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THEZOHAN Feb 10, 2023 @ 11:38pm
Gotta talk about Sirona
Its obvious this is a character meant to quell the hatred and backlash over Rowling's position on trans people. Also I think it's pretty hilarious that, in their attempt to pander, they made this character completely non-passing, in a world with magic...
What were they thinking here guys? Feel like I'm taking crazy pills or is this really the level we're at now?
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OMGrant Feb 10, 2023 @ 11:42pm 
In spite of the name fail, her character was handled with kindness and compassion in my opinion.
Thane_Ragnar Feb 10, 2023 @ 11:45pm 
You are taking crazy pills ...
Sumeru Feb 10, 2023 @ 11:51pm 
Really nothing against Trans People and such. Live and let live. But what really annoys me is our society nowadays. You hear about stuff Like this on the News on a daily base and its already enough so why drag all this political stuff Into Games????? Its a Gaaaame. People came Here to Play and enjoy a Harry Potter based Game and get lost Into it so Please why drag political Matters Into a Game ... Keep it out of there but i guess this is our world and society we're living in now. Its kinda making me sad.
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THEZOHAN Feb 11, 2023 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by Thane_Ragnar:
You are taking crazy pills ...
I do not believe I am
Bosco Feb 11, 2023 @ 9:28am 
no you don't - its make believe, made up. at this point these posts have been done hundreds of times - boring!
Originally posted by FREAKY FECAL FEASTER:
Its obvious this is a character meant to quell the hatred and backlash over Rowling's position on trans people. Also I think it's pretty hilarious that, in their attempt to pander, they made this character completely non-passing, in a world with magic...
What were they thinking here guys? Feel like I'm taking crazy pills or is this really the level we're at now?

In a terms of magic world indeed, non passing.
But in terms to make it a visible trans, passing. Because how would trans know its a trans if it would be just a woman?
Anyways, we dont need trans ingame, the reason for it is clear, if you are a person with gender dysphoria, do you want to play a trans??? Hell noooooo. You want to play the gender with all its things the gender offers, so the gender you want to be in real life.
So me as a person with gender dysphoria, im not crying "why cant i play a trans!!!", why would i want that, what for? I want to play the gender i am not born as in real life, and it makes me feel even better if that gender is handled and announced as someone from that gender, and not with they/them. Just let me chose if i want to be homosexual, heterosexual or bi. but everything else, just let me be the Guy/Girl i cant be in real life.
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ConnipShin Feb 11, 2023 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by Sumeru:
Really nothing against Trans People and such. Live and let live. But what really annoys me is our society nowadays. You hear about stuff Like this on the News on a daily base and its already enough so why drag all this political stuff Into Games????? Its a Gaaaame. People came Here to Play and enjoy a Harry Potter based Game and get lost Into it so Please why drag political Matters Into a Game ... Keep it out of there but i guess this is our world and society we're living in now. Its kinda making me sad.

If you actually didn't have anything against them, then you'd have no problem seeing one in a game and wouldn't immediately think your political views are being attacked, just sayin'. If their very existence is a "political matter" to you instead of just seeing them as another person then, once again, you most likely do have something against them.
Kaiser Feb 11, 2023 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by ConnipShin:
Originally posted by Sumeru:
Really nothing against Trans People and such. Live and let live. But what really annoys me is our society nowadays. You hear about stuff Like this on the News on a daily base and its already enough so why drag all this political stuff Into Games????? Its a Gaaaame. People came Here to Play and enjoy a Harry Potter based Game and get lost Into it so Please why drag political Matters Into a Game ... Keep it out of there but i guess this is our world and society we're living in now. Its kinda making me sad.

If you actually didn't have anything against them, then you'd have no problem seeing one in a game and wouldn't immediately think your political views are being attacked, just sayin'. If their very existence is a "political matter" to you instead of just seeing them as another person then, once again, you most likely do have something against them.

An obvious trans playing a role in a story in late 1800's Scotland blends in about as well as a McDonald's hamburger at a Vegan cookout. Pretending that any criticism about it is "problematic" is stupid.

"Its a separate, magical society!" One which is intrinsically attached to the "muggle" world around it both at the level of government (Ministry of Magic communicating with muggle Prime Ministers) and practical means (wizardkind inhabiting both societies to various degrees, with many wizardkind coming from muggles, and wizardkind birthing squibs who have the option to "become" a muggle in life, as two extreme examples)...and let us not forget that in late 1800's Scotland/GB slavery had been entirely outlawed for generations, racism as an acceptable view had been criticized and shoved into a small minority, and extending equal rights to all citizens of the society was normalized...meanwhile, in the "magical society that is so progressive" there is widespread slavery, racism/speciesism, and societal rights are withheld to many citizens and are given based on status and characteristics. :philosophizing:

Stay off Twitter and TikTok, ur brain no worky no mo.
D's Journal Feb 11, 2023 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by OMGrant:
In spite of the name fail, her character was handled with kindness and compassion in my opinion.
What is wrong with the name?
Gitrekt Gudson Feb 11, 2023 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by D's Journal:
Originally posted by OMGrant:
In spite of the name fail, her character was handled with kindness and compassion in my opinion.
What is wrong with the name?

SIRona lol... because it's a sir.
Pwntergeist Feb 11, 2023 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by FREAKY FECAL FEASTER:
Its obvious this is a character meant to quell the hatred and backlash over Rowling's position on trans people. Also I think it's pretty hilarious that, in their attempt to pander, they made this character completely non-passing, in a world with magic...
What were they thinking here guys? Feel like I'm taking crazy pills or is this really the level we're at now?

I don't even mean this as an insult, but aren't most transgender people non-passing? If I look at Twitch I can immediately tell the difference between a transgender person and a woman. Wouldn't it be even more offensive if she was passing? Then we wouldn't even know that they are transgender, right? This whole mess is hilarious to me, it's when a bunch of twisted narratives all meet each other and people can't figure out which narrative is supposed to win out. Just play the game if you want to, if you don't want to , don't play it. Very easy.
Monkey Metal Feb 11, 2023 @ 10:19am 
Originally posted by FREAKY FECAL FEASTER:
Its obvious this is a character meant to quell the hatred and backlash over Rowling's position on trans people. Also I think it's pretty hilarious that, in their attempt to pander, they made this character completely non-passing, in a world with magic...
What were they thinking here guys? Feel like I'm taking crazy pills or is this really the level we're at now?

Thought the same my self, it was kinda of unnecessary and does nothing to enhance the experience in my own view.
THEZOHAN Feb 11, 2023 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by Pwntergeist:
I don't even mean this as an insult, but aren't most transgender people non-passing? If I look at Twitch I can immediately tell the difference between a transgender person and a woman. Wouldn't it be even more offensive if she was passing? Then we wouldn't even know that they are transgender, right? This whole mess is hilarious to me, it's when a bunch of twisted narratives all meet each other and people can't figure out which narrative is supposed to win out. Just play the game if you want to, if you don't want to , don't play it. Very easy.

This is because they don't have the assistance of magic. I've only met one passing trans in my entire life. Everyone just though she was a girl and treated her as one, she lived as one. However its only because she transitioned at 8 years old. Sirona's only excuse for not passing is because she doesn't want to, which means she's not trans, shes "gender diverse". Better put, shes insane.

The discourse is important so we can reassure that these kinds of dumb decisions aren't shoe-horned in to any future games. A man who wants to be a woman probably doesn't want to be represented as the Evil Step Sister from Shrek.
Trigormike Feb 12, 2023 @ 4:00am 
The French got it right - Go to 1:12:31
https://youtu.be/tt0PSTsvySc?t=4351
Last edited by Trigormike; Feb 12, 2023 @ 4:03am
Ignosius Feb 12, 2023 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by Harleskin GER/SLO:
Anyways, we dont need trans ingame, the reason for it is clear, if you are a person with gender dysphoria, do you want to play a trans??? Hell noooooo. You want to play the gender with all its things the gender offers, so the gender you want to be in real life.
So me as a person with gender dysphoria, im not crying "why cant i play a trans!!!", why would i want that, what for? I want to play the gender i am not born as in real life, and it makes me feel even better if that gender is handled and announced as someone from that gender, and not with they/them. Just let me chose if i want to be homosexual, heterosexual or bi. but everything else, just let me be the Guy/Girl i cant be in real life.
Yeah, that always struck me as weird. Why would a trans person want to play a trans character? The entire point of being trans is that you don't want to be trans, you just want your body to match your gender.

Why would a trans woman not want to just play as a woman? Isn't that literally her goal?
Last edited by Ignosius; Feb 12, 2023 @ 4:46am
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