You own a Slave in this game?

[Kan3da.]

Love the amount of effort the dev team put into the game to go all in on inclusivity in this game. Its a shame that many outlets arent talking about this game at all out of boycott and the ones that do mention JK Rowlings problematic stance on trans rights but unfortunately do not mention how this game is mostly a case study on how important it is to seperate creator and extended art. The effort is laudable.

One thing though that bothers me a bit is the elf in the room of requirement. He keeps complimenting me submissively for the smallest things like making potions while he submissively scrubs the floors on his knees with both hands wearing rags.

He even refers to himself in the third person.

Isnt the magical nature of the room not capable to keep it clean and if it isnt is it necessary for someone to crawl around on his knees when everything from changing the room to placing object can be done with a flick of the wrist?

I know that there is a lore background for all of that but it feels like a bit of an oversight to put so much effort to remove the problematic elements from the source material and leave such a glaring part of it so demonstratively in the game.

[MaSeKind]

Have you actually read the books? Also he's not your slave. He's helping you, and he's a house elf. That's how they are.

[Frobscottle]

//You own a Slave in this game?//
No.


//so much effort to remove the problematic elements from the source material//
Examples?

[Kaizar]

That's absolutely hilarious and i hope we can beat his ass like malfoy did.

[El Shabs]

Read the books, it's all covered in there, and no JK Rowling isn't pro slavery, just because there's a submissive elf (will that become a new p0rn category?) doesn't mean anyone is saying slavery is fine

[MoldMassacre]

All I can say about that is ridiculous, and that's a showcase problem for a person who has everything and tries to find faults where there aren't any.

[Marius]

To be honest, if I did read it correctly during a stream, and the wiki, Hogwarts station and the train, or so, are built by muggle workers, then the wizards and witches used memory and concealment charms on those muggles. So basically they used them as slaves to built the station, etc. Then erase their memories, but perhaps they paid them money, tho.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by S3b4st13n:

//You own a Slave in this game?//
No.


//so much effort to remove the problematic elements from the source material//
Examples?

They believe the name Cho Chang is racist, because reasons. They believe the name Kingsley Shacklebolt is racist, because reasons. They believe goblins are based on Jews because they have long noses and like gold. They also believe that because house elves exist as servants to wizards, and that the wizarding community generally does not see a problem with this, that J.K Rowling herself actually supports slavery in the real world.

They completely ignore the fact that all of the villains are white, mostly men, and believe in a magic ideology that supports racism (if you consider magical humans and non-magical humans to be distinct races of humans) and eugenics.

To their mind J.K Rowling's books are strongly anti-racist but also secretly racist.

[Just Chill]

Cheez... Play this game without sniffing bath salt. oO

[Kan3da.]

Originally posted by MaSeKind:

Have you actually read the books? Also he's not your slave. He's helping you, and he's a house elf. That's how they are.

I wrote the last paragraph just for you friend. Ironic that you ask me to read hundreds of pages of books to comprehend something when you cant read one paragraph.

It doesnt matter to me that they "are" like this by "nature". He is scrubbing floors on his knees clothed in rags (like a slave) in a room that is magical and selfchanging, talks about himself in 3rd persons (like a servant/slave), speaks submissively and compliments me for doing the most mundane things.

I dont like that.

And you forgot to mention that the source material understands that those creatures are designed in a problematic manner too. What was that in Order of the Phoenix were the Blacks were cutting off their heads when they couldn't carry a tea tray? Seems like their also have been some kind of attempt to wage war on the "masters" eh?

So you might actually read those books you think you remember well again before you lecture me about something that i actually was not confused about because you couldnt even read a post properly.

The problem is easily mediated. Give me an option to gift him some clothes. Done.

[Kan3da.]

Originally posted by alan13457:

I have a dog and although she acts submissively I would never consider her a slave, its a dogs nature same with a house elf..

The dog is not magically compelled to obey your every weird. You have to train into him. And giving him clothes wont change the nature of his relationship to you. You also INTERPRET your dogs behaviour as submissive. If youd understand a bit more about dogs you would know that it isnt. Unless you beat that into him.

[Just Chill]

Originally posted by Kan3da.:

I dont like that.

You are taking fiction far too serious.

[Frobscottle]

Originally posted by Kan3da.:

The problem is easily mediated. Give me an option to gift him some clothes. Done.

You're not Deek's master, only the master can free a house elf.
Deek doesn't serve you, he serves Hogwarts.

The topic of house elf slavery has been around since the start, you're 25 years late on this topic. Let it rest, it's clearly not changing.

[Frobscottle]

Originally posted by Kurt:

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Oh that ♥♥♥♥.

Don't see them removing any of it from the game though, so still not sure why OP thinks they went to "so much effort".

[Kurt]

House Elves are a part of Wizarding culture, OP. It's a living, breathing world different from our own, and with customs that do not always make sense to outsiders. If you went and spent some time with tribes living in pre-moral cultures (there are even some who are thought to have not yet discovered how to create fire) you may be surprised by how they behave.

Frankly, I am bored of games and other media setting a story in one period, but changing the culture and characters to make them comport with the cultural norms of the present.

I believe that if you are going to set a game in the Harry Potter universe then every reasonable step should be taken to remain faithful to the Harry Potter universe. If you keep changing and removing things to suit the whims of the current culture, before long you will have something that does not resemble the Harry Potter universe at all.

[Violent Rainbow]

Just give him a sock and he'll bugger off