Heard Hogwarts Legacy have transgender included now. Is that true?

[AnHonestSoul]

Got curious because of several posts mentioning it. Been following the games' direction since its development got announced. Was really disappointed for the game not including any form of coop or multiplayer, would have loved to play this game together with my wife. We had hopes for a change in terms of the addition of any kind of multiplayer so I tracked forums, reddit, etc. Yet, something completely unrelated to multiplayer got added instead. Completely...

Several generations grew up with Harry Potter. If it wasn't for the books, then people grew fans with the IP by watching the movies. Kids growing up to become mighty wizards and witches. Becoming either the good or the bad ones. Romances always got that innocent touch fitting just right to the age of the characters. Nothing overtuned, nothing perverted, nothing over the top, nothing like in Game of Thrones or anything else in the modern day.

Now there seemed to be some kind of internet campaign directed towards and against J.K. Rowling. Not everyone has to accept or like what happens in the world or who prefers what in their bedroom. Yet, this LGBTQ+ community looks like they started this mess of a bullying campaign towards J.K. Rowling, the developers of this game, and even directed at fans not being part of their sexual community just for not sharing the same view. Going a step further and trying to boycott everything that has J.K.'s name or made up fantasy IP on it, while also "forcing sexual acceptance" everywhere.

This game is rated for the age of 12. Kids in this age are still in their growing up phase with sexuality not being a thing. Not even able to understand. Sexuality in a game made for kids in the first place!

In all honesty... With all due respect... WTF and just WHY does any kind of sexuality have to be added in a game that was always doing just fine without all that modern political "forcing acceptence" propaganda bs? I was never homophobic or transphobic or racist or whatever else there is. I always had just as much respect for you as for anyone else who was viewed at as a "normal" person in their culture and country. But this got out of hand with me slowly growing angry about those of you who think you just have to change people's mind by FORCE.

Bullying, forcing, insulting, and what not is not the way to grow acceptance! Thats how you grow hate. This is not a defensive way. This is aggression. This is not rightous. This is bad. This is not tolerance. This is ignorance. This is not a game. This has become a sexual and political tool. What was once a good part in the childhoods of us in the past, you turn into something really bitter, hateful, and to avoid for those kids in the present who just want to be a mage in a fantasy world. Speaking about kids here, that don't even understand any sexuality or politics related stuff in the first place. Adults, that don't want to have anything to do with all of this. And fans, that don't want to have their IP ruined by anything and anyone who tries to reinvent the wheel.

Me and my wife were really hyped for this game. For everything that made everything around Harry Potter that wonderful fantasy world we grew up with. But everyone involved, starting from the inventor, the developers of the game, and even the fans themselves turned into victims of a perverted political extortion campaign. We always have respect for everyone in the LGBTQ+ communities. What you are doing here though got out of control.


You became the bully that you once tried defending against!

Life, is what you make it.

[MJAndre]

headlesscyborg eredeti hozzászólása:

Yep, I'm not buying nor supporting anything that is trying to make being a trans "normal". If you have a desire to become one, do it, but I don't think we - the normal people - have to be dragged into this ♥♥♥♥.
Fortunately there's also RE4, Last of US and other great games coming out this year,

...The Last of Us, huh? Oh did nobody tell you Ellie is a lesbian? And Abby is trans? Also Frank and Bill are gay lovers?

[Wolf576]

-Reilley eredeti hozzászólása:

"Trans kids" you are a sick individual, stay the hell away from people's kids with your ideology that leads to genital mutilation and life of medication.

This is why people hate you, not some irrational fear, the demand to be represented everywhere.

You play pretend at being "marginalised" but every major corporation and institution pushes your belief system on people. People get fired for refusing to play into your nonesensical identity.

I'm very much a live and let live sort of guy which is why I feel it's a civic duty to push back against you, as a group you are tyrants who force your will onto others.

hahahahaha "claims live and let live".....couple pixels later "claims it's a civic duty " to do the exact opposite. You're really taking this personally aren't you.

No contradiction at all, I'm live an let live, the problem is the "pro trans" side are tyrants who won't let people live, unironic fascists who want the state, corporation or whatever power structure they can get to do thier bidding to censor/arrest anyone who disagrees.

Here in the UK there are prominent 'terfs' and whilst I despise femanists I side with them because the people on the other side are violent, they will hold up signs asking for Thier ideological opponents to be decapitated. They shut down events and do everything in Thier power to get people fired or remove Thier ability to earn money.

Live and let live only works when both sides play ball, one side here plainly doesn't.

[SAF]

90% of the world thinks trans is a mental disorder, I'll buy this game when it's 5 bucks, moving on.

[Bison Zabi]

Never bend the knee to unreasonable people. To them, this is more about JK Rowling, Moment you start groveling to them, they'll increase their demands and increase their temper tantrums.

[Tr0w]

chair65 eredeti hozzászólása:

Tr0w eredeti hozzászólása:

The dialogue is written entirely around the non binary community, you won't hear the words he or she in the game, everyone is referred to as they and them. It makes a lot of the dialogue in cutscenes feel unnatural and awkward.

harry potter fans when something is grammatically correct

It's not how people speak in the UK.

[Kalgert]

Tr0w eredeti hozzászólása:

chair65 eredeti hozzászólása:

harry potter fans when something is grammatically correct

It's not how people speak in the UK.

It's always amusing people saying it is "Grammatically correct", only to ignore that it doesn't sound like natural speech.

Especially if you are talking to someone about another person, calling 'em a "They", only for the third person to be standing right next to the two.

[Cat]

There is one and she sounds nothing like any trans woman I've ever met, other than that it's fine but it does come across as a "we had to make sure she sounds trans" decision was made somewhere along the line. In fact I'd go so far as to argue she doesn't quite sound human, it's like they did something to the voice.

[AnHonestSoul]

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

As a trans-woman and a member of the LGBTQ+ community, I understand where your frustrations are coming from. However, I strongly disagree with your views and the way you present your argument.

You do you.

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

First of all, it's important to acknowledge that representation matters, especially for marginalized communities.

No. Absolutely not. Representation doesn't matter. Only if you care about famous for something. The problem though is, this community works towards becoming infamous. Why? Because once your representation is missing somewhere, and as soon as someone says something against your community, sh*tstorms, death threats, and rape threats happen. This is not an exception anymore. Its the rule now. Speaking about representation. These fowl apples belong to the LGBTQ+ community. They are proud of this. They are proud. its not about representation of a minority. Its about pride. And itts about forcing it everywhere possible.

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

Including a transgender character in a popular game like Hogwarts Legacy is a step in the right direction in terms of promoting visibility and acceptance of the transgender community.

its visible indeed. But as you might have already noticed, acceptance is not what you achieve. Instead, a lot of hate around the world is what happened. So lets not confuse hate with acceptance. I feel your need to be accepted. But acceptance can never be achieved by force. Liberty. Liberty means freedom. You are free. I am free. I wouldn't want my politcal view or my sexual view getting represented, just because I fail to follow the rules of the country I live in. A lot of problems of people around the world try changing laws, views and religions that were there long before anyone of us learned how to walk and talk. There are many injustices happening everywhere. We are not living a perfect world. What matters is justice. But 2 wrongs don't make a right.

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

This is especially important for kids who are growing up and may be struggling with their identity, as they will now see themselves represented in a fantasy world they love.

Lets kids be kids. Let kids grow up. Kids struggling with identity is not something a game causes. Or a game can solve. It doesn't help the slighest. The ingame character is talking about his own identity crisis. This causes more confusion, if anything. I ask you: Does a kid within an identity crisis need a ingame representation of a fellow sufferer? Or does it need empathy, love, and a real helping hand?

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

Secondly, it's incorrect to assume that including a transgender character in a game is a form of political extortion. The LGBTQ+ community is not trying to "force acceptance" but rather seeking equal representation and visibility in all aspects of society, including media and entertainment.

Any of the criminal LGBTQ+ community reactions towards J.K. would be worth mentioning again at this point. Take a short look at what happens in these forums. How that community speaks. Comparing the devs with J.K. . This vendetta against J.K. became a vendetta against the game devs. Do you really think the LGBTQ+ wouldn't do the same thing to these devs too? Do you really think the devs included the transgender character just to make you happy? Wouldn't it be more likely for them to just wanna develop their game in peace? To feel safe? And to sleep well? Without having to fear death, rape, and the like? Is this what you wanted? Fear? And hate?

Because this what has become of it. This is whats visible.

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

Lastly, it's not accurate to say that the inclusion of a transgender character is ruining the Harry Potter franchise or the childhood memories of its fans. The franchise has always had a message of acceptance and diversity, and adding a transgender character is simply continuing this theme.

Transgender characters weren't a part in this IP to begin with. Has nothing to do with what kind of message you feel the franchise sent you. The problem here is ignorance. Even if you think it sends you a message of acceptance and diversity doesn't mean the IP shall become a collection of all sort of sexualities. You already have Game of Thrones for that. Another example: Star Trek, where transgender (sort of) were there from the very beginning. I wouldn't want to have that taken away from Star Trek. It is known to literally send every message possible. Yet the same is simply not true for the HP universe. It goes more into the childhood innocence direction. It never needed transgender, it doesn't help, and it just doesn't fit into this fantasy world made for innocent kids.

Let kids be kids.

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

In conclusion, I believe that inclusion and representation are important for promoting acceptance and understanding of different communities. The inclusion of a transgender character in Hogwarts Legacy is a positive step towards creating a more inclusive and accepting world.

Parents are who have to teach about acceptance. Parents are who have to teach about sexuality. Parents are who have to teach about manner. Not Hogwarts!

Hogwarts, is where magic is tought.

[C]

AnHonestSoul eredeti hozzászólása:

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

As a trans-woman and a member of the LGBTQ+ community, I understand where your frustrations are coming from. However, I strongly disagree with your views and the way you present your argument.

You do you.

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

First of all, it's important to acknowledge that representation matters, especially for marginalized communities.

No. Absolutely not. Representation doesn't matter. Only if you care about famous for something. The problem though is, this community works towards becoming infamous. Why? Because once your representation is missing somewhere, and as soon as someone says something against your community, sh*tstorms, death threats, and rape threats happen. This is not an exception anymore. Its the rule now. Speaking about representation. These fowl apples belong to the LGBTQ+ community. They are proud of this. They are proud. its not about representation of a minority. Its about pride. And itts about forcing it everywhere possible.

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

Including a transgender character in a popular game like Hogwarts Legacy is a step in the right direction in terms of promoting visibility and acceptance of the transgender community.

its visible indeed. But as you might have already noticed, acceptance is not what you achieve. Instead, a lot of hate around the world is what happened. So lets not confuse hate with acceptance. I feel your need to be accepted. But acceptance can never be achieved by force. Liberty. Liberty means freedom. You are free. I am free. I wouldn't want my politcal view or my sexual view getting represented, just because I fail to follow the rules of the country I live in. A lot of problems of people around the world try changing laws, views and religions that were there long before anyone of us learned how to walk and talk. There are many injustices happening everywhere. We are not living a perfect world. What matters is justice. But 2 wrongs don't make a right.

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

This is especially important for kids who are growing up and may be struggling with their identity, as they will now see themselves represented in a fantasy world they love.

Lets kids be kids. Let kids grow up. Kids struggling with identity is not something a game causes. Or a game can solve. It doesn't help the slighest. The ingame character is talking about his own identity crisis. This causes more confusion, if anything. I ask you: Does a kid within an identity crisis need a ingame representation of a fellow sufferer? Or does it need empathy, love, and a real helping hand?

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

Secondly, it's incorrect to assume that including a transgender character in a game is a form of political extortion. The LGBTQ+ community is not trying to "force acceptance" but rather seeking equal representation and visibility in all aspects of society, including media and entertainment.

Any of the criminal LGBTQ+ community reactions towards J.K. would be worth mentioning again at this point. Take a short look at what happens in these forums. How that community speaks. Comparing the devs with J.K. . This vendetta against J.K. became a vendetta against the game devs. Do you really think the LGBTQ+ wouldn't do the same thing to these devs too? Do you really think the devs included the transgender character just to make you happy? Wouldn't it be more likely for them to just wanna develop their game in peace? To feel safe? And to sleep well? Without having to fear death, rape, and the like? Is this what you wanted? Fear? And hate?

Because this what has become of it. This is whats visible.

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

Lastly, it's not accurate to say that the inclusion of a transgender character is ruining the Harry Potter franchise or the childhood memories of its fans. The franchise has always had a message of acceptance and diversity, and adding a transgender character is simply continuing this theme.

Transgender characters weren't a part in this IP to begin with. Has nothing to do with what kind of message you feel the franchise sent you. The problem here is ignorance. Even if you think it sends you a message of acceptance and diversity doesn't mean the IP shall become a collection of all sort of sexualities. You already have Game of Thrones for that. Another example: Star Trek, where transgender (sort of) were there from the very beginning. I wouldn't want to have that taken away from Star Trek. It is known to literally send every message possible. Yet the same is simply not true for the HP universe. It goes more into the childhood innocence direction. It never needed transgender, it doesn't help, and it just doesn't fit into this fantasy world made for innocent kids.

Let kids be kids.

hareymon1 eredeti hozzászólása:

In conclusion, I believe that inclusion and representation are important for promoting acceptance and understanding of different communities. The inclusion of a transgender character in Hogwarts Legacy is a positive step towards creating a more inclusive and accepting world.

Parents are who have to teach about acceptance. Parents are who have to teach about sexuality. Parents are who have to teach about manner. Not Hogwarts!

Hogwarts, is where magic is tought.

No it's not. It has trans characters now. Are you saying this Harry Potter game just suddenly doesn't count? Also, didn't you hear? Dumbledore is gay now. From the author herself! Man... I guess it's not about childhood innocence after all, that's a shame. Oh well.

[El lobo]

Dark Moon Felis eredeti hozzászólása:

Seriously, though, it's as easy as not giving a damn what's in other people's pants. It's not very hard to do. Get over it, the same way you don't care about people being cis or heterosexual in games.

It would be easy if it wasnt rubbed in everyones faces all the time. At this point I start to believe that the actual goal of the activists is to make the majority of the population hate trans people, as this is the natural end result of annoying people with something until they cant see it anymore.

We dont care if someone is trans, its not our business, so dont make it our business by rubbing it in our face all the time, while using it to destroy childhood ips.

[suboptimal]

Nova eredeti hozzászólása:

suboptimal eredeti hozzászólása:

Transfolk make up approx less than .05 of the population.

Less than 1/2 a percent.

and?

It's relevant data and context for those who want to have a rational, unemotional discussion around the issues.

Interestingly, ideologues from all angles will at times seize upon it as outright "proof" of their ideological agenda. Others have an even more irrational reaction and can tend to get very upset at such data even being introduced.

[PenguinOfTheSands]

Kalgert eredeti hozzászólása:

Especially if you are talking to someone about another person, calling 'em a "They", only for the third person to be standing right next to the two.

I love how you LITERALLY used a variation of the singular "they/them" while arguing that the singular "they/them" doesn't sound natural, without even realizing it.

[themollusk45]

TLDR but yeah, there is a ton of work spent on the game trying to placate the 0.5% of awful toxic folk that tried to cancel JK Rowling and Dave Chappelle. Unsurprisingly, the toxic and vocal 0.5% is still not happy.

[iHATEtheANTICHRIST]

Firstly, thinking you can choose your pronouns is just as foolish as thinking you can choose your adjectives.

"My adjectives are beautiful/smart/funny. If you don't say these things about me when you are talking about me, then you are a violent bigot."

Yes, this is how insane you people sound to normal people. I refuse to capitulate and placate. Luckily, we have modders that love modding, and its only a matter of time before us players get to fully customize our games the way we want to, and none of us ever have to talk about this crap again.

Secondly, is it so bad to want a video game without obvious political tension oozing from it? When the groundskeeper called me, a "gentleperson," I got immediately taken out of the experience of being immersed in this world, because THAT TERM DIDN'T EXIST IN 1880. Good Lord, imagine being so thin skinned you can't handle hearing the words, "ladies and gentlemen."

Lastly, if the devs wanted to implement this modern stuff into the game, why not write the plot and characters to take place in 2020's??? or the distant future??? It's not like the wizards and witches like muggle tech anyway, so I don't see how it would effect the lore or world at all....Truthfully, I don't think I would have been half as annoyed at this game if it didn't take place in 1880's, because its not how the world was back then. If so many people hate the past so much, then stop making stories about the past; look to the future and leave the past alone if you hate it so much instead of trying to rewrite it and change it.

History is doomed to repeat itself, especially if you just erase what happened because it hurts your feelings. It's so sad a lot of you guys can't see that.

[PenguinOfTheSands]

iHATEtheANTICHRIST eredeti hozzászólása:

Yes, this is how insane you people sound to normal people.

Has unironic youtube links to TV evangelists talking about how God created the universe and that evolution is wrong, in their bio.

Right... "us normal people"