
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(About Performance) Are you guys alright?
I can't understand how people are so easily going over this problem ,which is obviously affecting a lot of the PC' users.
I see comments back and forth with "yeah, maybe that 3070 is not good enough" or "try lowering your settings", " try these tweaks " , "check this ", GUYS, are u alright?
It's an AAA game, that was hyped af and developed since (2018 i think?).
Considering that lots of people with RTX 3000's and 4000's are having this problem, no, they should not "lower settings" or "look for tweaks", the developers should've just patched this by now.
On PC's with specs like this, you were supposed to install the game, turn all the settings to Ultra (maybe keep the RTX off tho in some cases), and start playing with 0 problems and extra smoothness. Instead of asking "did u try this fix" or "is my 3070 enough", we should be asking "is this game even worth buying?" .
The devs still don't seem to care about it atm, i've seen more interest in fixing this from random guys on the internet than the developers themselves, and I'm not trying to be rude, because I've bought the game myself and want to play it aswell, but I'm full of "looking for fixes" or "questioning my hardware".
And just because there is some people like "Yeah but I play it on an RTX 2060 without any problems", it doesn't mean we can just hide the trash under the carpet and ignore everyone who is experiencing stuttering and fps drops.
Originally posted by JMFCainey:
Its amusing to me to see people reply to this with the same responses
the people who aren't experiencing the problem somehow just don't understand

Its not a hardware issue
is not a settings issue
these are the very first things everyone is going to check, every single time, if you've got an issue with a game, these are the first thing anyone checks, its a no brainer, stop suggesting it, I guarantee you everyone looked at all this before stooping to forums.

You should always expect a game to run on a high end set up, games are not cheap and its become some industry standard that its ok to release games littered with issues, it's not, when you're excited for a product, not a cheap one at that, you expect to get what you're paid for, its akin to going to a restaurant just for the chef to spit in your food, and for some reason everyone is just telling you to eat it and enjoy it, no, its not ok.

one thing I will correct is funnily enough, even with everyone who doesn't have the problem all suggesting everything but the idea that the game is botched, the devs actually have acknowledged its a problem, if you look at what the "day one patch" was suppose to be, it was actually suppose to tackle all of the major performance issues, but it did nothing, so really those "patch notes" are them admitting they know the issue is the game.

granted as there simply doesn't seem to be a real fix yet, posting on the forums probably isn't the wisest, you're only baiting the same people giving the same responses and others asking the same question, unfortunately its something we're going to have to just wait for.
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Jin- Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:16am 
Originally posted by quaixor:
Originally posted by vitralis:
Considering that lots of people with RTX 3000's and 4000's are having this problem, no, they should not "lower settings" or "look for tweaks", the developers should've just patched this by now.
Because the problem isn't with their graphics card. The game runs great on my 1080ti. You just need to have good hardware other than the graphics card, such as
- 32 GB RAM
- Fast CPU
- SSD

The most common problem is not having 32 GB RAM. You get stuttering with 16 GB as the system is forced to page RAM in and out.

Not helping. How much more i can go up from 13600kf 32gb ram? Since the game doesnt use multicore even 13900k isnt an option
MrTaceo Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:19am 
yea, im here wondering how my i5 4590 and gtx 970(ssd/24 gb ram) running medium-ultra(Low for sky/foliage//shadow/view distance) have no fps drops to less than 50..and someone with a 30xx have issues. I could even alt tab without problem when in some games I couldnt even alt tab without the game having issues
mdathon Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:19am 
you really dont need 32 GB memory, i have got a really smooth, goodlooking play with my RTX 2080 Super (8GB) and a Ryzen 9 3900X, with 16 GB Memory
亚历克斯 Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:24am 
To respond some of the most common replies in 1 comment:

"Maybe is ur RAM, maybe is ur CPU, etc"
First of all, I don't think any of the RTX 3000's and RTX 4000's users have PC's with a 1k-2k$ GPU and 150$ CPU, or a 3080Ti along with 16gb RAM. We don't talk about anomalies.
I personally have 32GB Ram, i7-9700F, RTX 3060Ti. Maybe not the most powerful one, but definetly enough to run a game on 1080p with RTX turned off (which obviously isn't the case, as I get 140 fps and then go down to 48 and back up to 140 for no reason)

"Go to console if u want to play the game smoothly since day1"
Yeah, then why don't they give the game for free on PC, since it's obvious that it won't run smoothly?

"Try playing it on low-medium settings, close any running browser tabs, disable antivirus, etc etc, it may work better"
What's that? 2004? (I'm not talking about my configuration specifically, but how can some people here pay like 2-3k $ for a PC, then pay 60-70$ for an AAA game, and then they have to run it on Low settings to be able to play smoothly? Just because the devs aren't saying anything about a fix, or just letting us know that they are working on it?

"You don't know what you are doing. I have a lower-end PC and still play the game fine. It's your fault not being able to fix it"
If "fixing" means running it on Low, disabling anything running on the PC (even the anti-virus), no, it's not our fault.
If the game just runs smooth for you out of the box, even if u have a PC with lower specs than those saying they are experiencing stuttering, then again, is not our fault that some are lucky and some are not.

"Yeah, it's normal for the game not to run that well on release, I personally play it on very low settings, maybe next year when we have a fix for this I will play it again with the Ultra settings"
Yeah, because that's how things should work actually. I should buy the game on release, to play it with stuttering on Low settings, and then, in 2026, when there is Hogwarts Legacy 2 just about to release, I should play the first game again, but this time with Ultra settings, because the devs fixed it by now.
󠀡󠀡 Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:27am 
Originally posted by vitralis:
To respond some of the most common replies in 1 comment:

"Maybe is ur RAM, maybe is ur CPU, etc"
First of all, I don't think any of the RTX 3000's and RTX 4000's users have PC's with a 1k-2k$ GPU and 150$ CPU, or a 3080Ti along with 16gb RAM. We don't talk about anomalies.
I personally have 32GB Ram, i7-9700F, RTX 3060Ti. Maybe not the most powerful one, but definetly enough to run a game on 1080p with RTX turned off (which obviously isn't the case, as I get 140 fps and then go down to 48 and back up to 140 for no reason)
When the game drops to 48 fps, that's the game being bottlenecked by your CPU. I have a faster CPU (12900k) and sometimes my FPS goes down to 60. Those people telling you to get a faster CPU are right.
Orothus Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:32am 
FFS. Yes. everything is fine with me. Is it so hard to understand that not everyone has problems with this game? There are a mass of computer configurations. In some it will work better in others worse. End of story. But yes, the best way is to create another crappy post about the same thing and ask the same stupid questions again. "Are you all right?" Go to the developers' site to report bugs in the game and report what you have a problem with. End of story...
Thjaffi Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:39am 
when looking through the forums, it seems like by far the most issues are with RTX20-40 series cards, no matter what CPU or RAM configuration.

i think nvidia has to adress the issue with updated drivers.
Last edited by Thjaffi; Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:40am
亚历克斯 Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:39am 
Originally posted by Orothus:
FFS. Yes. everything is fine with me. Is it so hard to understand that not everyone has problems with this game? There are a mass of computer configurations. In some it will work better in others worse. End of story. But yes, the best way is to create another crappy post about the same thing and ask the same stupid questions again. "Are you all right?" Go to the developers' site to report bugs in the game and report what you have a problem with. End of story...

I can create 1000 posts per day if I want to, as long as nobody seems to take any measures.
"For those who play it without problems, just rate it positively. For those who experience problems, just shut up and leave"
Jamisia Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:39am 
There are so many people out there with a 4K Monitor and a 8GB Vram card (3060 ti/3070,/3070 ti.) And all of them storm the forums complaining about bad optimization.
亚历克斯 Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:42am 
Originally posted by Jamisia:
There are so many people out there with a 4K Monitor and a 8GB Vram card (3060 ti/3070,/3070 ti.) And all of them storm the forums complaining about bad optimization.

These issues happen even on 1080p Low settings, RTX off.
Nobody was complaining about not being able to play the game on 4K, using a 3060Ti/3070.
Last edited by 亚历克斯; Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:43am
Thjaffi Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:43am 
Originally posted by quaixor:
Originally posted by vitralis:
To respond some of the most common replies in 1 comment:

"Maybe is ur RAM, maybe is ur CPU, etc"
First of all, I don't think any of the RTX 3000's and RTX 4000's users have PC's with a 1k-2k$ GPU and 150$ CPU, or a 3080Ti along with 16gb RAM. We don't talk about anomalies.
I personally have 32GB Ram, i7-9700F, RTX 3060Ti. Maybe not the most powerful one, but definetly enough to run a game on 1080p with RTX turned off (which obviously isn't the case, as I get 140 fps and then go down to 48 and back up to 140 for no reason)
When the game drops to 48 fps, that's the game being bottlenecked by your CPU. I have a faster CPU (12900k) and sometimes my FPS goes down to 60. Those people telling you to get a faster CPU are right.

you can't tell bottlenecks without looking at the telemetry first.
󠀡󠀡 Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:48am 
Originally posted by Thjaffi:
Originally posted by quaixor:
When the game drops to 48 fps, that's the game being bottlenecked by your CPU. I have a faster CPU (12900k) and sometimes my FPS goes down to 60. Those people telling you to get a faster CPU are right.

you can't tell bottlenecks without looking at the telemetry first.
For me the CPU is almost always the bottleneck because I adjust my graphics settings so that both the CPU and GPU usage is maximized. If I do it right the bottleneck switches between GPU and CPU depending on what's being show in the game.
Eburon Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:53am 
I've done loads of testing these past couple of days and have come to the conclusion the game is in dire need of performance optimization (at least for myself). Seems to run well on some systems, and many of these people scold anyone else for saying the game runs bad. But on a system like mine I am seeing not such great performance at all. The troll fight in hogsmeade made my fps go into single digits. I have RTX 3060 Ti, r5 3600 6-core CPU, 32GB 3200MHz RAM and game is installed on NVMe SSD. This was at medium preset 1440p and FSR balanced. In many places I cannot achieve smooth frame pacing. I'd rather have smooth 30FPS than 60FPS that stutters all over. With my rig even at 1080p low these issues persist and there's no way I have even a smooth 30FPS in certain areas like hogwarts. I'm kind of super sensitive to frame pacing. It's super easy to notice when it's bad, and it's awesome when your video feed is butter smooth. Some people might not be as sensitive and thus claim the game is running all right for them.

Lot's of theories out there why performance is bad. Game hogs to much RAM and VRAM and doesn't use it effectively. CPU might be under-utilized, especially for AMD users. There is an issue with some Nvidia GPU drivers overhead that kills performance. All or none of these might have some merit, but I'm not qualified to suggest anything here

It is a PC game, and PC optimization is very hard to do properly. I don't mind waiting a little while for some patches, but I would like the devs to at least acknowledge the issues people have been having and assured they were working on improvements.
No One Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:56am 
Hmmmm.
I have rtx 3060, i3 12100F with 16gb ram.
Setting mixed with HIGH and Ultra,
No Dlss
Upscaling to 75% 1080p. Ray tracing ON except reflection.

Fps average 51
Fps average 45 on forest

Honestly the only stutter i got just once and it always when i first time come to the place.

The point is, just tweak yer setting.

The game graphic is still beautiful even upscaling lower it down a bit to 75% upscaling.
Unless u got rtx 40 series or rtx 3090 above,
yea thats i aint gonna debate.
󠀡󠀡 Feb 12, 2023 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by Eburon:
I've done loads of testing these past couple of days and have come to the conclusion the game is in dire need of performance optimization (at least for myself). Seems to run well on some systems, and many of these people scold anyone else for saying the game runs bad. But on a system like mine I am seeing not such great performance at all. The troll fight in hogsmeade made my fps go into single digits. I have RTX 3060 Ti, r5 3600 6-core CPU, 32GB 3200MHz RAM and game is installed on NVMe SSD. This was at medium preset 1440p and FSR balanced. In many places I cannot achieve smooth frame pacing. I'd rather have smooth 30FPS than 60FPS that stutters all over. With my rig even at 1080p low these issues persist and there's no way I have even a smooth 30FPS in certain areas like hogwarts. I'm kind of super sensitive to frame pacing. It's super easy to notice when it's bad, and it's awesome when your video feed is butter smooth. Some people might not be as sensitive and thus claim the game is running all right for them.

Lot's of theories out there why performance is bad. Game hogs to much RAM and VRAM and doesn't use it effectively. CPU might be under-utilized, especially for AMD users. There is an issue with some Nvidia GPU drivers overhead that kills performance. All or none of these might have some merit, but I'm not qualified to suggest anything here

It is a PC game, and PC optimization is very hard to do properly. I don't mind waiting a little while for some patches, but I would like the devs to at least acknowledge the issues people have been having and assured they were working on improvements.
Your card has 8 GB VRAM, so you're likely running out of VRAM. Once you run out of VRAM, the game starts paging out VRAM into your normal RAM, which is very slow. You get massive FPS drops.
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