How much of the game is gone..

[opennix]

Hey guys.. will try to put my question as simply as possible.
How much of the game content is lost with time?
Meaning that the kool pve episode/story mission/whatever was there in one season but is gone now.. I dun wanna miss any part of the sto game.
I havn't had a good rig to play this game so cant check out myself

[Vellari]

Very little actually. Some content has been revised and restructered (like the Romulan Mystery arc) but for the better in my opinion. As to completely removed, not many missions.

On the other hand, if it's removed it's gone for good. So you missed it...

[luther349]

very little and when it comes to the story missions nothing was removed.

[luther349]

you will learn not to Liston to the forum trolls hear some old content was remade like the intro missions etc and it was for the better. some filler eps got condensed into 1 ep etc but the story is all still there. and much of the old content will be getting redone with voice overs etc that the new content has.

[opennix]

Originally posted by N3MES1S:

The romulan story arc was remodeled and was cut to almost half of the episodes. Same will happen with the dominion arc in the next season. More than that, the only thin that was "removed" was the exploration clusters thing, nothing more. Now other completely different thing is that a lot of "old" things are in bad shape and abandoned since long time ago.

Kindly elaborate.. isn't the romulan arc a big part of the story ? Why do the devs need to change the content.. or is it that the number of quests are cut while keeping the story as is.. (100%)

[AbsynthMinded]

Between 1-50 there is 'content'. That content is buggy in one episode or another, in one way or another, usually in a play breaking kind of way when you encounter one. Every pass time you used to enjoy that did not have a Dilithium cost attached to it, now does. STF's have had the loot quality slashed while increasing the relative difficulty drastically. T5 ships are now point for point, outclassed by T6's, T5U is a scam. They have now complicated the DOff and Crafting systems, and there by complicated many attached activities and goals. The DOff system mission offers have gone loopy because they eliminated zone loading. Some really important missions are no longer offered and some systems and areas which should offer mission offer nothing at all now. The Crafting has opened up an rentirely new system of 'Upgrading' every part of your ship. Your ship now has levels and an experience bar of its own. All of which I find terrible. I have nothing good to say about STO systems. I have very little good to say about added content, the Romulan content being the best thing I've seen in years. They still screwed that up because Romulan do not get to be their own faction they have to choos FED or KDF, and Cardassian will be the same way when or if they are relased as a playable faction.

Trolls only focus on players and post content. As long as the discussion is focused on the merits, or lack there of, in the game, everyones opinion has equal value. Anyone taking a serious swipe at another poster tends to give up their own moral high ground.

[opennix]

"Some really important missions are no longer offered" .. just how important .. was wondering..

[AbsynthMinded]

In the DOff system the T4 missions which offer the best awards, like purple DOff's, no longer appear in teh areas which you would expect to find them. I have not played in some time I can not recall the specific titles. I know that there had been no mention of fixing any of that. One system in the Cardassian sector which was an exploration hub, their mission slate remains blank completely that I know of.

Again I may not play but I keep upto date on the patch notes. Expecting miracles.

[opennix]

thnks :)

[Mark]

I've just started playing a Romulan character, so I hope there is a lot of game to play!

[Keksut]

Originally posted by luther349:

very little and when it comes to the story missions nothing was removed.

The salt suckers mission and several star systems can no longer be accessed dude. DO NOT sit here and say that nothing was taken out of the game

[Vellari]

Originally posted by opennix:

Kindly elaborate.. isn't the romulan arc a big part of the story ?

It was restructured for Fed/KDF characters to match the missions/storyline of the newer Romulan faction. Had it not been "fixed" Romulan characters would have different story points (New Romulus founding, Elach abductions, Tal Shiar Iconian influence etc.)

Some of the "pointless" fly to A, pick up something, fly to B type missions were removed, others were joined into single missions. Dialog rewritten here and there. A vast improvement in my opion, it now forms a better story arc, instead of just being a bunch of missions in a row.

Pure speculation here, but the upcoming Cardassion re-vamp might also be a precursor for a rumored new faction...

[AbsynthMinded]

Theres no question Cardassians are next in line.. However their cannon is so thin over all it pales in comparison to Romulan. So what they make of it regarding another faction will be interesting but I suspect ultimately dissapointing.

However given that the STO story is now 'off the map' as it were it would not suprise me if they tied Cardassian Cannon to that end of things so they can continue to make up whatever they want at this point.

[opennix]

humm so lost areas :'( nyways still seems good :) thnks guys ... see you in game sometime

[Keksut]

Anything useful has been taken off of Andoria and now literally consists of endless snow fields and the same crowd copy pasted SEVERAL times

[AbsynthMinded]

Originally posted by N3MES1S:

Originally posted by opennix:

Kindly elaborate.. isn't the romulan arc a big part of the story ? Why do the devs need to change the content.. or is it that the number of quests are cut while keeping the story as is.. (100%)

Besides what Vellari said, after many years people stated that some episodes were terribly bad and since cryptic "needs" to revamp some things by time to time i guess it was the romulan arc. Again, instead of making better episodes, they just reduced the quantity with little improvements because its cheaper. The dominion arc needs a revamp inmediately, it is the worst arc by far of the entire game. Tiresome episodes, too many cutscenes with no point at all and other things. They did em in a hurry to promote the dominion arc, and people have asked for YEARS to have a revamp of that arc. So, they are going to reduce the more than 10 missions of the dominion arc to 4 or something like that..

My money is tie them into the Iconian story so instead of having to invent and flesh out past cannon that doesn't exist really, they can just focus on pulling whatever they like out of thin air because we are now in the future of STO. So that anyone intimately familiar with Cardiassian and Bajoran cannon, thin as it is, can not complain because STO screwed up something. Which they would.