Star Trek Online

Star Trek Online

Bacalhau Jan 19, 2021 @ 2:11pm
Good for those who don't like the latest Star Treks???
Tittle says it all... I'm not a fan of ST Discovery or Picard. But HUGE fan of TNG, DS9, and to lesser extent Voyager. Would you recommend I play this or not even bother? What "universe" does it take place in? What other Trek games does it most resemble?
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Salamand3r- Jan 19, 2021 @ 2:17pm 
First and foremost, it's an MMO.

It also happens to be a Trek MMO, but the gameplay and mechanics aren't really anything unexpected for an MMO.

The setting still mostly resembles an immediately post-TNG/DS9/VOY era. Yes, there is stuff from STD and Picard, but the aesthetic and feel of the game still retains a lot of the TNG-era feel.

You can ignore almost all the story content based around the new Trek shows. It's not necessary to level or play the game.

If you are expecting a lot of deep content with tons of moral quandries and nonviolent resolutions always being an option - you won't find that in STO, at least not commonly. The gameplay loop is still going to be combat-centric.

It doesn't really resemble any other Trek games directly, because again it's an MMO designed for grinding and player retention. There haven't been any other Trek MMOs, so it sort of defines itself.
NavFamG Jan 19, 2021 @ 2:41pm 
They set the game in the ST Future post any of the shows or movies. That allowed them the most freedom to do what they wanted to without being locked in a particular ST show's timeline. (And create unique ships to sell)

You can create a Discovery character, but their unique quests are only a dozen or so and then they jump ahead in time and pick up the main quest line.

Same for TOS, Romulan or Klingon along with the main Fed. TOS & Klingon are like the Disc set up and you'll have a short set of unique quests before joining the main quest line. There's more Rom quests than any of the others, but it too eventually joins with the main quest line.

You'll see the different uniforms from the various shows, same for ships including Disc and Picard, so as long as that won't bother you, yes it's worth playing.
Maj_Cyric Jan 19, 2021 @ 5:43pm 
That last season of Disco was just an epic fail of script and show...

Got a great laugh from this video though..
https://youtu.be/17Mu-lyFTWs

Cause yeah those Disco Turbolift scenes were such WTF?
Xautos Jan 20, 2021 @ 3:09am 
Originally posted by CylonAgent:
Tittle says it all... I'm not a fan of ST Discovery or Picard. But HUGE fan of TNG, DS9, and to lesser extent Voyager. Would you recommend I play this or not even bother? What "universe" does it take place in? What other Trek games does it most resemble?

The game is set in 2410 and the post TNG Era, a few years after PIC and LD. However it is looking increasingly more likely that the game is set in an alternative timeline, which is just as well. There are certain storyline elements Cryptic have created that are incompatible with events in PIC at this time, namely the Romulan Republic. PIC might clear up some of that in season 2 (and how ever many seasons that Patrick Stewart feels he can go on for).

The game is completely free to play if you wish it, you don't need permission to find out, all you need is to register an account, download the game through steam (because of the old launcher), login on the launcher and start playing. so my recommendation isn't needed. You'll find out soon enough if it hits your interest or not.

Originally posted by Maj_Cyric:
That last season of Disco was just an epic fail of script and show...

Got a great laugh from this video though..
https://youtu.be/17Mu-lyFTWs

Cause yeah those Disco Turbolift scenes were such WTF?

Without seeing the video, i've already seen season 3 and the last episodes and i was wondering how much space is really on the Discovery to have such an extensive turbolift network like that as well. I started wondering if the majority of the secondary hull is a big hollow space with two areas, engineering and shuttle access with a few walkways, the rest is completely inaccessible other than for turbolift access.

A non-traditional layout, not comprised of decks, rooms, corridors, and turbolift shafts, but almost exclusively devoid of any of that with a few isolated areas for work.

When that fight between Cleaveland and Zareh lasted minutes, but i'm fairly sure a ship of Discovery's size wouldn't last that long with turbolifts at that speed in the secondary hull. And then Zareh taunts about the cat and ends up becoming a smear on a turbolift and a puddle on some part of the inside of the ship.


Nain Jan 20, 2021 @ 3:41am 
Originally posted by Maj_Cyric:
That last season of Disco was just an epic fail of script and show...

Got a great laugh from this video though..
https://youtu.be/17Mu-lyFTWs

Cause yeah those Disco Turbolift scenes were such WTF?

yeah, when i saw that (on the interwebz, im not paying for this farce) i was scratching my head so hard, it started to look like picards.

i know, setpieces need to be epico by todays standards, but that was just beyond ridiculousness.
Maj_Cyric Jan 20, 2021 @ 9:06am 
It's like they shot the interior of the USS Discovery as though it was the size of a borg cube...

Classic Trek didn't need Epic setpieces to make it work... Just good script writing and actors that could deliver their lines with skill and passion... Trek these days are all "action" and flashy eye candy effects to make up for the lack of a good script writing and actors that can't act...

The Expanse is a Sci-Fi show done perfectly.. Writers and show runners of Trek really should take note how it's done when telling a story in space..

Anywho.. Speaking of The Expanse, DL just finish and time to enjoy Episode 8
Girl-y-Girl Jan 20, 2021 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by CylonAgent:
Tittle says it all...
Is a "tittle" a combination of a titty plus its nipple? 'Cause that's what this (and every) game needs! If they could throw in some sex scenes in the new content, then I'd play it, despite the characters, locations, and (to a lesser extent) story being based upon crap. I'd love to see what kind of a beast J'Ula becomes in the bedroom, or if Vulcans feel anything during intercourse...
Lupin III Jan 20, 2021 @ 10:28pm 
The game really includes all forms of Star Trek. It includes the events from Jar Jar Trek (2009 reboot) about the supernova taking out Romulus but, unlike those ♥♥♥♥♥♥ movies, it stays inside the original timeline. It's possible to acquire some Jar Jar Trek ships, bridge officers, and uniforms though... so you'll see people flying around in that stuff. Other than that, there is no Jar Jar Trek story content.

A big portion of the content is related to TNG, Voyager and DS9. Those three eras make up the bulk of the game, and the best parts of it. There are also portions of the game set in TOS (you can start the game in this era even), as well as Enterprise, but the Enterprise content is the least fleshed out of all of the shows.

There is also some story content from the TNG and TOS Star Trek movies such as the weird dustball planet from Star Trek V, the Nexus from Star Trek Generations, Borg stuff from First Contact, the stretchy-faced ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from Insurrection, and Romulan characters from Nemesis.

Currently they are doing Discovery content... and much like the show, it's high production values combined with a meh story, bad characters, and a lot of repetitive filler. It's not terrible content, and it's certainly better than the show itself, but I'm getting bored of Discovery klingon ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I'm not a fan of Discovery, at all, but the Discovery content in the game doesn't ruin it for me. You can also start the game in the Discovery era, and honestly that was pretty good prologue.

There's been a small amount of Picard stuff, which is mostly just a couple one-off missions. I expect they'll do more Picard stuff once they've run out of Discovery crap, but at the moment there is no Picard story content, just a space scenario (Synth attack on Mars, which is a lot of fun), and an event ground mission. I haven't watched Picard at all

Yes, it's still worth playing even if you don't like newer Star Trek stuff.
Kazuma Jan 21, 2021 @ 3:05pm 
its nice up to the part where they try to force the std retcon ♥♥♥♥ in
Bacalhau Jan 21, 2021 @ 8:15pm 
OK thanks everyone! I suppose this is what I had to expect. One more question - i realize its an MMO, but how much time does one need to pour into this game? Can one play it casually?
Maj_Cyric Jan 21, 2021 @ 8:29pm 
Originally posted by CylonAgent:
OK thanks everyone! I suppose this is what I had to expect. One more question - i realize its an MMO, but how much time does one need to pour into this game? Can one play it casually?

If you aren't interested in "earning"(grinding) the needed daily times for whatever prize the event at the time (seems to been one right after another these days) then yes, you can play STO as casually as you want to play it at..

You'll just miss out on of the "free" event rewards etc etc (most aren't game changing)..
Lupin III Jan 21, 2021 @ 9:36pm 
Originally posted by Maj_Cyric:
Originally posted by CylonAgent:
OK thanks everyone! I suppose this is what I had to expect. One more question - i realize its an MMO, but how much time does one need to pour into this game? Can one play it casually?

If you aren't interested in "earning"(grinding) the needed daily times for whatever prize the event at the time (seems to been one right after another these days) then yes, you can play STO as casually as you want to play it at..

You'll just miss out on of the "free" event rewards etc etc (most aren't game changing)..
To be fair, though, that shouldn't be considered grinding. Those event tasks are very easy and generally take less than five minutes per day, especially for the seasonal events, and the reward is always a top tier ship. It's kinda rare that the mission for those takes more than 10 minutes total, and when it does it's during one of the shorter events. They're almost always worth doing since the effort involved is minimal compared to the value of the reward, especially when consecutive events end up rewarding free ship coupons to get whatever you want out of the store.

The real grind comes in the form of duty officer assignments, admiralty, and the reputation system. All that ♥♥♥♥ can soak up a considerable amount of time each day, and two of those things are the MMO equivalent of doing managerial paperwork. Now that there's like... 12 reputations, that can get really time consuming, and the actual process of turning in the marks each day is a pain in the ass. All three of those things need a big quality of life overhaul to make them less tedious. Unfortunately, those three things are also the best source of dilithium (which is needed to get premium currency without paying for it).

That said, you can totally skip all that grindy stuff and just play through the story missions. There's a ton of story content, you get a lot of free ships as you level up that are more than adequate for the job, and there is never a point where you have to go out and grind something just to make more story content accessible. This game probably has the most player friendly free-to-play model of any MMO out there, and it can be played as casually or as hardcore as you want.

Some advice though, the anniversary event is about to begin, and the reward for that will be a very decent ship. I would definitely get in on it now, because event ships are unlocked for every character on your account, even ones you haven't made yet, and tier 6 ships (the top level of ships) can now be used at any character level, and they scale up with you as you progress.
PhotriusPyrelus Jan 22, 2021 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by CylonAgent:
Tittle says it all... I'm not a fan of ST Discovery or Picard. But HUGE fan of TNG, DS9, and to lesser extent Voyager. Would you recommend I play this or not even bother? What "universe" does it take place in? What other Trek games does it most resemble?

Yes. Absolutely. The Gamma Quadrant episode alone is reason enough to play the game. You can totally ignore and not-do the Discovery blueshift.
Xautos Jan 22, 2021 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by CylonAgent:
OK thanks everyone! I suppose this is what I had to expect. One more question - i realize its an MMO, but how much time does one need to pour into this game? Can one play it casually?

You can put however much you wish to into this game with exception to those few hours on the regular patch day where the servers are down. You can play it as casual as you like or as hard core as you like, there is no obligation to either end or that in between.
Last edited by Xautos; Jan 22, 2021 @ 2:50am
Nain Jan 22, 2021 @ 4:39am 
yes, you can play for free all the way to the end. levleing has some missions with some questionable balancing, but its an mmo, so group up if its to hard.

once you have one T6 ship you can finish all of the story content with ease. those ships can be bought from the auction house, or some are free from events, like the upcoming jubilee.

it honestly does not matter which one you pick, all are viable for casually finishing all episodes and grinding on basic difficulty for daily rewards if you want.

certain things that give you more power/money do take some time to grind up, but those are really more for the endgame minmaxers that want to make their toons obscenly powerfull.
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Date Posted: Jan 19, 2021 @ 2:11pm
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