What's a decently quick way to get Zen?

[Snydergate]

I need some suggestions for getting Zen quick. I know about the dilithium exchange, any other way? I don't want to just buy it with real money either.

[Oberon]

Dilithium exchange, and real money. Those are your only options.

[Oneman728]

from PW site you can earn by survey or signing up for things. The Bigger Payouts usually involve a CC or a purchase with a CC. Some involve downloading a piece of software(if you do that be sure to read what it is some are bad news.)

[AbsynthMinded]

Occasionally you may find a exploit to gather lot's of Dilithium, but refining is capped, PWE is all about getting your money, don't doubt it for one second. F2P is a functional model only if you can nickle and dime your population daily.

[Wobby]

O god the comments lol. If u want zen just get it from the PWE site ( gives bonus Zen, trough steam wallet u wont get bonus Zen )

DO NOT DO THE SURVEY'S 99/100 they dont work, and all u get is spammed in your mail box. They are a hoax. Most people agree on it.

Playing all 3 the games, does NOT boost your collection at all. ( I am not sure what the hell is wrong with some of the people answering u) STO , Champions and Neverwinter have a seperate system, u can not trade Zen around from 1 game to the other.

and 3th, u can refine 8k per day, however u can have way more unrefinned so just save it up. Also if your a vet, there is a veteran reward for 2k extra refining.

Btw F2P means its FREE TO PLAY. U dont need zen at all, so please dont listen to some of these baboons... there just complaining for nothing.

[Oberon]

Początkowo opublikowane przez AbsynthMinded:

Occasionally you may find a exploit to gather lot's of Dilithium, but refining is capped, PWE is all about getting your money, don't doubt it for one second. F2P is a functional model only if you can nickle and dime your population daily.

There's nothing about what they're doing that even remotely qualifies as "nickel-and-diming." The fact that you don't need to pay a single cent at all is proof of that.

[AbsynthMinded]

Time = Money. If you want to spend no money getting anywhere takes alot of extra time. You spend money, even a little, things get easier and move faster.

[Oberon]

Początkowo opublikowane przez AbsynthMinded:

Time = Money. If you want to spend no money getting anywhere takes alot of extra time. You spend money, even a little, things get easier and move faster.

No, time isn't money, people just use that when they can't logically complain about an F2P system, but want to complain anyway. If your time was so precious as to be equal to money, then you should probably stop playing video games and go do whatever it is that makes your time so valuable

[AbsynthMinded]

Well I like my time enough to occasionally spend money, to avoid elements that I dislike. Because they waste my time, in my estimation.

[Dbrn]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Melvin, the Lord of Darkness:

Początkowo opublikowane przez AbsynthMinded:

Time = Money. If you want to spend no money getting anywhere takes alot of extra time. You spend money, even a little, things get easier and move faster.

No, time isn't money, people just use that when they can't logically complain about an F2P system, but want to complain anyway. If your time was so precious as to be equal to money, then you should probably stop playing video games and go do whatever it is that makes your time so valuable

Time absolutely is money, it's a crucial part of capitalism and economics. There is no instance where you can say that it doesn't equal money. Most if not all people value their time and if they can't put a monetary value on it, someone else will and abuse it accordingly. It's THE biggest reason F2P models are successful. These games do not stay afloat because of the people playing the game for free. They stay afloat because of all the people that want things done faster and are willing to pay for it to be done so. How do these people pay? By spending their time earning money or using money gained by someone else spending their time earning money. You can earn everything by spending the extra time of course but that is not free, that costs time. The only thing that is free is access to the game server, from then on it costs time. Time that could be spending doing something that produces revenue. Not only that, these digital items can be purchased with MONEY or by spending extra TIME. Thus TIME = MONEY, if it didn't, you could only buy these items with money and not earn them with time.

Nothing in life is free, everything has a cost, whether it costs YOU time or money or costs someone else time or money, it costs someone somewhere resources, material or otherwise.

[Oberon]

Wow, time really does equal money? Let me just go down to the store and buy food for my family by paying in time. Can they make change for an hour, I wonder?

[Dethode]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Melvin, the Lord of Darkness:

Wow, time really does equal money? Let me just go down to the store and buy food for my family by paying in time. Can they make change for an hour, I wonder?

zing

[AbsynthMinded]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dethode:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Melvin, the Lord of Darkness:

Wow, time really does equal money? Let me just go down to the store and buy food for my family by paying in time. Can they make change for an hour, I wonder?

zing

zang zoom?

The time I spend working a comfortable technical job, affords me the money to buy groceries, so I dont have to spend my time farming.

[Oberon]

Początkowo opublikowane przez AbsynthMinded:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dethode:

zing

zang zoom?

The time I spend working a comfortable technical job, affords me the money to buy groceries, so I dont have to spend my time farming.

So do you just sit there at a desk? Or do you actually do something?

Time does not equal money, in the same way a cup of hot water doesn't equal soup. What you do during that time gives it value. Effort is the key here, effort, more than anything, equals money. And sitting around playing a video game doesn't take that much effort.

[AbsynthMinded]

I really do not understand the reason to debate this, it is a fundamental fact of civilization. Its like denying snow is water.

[Shinny Shin Shindeiru]

Quickest way to get zen is to buy it. If you're too good for or don't get paid enough to consider that option there's always the free offers on the perfect world site if you have the five seconds to find it.