Most unstable game ever played

[Clyde]

This game is nay unplayable on Mac. Attempting to run this on a 2013 27in iMac and it constantly crashes at random points. Just trying to change a uniform results in game crash. Walk around Starbase, game crash. Try to fly to a new sector game crashes during load.

If they aren't even gonna be bothered to make a stable version for Mac OS then seriously don't bother. Better no access then access to crap.

[jconan7777777]

i don't even have a great pc and can play this(though it has been worse since the last update), but i don't think you'll find many apple players in the crowd.

[Clyde]

OS 10.9
8 GB Ram
Intel Quad core i5 3.2 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB


STO minimum requirements
OS 10.7.5 (3 yr old OS)
4GB RAM
Intel Core 2 Duo (8 yr old processor)
NVIDIA 9600M 512MB (6 yr old graphics card)

As I stated before I did not buy a computer to play games, but I do play some. I expect that games which claim far lower requirments than my system should at least function. No I didn't set everything to maximum in game.

[Vepar]

Note: Those are minimum system requirements. Meaning play everything on low on a PC to get a decent framerate.

Triple that for a MAC because of the way the OS works and the lack of DirectX and other drivers that enable faster GFX procesing and better utilizing and you'll have yourself a minimum system requierments for a MAC... Or you could just have bad graphics drivers for your card. Are they proprietary (nvidia's?) or something apple put in there to make your GFX card work?

Try lowering the settings even further or playing with them one by one because some could cause an issue because it's incompatibile with your type of system. It could be something stupid like anti aliasing or some other (of many) settings you can change and your game will work fine.

I had this type of problem a few years ago in a different game. Turns out that the "transparency" setting was causing the crashes and as soon as i turned that off the game worked fine...

[Itsgolden]

MACs are over hyped crap just like all apple products, save yourself the grief and get a PC, not the 1st time i;ve browsed the discussions and people complaining about their macs and games..

[5n4k3d0cToR]

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What, and an "upgraded top of the line iMac for professional graphic work" isn't a multi-thousand dollar computer? :P

If you need it for professional work, fine, but you should know that those computers aren't meant for gaming. They're meant for multimedia (no matter how much pro work you can do on them). So if you don't bother to buy a computer that is meant for gaming then don't complain.

Macs are not for games. And if i'm correct, iMac is the one where everything is built in the monitor? That thing overheats and the graphic card probably shares memory with the RAM and what not... It's fine for graphics programs but games are alot more demanding.

But even if there is a port of a certain game it'll probably run very bad (despite how good/bad the programming is) because the hardware and the OS work that way.

If it's not made by Apple, it probably won't work well on a Mac. Hell, my friend has a Mac and Adobe Premiere and After Effects crash all the time on that thing.

But i do agree with you on the game probably being just poorly ported, but Mac is hardly a platform of choice for gamers so no one bothers that much with it because it's not a big market for them. They need to make sure the PC version works well. Mac and other systems come second. ;)

+1

I mean when everything is said and done. Its a Mac. There not made for gaming, if the OP did any research on Macs he would have know this.

Sounds like a Casual game player that just doesnt know about Mac/PC's in general, went and bought a new MAC, thinking it would play any game he so wished.

@OP, can you tell me your system specs at least? The factory labels on a box say nothing to what the machine is running.

Well said mates +1. Ive been saying this for years to work colleagues & some family members. Sadly some are still unable to fathom...

P.S

Always take 'minimum specs' with a pinch of salt mate. Its an industry wide accepted notion. Minimum specs is exactly that=barebones minimal settings. Even then it will struggle in most cases, especially where multiplayer environment is concerned. My brother has a rule. Mac for work, 'proper' PC for other things. I have a rule too. No Mac's.... Each to their own though mate :).

[Vepar]

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I have a rule too. No Mac's.... Each to their own though mate :).

That's my rule too...
For the price of an average Mac i could buy a bufffed up PC that doubles both for work and gaming. I really don't understand what's so great about "Mac for work". Unless you specifically use Apple's software for work, you don't need a Mac.

Why anyone would pay so much money to have a computer "only for work" when you can buy a PC that's twice as powerful for the same amount of money is beyond me...

But anyway... To OP's question, Macs are never going to be good for games. There are a few that work ok on Macs, but as far as gaming is concerned, i'd wager Linux is going to be a better platform for games than Macs are now and in the future...

[Awesomesauce]

BWAHHHAAHAH, this guy cannot be serious!!!

im not even gonna start. just know that i agree with most of the sensible people here.

[Kitsune Aoi]

Only thing I can say is there are enough bugs that pop up on the PC version any time they do larger content updates and they probably place the priority on them since most players use pc instead of mac. You also have to factor in that since they are mostly pc that any mac users will have the bugs caused by cross platform coding making things worse for the mac user. Cryptic is not a company that has used the mac clients for long as they only released it this last March until then they have been doing PC only on STO and there is pobably alot of conflicting code in there especially after the Upgrade system update just over a week ago.. Try playing it in windowed mode ( I use maximized windowed on PC for the DX11 to allow my 1920x1080 res on the 32" LCD TV) not sure if they have the windowed maximized for Mac as our IMac in the house is too old to even run SC 2 on it graphics card wise. Even my AMD Laptop and my Backup Desktop that is min requiremnts run it no problem on min settings. I would say Make sure all your software/drivers are right up to date, That the Mac isn't running too hot and that the drive isn't fragmented or cluttered. Not really knowledgable on Mac but I can get around on one. I mostly build and repair/maintain PC systems/networks for Friends, and family.

[xoagray]

For those having lockups in full screen, this isn't a fix, but holding Command+Option+Escape should force close the application, (preferable to holding the power button down and rebooting).

With the number of posts on line about this issue, you'd think that Perfect World would have given it some attention by now. Personally I didn't start having this happen till more recenlty, but there are posts going back to late last year with frequent crashing on Mac.

[New_Gadgets]

thats easy to fix, get a real computer. there problem solved : )

[times05]

Can't you dual boot windows on Macs nowadays? I know it's a pain for some random game, but it's also a pain to code for multiple OSes. Plus it's not just coding, it's also testing and getting rid of bugs. PC player base is much larger, hence more testing (including player testing) has been done there. That's how more bugs sneak through to Apple (assuming there even is a native STO for it and you're not running it in some emulator which would open a whole other can of worms).

[xoagray]

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Can't you dual boot windows on Macs nowadays? I know it's a pain for some random game, but it's also a pain to code for multiple OSes. Plus it's not just coding, it's also testing and getting rid of bugs. PC player base is much larger, hence more testing (including player testing) has been done there. That's how more bugs sneak through to Apple (assuming there even is a native STO for it and you're not running it in some emulator which would open a whole other can of worms).

Yes, you can run Windows on a Mac, but that's not really a fix, it's running the Windows version on a Mac.

Yes, there is a Mac client, that's what this therad is about. We're not running an emulator, we're running the officially released Mac client from Cryptic / Perfect world. It just happens that the official Mac client is pretty bad.

Switching to Windows doesn't fix anything. Speaking for what I believe is most of us on this thread who are Mac owners, what we want most is some dialog with the devs,so that we can give constructive feedback, error logs if any, and try to get the Mac client up to scratch. Or at least some acknoledgement that the Mac version is being worked on.

For the record I also own a PC that runs Windows and do play STO on there, but am a fan of all three major OS's (Windows, Mac, and LInux) and support any effort from a developer to expand beyond the Windows platform.

[Ceejay]

Not even sure the devs even check steam often, You may have better luck Sticking a ticket in.
https://support.arcgames.com/app/games/detail/p/100/c/36

However as it appears lots of people are having issues with the native mac version, perhaps your only real option would be to use bootcamp, though granted this does not fix the issue with your mac version it will let you play sto more stable.

How well does wine play it?

[xoagray]

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Not even sure the devs even check steam often, You may have better luck Sticking a ticket in.
https://support.arcgames.com/app/games/detail/p/100/c/36

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I'll give that a shot, thanks. :)

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However as it appears lots of people are having issues with the native mac version, perhaps your only real option would be to use bootcamp, though granted this does not fix the issue with your mac version it will let you play sto more stable.

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I have a windows machine I can play it on. (see my other comment) but my interest is in getting the Mac client up to snuff.

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How well does wine play it?

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On Linux, it does pretty well. I haven't tried that on Mac yet, but this also goes around the issue that the Mac client needs help. Everyone is coming up with alternatives, which is fine, but I'm sure what we'd all rather see is the official client working well. That's not going to happen if everyone just stops using it and goes over to getting the windows version to work in one way or another. All that does is send a clear message to Cryptic / Perfect World that everyone is using the Windows version, and they should spend even less time worrying about a Mac client.
Hopefully the efforts of all the people that are standing by the Mac client can encourage them to fix it proper. (I can dream right? LOL)

[MrOkieDokie]

mac = fail
pc > phone > caculator > mac...
but i admit they are so shiny =o