HOW DO I GET THIS DANG OBELISK CARRIER!?

[Jimmy Havel]

i played the level where i got to use it, im hooked, how do i get it, im part of a top level fleet

[Formous]

Originally posted by 96VintageNerd96:

i played the level where i got to use it, im hooked, how do i get it, im part of a top level fleet

Simple. To get the most availible version, you need I think 1 fleet module and go to your fleet's Spire holding. Guy there sells it. It isn't too expensive, and it's fun. Also, go to the mission again if you intend to get it. In the room where you view all the planets, follow the path straight up to the big main computer. Once there, call everyone up, then go back down the path again. Go down each alternative symbol path in reverse order you found them in, and go down, read each terminal until you reach the first one you encounter which talks about a war warhouse. Once you do, a container will open with 2 Advanced free Obelisk carrier pets, mind they are exclusive to the ship but damn good ones.

[Jimmy Havel]

thank you! i will do that!

[uni790]

Or if you have the spare Lobies you can get the version with the special console, I don't think the fleet version comes with it.

[Firewalk]

Just to clarify:

Version 1 (uni called it fleet version which I find confusing) is the same ship you flew in the mission. You CANNOT upgrade this ship to Tier 5U, so I would HIGHLY suggest you DO NOT get this ship. It's a waste of fleet modules, seriously you are gonna hate yourself once you figure this out and what it means (no extra console, no mastery levels and no scaling HP).

Version 2 (the advanced version) is from the lobi store. This one you either buy there for 800 lobi and then upgrade it (for free) or you buy it from the exchange.

Point being, if you want an endgame capable ship and it has to be this one, get the advanced version. Yes, it costs a lot more but its better to begin with and comes with an upgrade option that the lower version lacks.

[Serious Dave]

Ok, here's the thing, the obelisk isn't particulary good.
It can do mostly engineering and some sci support support but that's pretty much it.

-playing a focus on tactical is a no-go
terrible maneuverability (srsly it's one of the worst bricks in the game), only 6 weapon slots, lack of tac consoles (yeah 3 at 5u but still only with 6 weapons), and you can't slot tac skills over lt. thanks to the seating.

-sci is also rather bad
while it does have a fancy lt.cmdr. and some universals but it only has 3 sci consoles which won't bring you very far. Also again it turns like a whale, most sci skills have a foward arc and require some degree of maneuverability, which it dosen't have

If you're looking for awesome carriers go for the tholian recluse, jem'hadar dread or xindi aquatic dread or the breen carrier which we will probably see december again.

[AbsynthMinded]

The Jen'Hadar carrier is tuff as nails. It can take an Elite Crystaline Entity hit and come out at 20% hull before heals and regen.

[uni790]

Originally posted by N3MES1S:

Originally posted by Serious Dave:

If you're looking for awesome carriers go for the tholian recluse, jem'hadar dread or xindi aquatic dread or the breen carrier which we will probably see december again.

The Breen Carrier is an excelent choice, but ONLY if you plan to use other pets than the ones that comes with it, or any breen pet. They are bugged. I dont know if it happens with other pets, but i am in the process of replacing my breen carrier because it is ridiculous having pets that basically do nothing lol. I only gathered that carrier for the breen pets lol. And since my character is klingon and science.. im just waiting (an eternity it feels) to a proper carrier for him.

I dont like the Narcine (too ugly and too skinny, hell how can you put any pet inside that?), i could go for the jem but it is not science focused, and i already have the recluse in other character. So i am really screwed up lol.

I haven't had any issue with the Breen pets, they work just as well as any other hanger pet, other then they try to ram the target when their HP falls under half, and they don't even have the skill to do so.

[Vellari]

Originally posted by N3MES1S:

Everytime you summon em or you change the command they get stuck without doing nothing... happens in every breen carrier using the raiders as hangar.

Hmm, don't have that issue myself (advanced raiders).

[uni790]

Originally posted by N3MES1S:

Im talking about the Breen Raiders, not the little ones (i dont have any idea if the little ones are broken as well). The frigates will get stuck without doing nothing for a couple of minutes, then they will move really slooooowly to your position and so on. Everytime you summon em or you change the command they get stuck without doing nothing... happens in every breen carrier using the raiders as hangar.

Haven't seen them get stuck, I've only got the basic ones, they do move slowly, and ignore commands occasionally, but all hangers do those, as for stopping completely? haven't seen that happen yet, and I use them extensively with my newest character.

[uni790]

Originally posted by N3MES1S:

Originally posted by uni790:

Haven't seen them get stuck, I've only got the basic ones, they do move slowly, and ignore commands occasionally, but all hangers do those, as for stopping completely? haven't seen that happen yet, and I use them extensively with my newest character.

Well, as i said it is a common bug. Now that you talk about the quality.. i have the elite ones, so maybe thats it. Maybe the other quality ones dont have this problem.

No. Obviously you have almost zero experience with carriers. Im not talking about getting stuck for a couple of seconds and then move slowly to your position. Im talking about getting stuck for almost more than a minute, and when you are about 5-10 km away they start moving to you soo slowly by the time they get to you you already killed evryone in the map. If i give em the command to recall, they keep flying around like nothing and only after half a minute or more one of em decides to go in, and then slowly the other ones. Its really stupid and annoying. Most of the times they are useless completely because i kill all my enemies before they can even go to the position.

And this ONLY happens with this pets. I have 5 carriers and no, lol, the pets dont act like these ones not by a long shot. The pets of the Karfi have similar behaviour but it is not that bad.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the only 2 carriers ingame I don't have, are the KDF's Kar'fei(probabily butchered that one) and the Jem'Hadar one. Don't have the Karfei as I don't play KDF anymore, and the Jem'hadar one is too expensive to bother with, as it needs you to own the attack ship as well.
I've never once had an issue with the Recluse, Atrox(no frigate sized pets), Scimitar(only half a carrier but it does have frigates), Vo'quiv, I could name them all, been playing carriers for years, started my KDF way back in the day for the sole reason that the federation didn't have one. I've got the elite pets for most of them, stopped playing my KDF years ago, so I don't have theirs, and yes, they don't just teleport into your hanger, they have to fly to you, take position and then enter. The longest time I've seen taken was with the Breen Fighters, who seem to try and enter in perfect formation. The Breen Frigates fly towards you and enter as they touch you, yea, they're slow, they don't ahve any movement skills, and if you watch the breen NPC ships of the same kind, you'll see they move the same way.
Also no hanger pet keeps up with the player ship, they never have, if you want them to come back faster, you gotta slow down, you know, common sence stuff.

I suppose thinking about it now, I have seen pets get stuck and refuse to do anything at all, Azure Nebula used to do that to them, but that was fixed shortly after the romulan reputation was introduced. But the breen pets and carrier didn't exist then.

One last thought, you can at least bring them back to the hanger now, if you've been playing as long as I have you'll remember back when you couldn't pull them into the hanger at all, or replace alive pets, meaning you had to wait for them to slowboat accross arenas(borg red alert was over long before they reached the capital ship), or in the romulan queued events where they used to just go do their own thing regardless of your commands.