Is this game attempting to do too much?

[Dragon Master]

I've already got this preordered on my xbox because I know I'm going to play it, but thinking about the game has caused me a few concerns.

Now, as we know it's a single-player action rpg that it is safe to say that there are a few things the developers can focus on. They can go the old Bioware approach (not modern Bioware) where story, companions and characters have the focus and everyone is excited about the story, the companions and the in depth moments we can have with them. The experience is deep, has plenty of depth but is largely linear. You have the same companions, the sequence of events are the same to get from point A to B, but how you approach them may change.

They can also go the Bethesda approach, where games like Oblivion, Skyrim or Fallout, the focus is on the exploration in a sandbox, you can be whoever you want to be but don't expect much depth in the quests (save for a few standouts) or the characters. The focus is on doing cool things, developing yourself to be awesome, pick a companion (who is generally one-note in personality) that you either tolerate or like and take them with you on your quest, with factions existing to let you live out a fantasy or a trope, each with its own story for you to explore. Effectively the content is wide as an ocean but deep as a puddle.

However, it looks like Avalanche is trying to do a combination of both these styles. They showed off 3 companions we can have, with a larger emphasis on Sebastian Sallow more recently. They showed off the dialogue. They announced dozens of spells and abilities we can use to define our own combat style, it looks like there is a set story with Ranroc and the Goblin Rebellions while also emphasizing the exploration of Hogwarts and the areas around and outside it.

If Avalanche can pull this off I think it will be amazing. However, I am curious if either the exploration or the companions/story will suffer because so much is being attempted at once.

What does everyone else think. Are the developers trying to do too much based on what we've seen or am I just being paranoid?

[PocketYoda]

Nope not enough in the grand scheme of things.

[Antiga]

Look at how incredibly limiting games are nowadays. Everything is spoon fed to us in little steps and every such step is presented like some grand new innovation. Genre breaking. Revolutionary.

♥♥♥♥ off OP. (No offence intended) Undoubtedly this is an ambitious project, but most of it is just generic drab we've all seen before. Not that this curbs my enthusiasm. But ultimately, developers could do so much more. They consciously don't. And it's because of people like you (I'm not innocent myself) who praise anything slightly above par to high heavens making developers think they can get away with the bare minimum. Which they consistently do. So when a project like this arrives that seems to go past this bare minimum, look at us all flock to it like the sheep we are.
As I said, I am excited for this as well, but I try not to see it as some kind of gift from the gods that almost cannot be.

[werwolfgaming]

Originally posted by Antiga:

Look at how incredibly limiting games are nowadays. Everything is spoon fed to us in little steps and every such step is presented like some grand new innovation. Genre breaking. Revolutionary.

♥♥♥♥ off OP. (No offence intended) Undoubtedly this is an ambitious project, but most of it is just generic drab we've all seen before. Not that this curbs my enthusiasm. But ultimately, developers could do so much more. They consciously don't. And it's because of people like you (I'm not innocent myself) who praise anything slightly above par to high heavens making developers think they can get away with the bare minimum. Which they consistently do. So when a project like this arrives that seems to go past this bare minimum, look at us all flock to it like the sheep we are.
As I said, I am excited for this as well, but I try not to see it as some kind of gift from the gods that almost cannot be.

Neither did op lol they asking if they doing too much or focusing on 2 diffrent stuff instead off 1 did u even read the original post? For ur info the devs for this game are huge harry potter fans and is doing thair all to make even the smallest things put into the game every mentioned area they wanna represent, even areas never seen before

[Death's Design]

I think the game being great will depend on a few things.

1. Budget
2. Next gen/pc exclusivity
3. Development team

We need to know their budget in order to know if they are being too ambitious or not. Also them stretching the game thin to release on old hardware, will just limit their potential to make something truly ambitious. Development time does matter but it can also be very inconsistent, it will most likely come down to their budget and how "big/talented" their development team really is.

I definitely believe some aspects will be on the shallow side, but overall the game will probably turn out to be "good enough". Other than potential budget/last gen limitations, I don't see anything so far indicating that they are "doing too much". Let's just hope that they do not have platform issues like cyberpunk had. Also I really hope they create expansions later down the line.

[TheS1X]

It's like red dead redemption 2 I guess.

[Super King Big Nutz]

If we wind up getting what basically boils down to Bully with a Harry Potter skin, I'll be happy.

[Just Chill]

I hope they implement Quidditch matches at some point. :(
And before any developer could go full Todd Howard and troll us with real-life Quidditch, I mean Quidditch from the J. K. Rowling world.

Not this... ........... what the actual f?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quidditch_(real-life_sport)



Anyways, I am happy that they didn't implement it as of maybe just half-assing it.
But it could be a nice addition later, when properly implemented and taken care of.
For now... Let's hope the game fulfills what it promises.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Super King Big Nutz:

If we wind up getting what basically boils down to Bully with a Harry Potter skin, I'll be happy.

Why would you want to be a bully?

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Pocket Yoda:

Originally posted by Super King Big Nutz:

If we wind up getting what basically boils down to Bully with a Harry Potter skin, I'll be happy.

Why would you want to be a bully?

Have you played the game "Bully"?

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Pocket Yoda:

Why would you want to be a bully?

Have you played the game "Bully"?

No as someone who was bullied as a kid at school until i nearly commited suicide it never appealed.

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Pocket Yoda:

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Have you played the game "Bully"?

No as someone who was bullied as a kid at school until i nearly commited suicide it never appealed.

Okay.

The game's focus isn't being a bully so much as it is attending school in the worst school in the country, where all the tropey cliches for school make a home and all of them are bullies to some extent, and all of them have redeeming qualities that our main character can learn from and help them out.

You go to class, gain new skills and abilities as you do so, you get in trouble if you are caught skipping class, and there are a lot of places to explore and quests to do.

It goes through the seasons and is childish silly fun.

For example, if you regularly attend shop class, you get better and better bicycles for traveling, and eventually a moped. There are permanent buffs to your character by choosing to go to class, interact with the students and do the quests, such as helping some nerds (what they are actually called in-game) get their character sheets for a tabletop rpg that had been taken from them, or standing up to the street gangs in the school.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Pocket Yoda:

No as someone who was bullied as a kid at school until i nearly commited suicide it never appealed.

Okay.

The game's focus isn't being a bully so much as it is attending school in the worst school in the country, where all the tropey cliches for school make a home and all of them are bullies to some extent, and all of them have redeeming qualities that our main character can learn from and help them out.

You go to class, gain new skills and abilities as you do so, you get in trouble if you are caught skipping class, and there are a lot of places to explore and quests to do.

It goes through the seasons and is childish silly fun.

For example, if you regularly attend shop class, you get better and better bicycles for traveling, and eventually a moped. There are permanent buffs to your character by choosing to go to class, interact with the students and do the quests, such as helping some nerds (what they are actually called in-game) get their character sheets for a tabletop rpg that had been taken from them, or standing up to the street gangs in the school.

I understand all that thank you i was just responding to that guy above saying they wanted to play a bully, i asked why as most bullies are mentally unstable and have serious issues, why anyone sane would want to rpg that is beyond me.

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Pocket Yoda:

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Okay.

The game's focus isn't being a bully so much as it is attending school in the worst school in the country, where all the tropey cliches for school make a home and all of them are bullies to some extent, and all of them have redeeming qualities that our main character can learn from and help them out.

You go to class, gain new skills and abilities as you do so, you get in trouble if you are caught skipping class, and there are a lot of places to explore and quests to do.

It goes through the seasons and is childish silly fun.

For example, if you regularly attend shop class, you get better and better bicycles for traveling, and eventually a moped. There are permanent buffs to your character by choosing to go to class, interact with the students and do the quests, such as helping some nerds (what they are actually called in-game) get their character sheets for a tabletop rpg that had been taken from them, or standing up to the street gangs in the school.

I understand all that thank you i was just responding to that guy above saying they wanted to play a bully, i asked why as most bullies are mentally unstable and have serious issues, why anyone sane would want to rpg that is beyond me.

I think you misunderstood them. They weren’t saying they want to be a bully. They were saying the gameplay to be like the game Bully.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Pocket Yoda:

I understand all that thank you i was just responding to that guy above saying they wanted to play a bully, i asked why as most bullies are mentally unstable and have serious issues, why anyone sane would want to rpg that is beyond me.

I think you misunderstood them. They weren’t saying they want to be a bully. They were saying the gameplay to be like the game Bully.

I see ok then, Bully was not a fun game. I actually do think i played it, if i remember correctly, its an older game.

[Super King Big Nutz]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Pocket Yoda:

I understand all that thank you i was just responding to that guy above saying they wanted to play a bully, i asked why as most bullies are mentally unstable and have serious issues, why anyone sane would want to rpg that is beyond me.

I think you misunderstood them. They weren’t saying they want to be a bully. They were saying the gameplay to be like the game Bully.

Thank you for trying to explain, as you obviously got what I was saying...although, to be honest? I'm, like, 98% sure the guy was just taking the piss with us...well, maybe 96%.