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Sirius Aug 29, 2023 @ 7:51pm
September 12th, "Incursion"
So... biggest surprise for me is that T6-X2 ship upgrades are incoming.
Another console, universal, device and trait slot.

Pretty sure you all have the same information as I do, but does anyone know or have a guess if there's yet another token coming with it for ZEN (or punishing EC cost), or if we can use our general X tokens twice?
Edit: I mean use two of them obviously, or one more if ship is already T6-X.

I tend to not spend ZEN on 'consumables' and get by with free events and promos and such - Despite me being a lifer, but don't like to use the slow trickle of ZEN on these one-off items and together with expenditure around that, I feel the game got enough money from me for a good while.

So anyway, Phoenix Event is upon us again tomorrow, meaning besides the free daily Phoenix Box, stocked up tokens can be turned in for T6-X upgrades - but I'm weary to spend a bunch on them to then find out at the 12th that I can't use them to T6-X2 with.
Last edited by Sirius; Aug 29, 2023 @ 8:08pm
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VoodooMike Aug 29, 2023 @ 8:51pm 
There is no information on how T6-X2 upgrading will be done... whether it'll be a new token, or just a second upgrade token... or possibly multiple upgrade tokens to go from X to X2. Anybody's guess, so... best to just wait for more info.

A lot of Incursion seems to be about making the Borg a threat again, after letting them fade into triviality across STO's lifetime. That's not a bad thing - the borg are supposed to be a scary enemy in the Star Trek universe, but in STO they're just not at this point.

Also looks like they got the green light to dive into the Star Trek Prodigy content, so we'll be getting a ton of that in the coming year or so, including the hero ship in the new lockbox. I didn't watch that show so... who knows if that'll be fun or tedious.
Eggy Aug 29, 2023 @ 9:26pm 
Geez, I haven't even used the first one. There are quite a few things I haven't used/optimized yet.
x1Heavy Aug 30, 2023 @ 12:53am 
The borg got .. turned into a kindergarden. A mild annoyance but disposed of in bulk as a collective in a few moments by turned warships turned hunters in their own right.

Sometimes in red alert situations everything is dispose of by the time I reach one of the cubes in speed boosting.

As far as Crafting, the R and D is maxed out at 20 across the board with 6 slots crafting so thats not a issue.

I have spent the last 6 months gathering mountains of R and D minerals in bulk at the exchange cheaply before people realize that they will need a awful lot of it and start paying a premium in EC later this year on Exchange. That could turn profitable for me.

Zen is easily bought at the store in steam wallet cards or bank account debit at any time. Should there be a compelling benefit. I have not paid anything for years as a lifer in the game but probably will dig out some steam cards and toss into the wallet and start harvesting phoenix boxes off a million dil or something soon. We will see.

I already see game changes in my end when I logged in last night. So its going to be pretty good.

STO Borg will be ... buffed. Beefed. Made scary again. The issue is that I am right there with them using ships that can do battle when the time comes later this year. I just finished upgrading a Nantie Borg Resistant console that goes into the warship. I already have plans to add a few more to beef it it up some more to withstand future borg clubbing and abuses in battle. Tuning for power output and resistance against off line damage.

Part of that comes from the Omega Reputation tree which just reached 6 and is maxed out. Its a matter of accumulating thousands of marks to buy sets for the ship to club even more borg when the time comes.

Upgrade until you dont explode in battle. Ive said this since the very beginning.
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Leitbild83 Aug 31, 2023 @ 4:07am 
Hmm, good question btw - I assume it will be done by yet another upgrade with a regular experimental ship upgrade token, but don't take my word on that!

As for the Borg - well, don't expect more than asset upgrades (like with the Tholians with the last new story mission) with new harder versions of drones - guess all non-meta players will curse Craptic for that again as it makes older story missions way harder than before ... besides, I really don't want to know what issues will turn up with that update then ... We already got enough gamebreaking issues as it is - let's just hope they mind those this time instead of making it just worse for the sake of appeasing bored metas and whales ...

But yes, I share the opinion that the Borg in STO are merely a joke by now ... they really need to be something more than shooting gallery figures in TFOs again ... The Borg always were a powerful force to be reckoned with in Trek lore - so it doesn't look good for them when they are technically outdone by rather obscure alien-of-the-week races like Na'kuhl or Vaadwaur ... ;)
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Sirius Aug 31, 2023 @ 4:24am 
Originally posted by VoodooMike:
Anybody's guess, so... best to just wait for more info..

Originally posted by Leitbild83:
Hmm, good question btw - I assume it will be done by yet another upgrade with a regular experimental ship upgrade token, but don't take my word on that!

My point exactly - but the phoenix event starts NOW and ends before the update.

I have lots of phoenix tokens stocked up and could easily turn them into enough T6-X's, but do not look forward to then sit on them in case they are not used for the new upgraded line.

Already have all the ships (or their fleet upgrades) I regularly use at T6-X, so I really don't need lots of bound-to-account tokens I have no use for.

Logically I would also assume they just use the regular T6-X token, but the thing is we don't know.

Guess I'll just sit this phoenix event out then, it'll come around again and it's not that important to get straight into this T6-X2 stuff anyway.

Still mildly infuriating, the way they (probably intentionally) leave out the details while having the most useful event for the possible use of it leading up to the update.
But it's still a gamble, so nope.

I do have 3 or so upgrades sitting in my account bank I think, best of both worlds then.

Thanks all, I just needed the perspective nudge to decide the obvious.
Leitbild83 Aug 31, 2023 @ 4:30am 
Yeah, they always play a baiting lottery with us and I wouldn't be surprised if they come up with a new type of upgrade token in the end - so I will stay wary and waiting, too and rather buy universal upgrades for my free extra tokens - bcs one thing IS already sure yet: I will definitely fill out the additional console slots! ;)
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x1Heavy Aug 31, 2023 @ 10:41am 
I dont bother with universial upgrade prizes.

If I want to upgrade something I'll open a bunch of phoenix boxes. Then pile up the upgrading. The problem is theres nothing to upgrade right now. Not till the 12th Sept.

I went over my fleet and disposed of ships that have sat in the ship yard since the beginning for years. Coated in rust. New thinking, if you use something go for it. If it sits, trash it. You can always get it again if you want it. (And play it...)

That eliminates more needy stuff like ship slots and so on and turns a little more frugal existence into something of a joy going into red alert today. I happen to be grinding marks so its fun for the time being as I work on specific goals.

What I do want to get is more of the T6x tokens. I have a feeling two of those will upgrade after the 12th sept to T-62x versions. But not explict stated in the descriptions of the upcoming changes to game.

If you wait long enough unknown things become known with no losses on this end.
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Eggy Aug 31, 2023 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by x1Heavy:
I dont bother with universial upgrade prizes.

If I want to upgrade something I'll open a bunch of phoenix boxes. Then pile up the upgrading.

Whatever for?!
cap-boulanger Aug 31, 2023 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by x1Heavy:
I went over my fleet and disposed of ships that have sat in the ship yard since the beginning for years. Coated in rust. ....

That eliminates more needy stuff like ship slots....

Have been saying this for a long time. Many ships (all zen-purchased ships as well as seasonal event ships) are freely reclaimable, so there's no reason to tie up slots hanging on to them.
Spirit Aug 31, 2023 @ 5:17pm 
these "red alert" events are something i couldn´t care less about , the even after that is what matter
but this is only my opinion
x1Heavy Aug 31, 2023 @ 8:18pm 
Red Alerts to me is a chance to pile up marks. For certain rep situations.

At some point all of the reps will be maxed out, the sets collected and upgraded and then what.

To answer the other poster "Whatever for" in the beginning upgrading was hard on crafting. Expensive too on dilithium etc.

Then I learned the Phoenix system when they first came out. By then as a Lifer I got 500 zen a month that converts to dilitium for free in the exchange with better and better amounts as the market within it increased.

I remember one zen was 50 or so Dil then. So when you refined 8000 for the day you had 160 zen on the exchange. Eventually a zen costs today 500 dil. So refined 8000 became about 16 zen coin.

Annually you get 6000 zen free as a lifer for as long the owners care to run and maintain STO. In US Dollars thats 60 dollars you dont have to buy 1000 zen coin at 10 dollars each. The lifer sub cost me almost 200 on sale a decade ago and I got back at least three times that already in zen every month since then. The 200 some dollars paid 10 years comes out to 20 dollars a year spent. Pocket change. Its not that noticeable in the overall budget.

If STO had one million players globally then 20 dollars a year from all of them over the next ten years becomes about 20 million on a good lifer sub sale round up. Thats pretty good money to them. The rest of it from Mudds Market on down makes STO almost bigger in total revenue flow in dollars than the entire ST Movie Revenue.

The dil went to other things. Upgrading with dil is expensive. So the phoenix packs have a chance to reward very rare, ultra rare and a few times a decade epics. Opening those boxes will generate hundreds of phoenix upgrades.

At that point you can upgrade everything with the passage of time. The new ended event related to No Win scenario issued me a Prototype Set warp core etc. As they are its pretty meh so theres more upgrading and reengineering to do. To get them maxed out.

The Crafting side with NPC's is pretty much idle. Its all maxed out at level 20 and theres nothing to do. Except a few cosumables now and again.

In the past you could craft and sell on exchange until the STO People slowly bound everything to either Account or character. Because they were such EC Makers on exchange for those buying the good stuff without having to level up and upgrade etc.

The game has no end. So enjoy the journey. Pick a star and follow it until morning.
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Sirius Aug 31, 2023 @ 8:20pm 
I get that my thread here is done for my purposes, so fair enough, but I just thought I'd ask:

What are you all talking about and how does it relate to the topic?
x1Heavy Aug 31, 2023 @ 8:26pm 
Eggy and others asks questions about this and that for more information on what I say sometimes. So it becomes a can of worms in answering them.

Sometimes its a spilled bucket of rattlesnakes and totally takes the thread off track. It would not be the first time.

I try to stay on topic and then shut up. However in my experience theres always someone asking a question.

I would consider the question and if its reasonable I will answer it in my way otherwise I dont feed the trolls. They have a habit of getting into everything like the old Gremlins movies of the 80's

Part of the problem with being 60 plus in this lifetime playing on the internet is theres always someone new becoming of age and learning the game for the first time and has questions to ask.

The original trek games was Dungeon and Dragons style paper charts, dice sets and pencils along with canon reference material found in the book shops and conventions back then. No computers. It would sometimes take days to resolve a scenario.

If you asked 5000 People a simple question in a old style pre internet Trek Convention... you are going to find yourself dealing with quite a percentage of them for a few hours. Dont worry, the question will be more than resolved.
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cap-boulanger Aug 31, 2023 @ 9:15pm 
Originally posted by x1Heavy:
Eggy and others asks questions about this and that for more information on what I say sometimes. So it becomes a can of worms in answering them.

Sometimes its a spilled bucket of rattlesnakes and totally takes the thread off track. It would not be the first time.

I try to stay on topic and then shut up. However in my experience theres always someone asking a question.

The questions are probably because you usually *don't* do a good job in staying on topic - or even being on topic in the first place.

For example, in this thread, people were talking about upgrading ships, and you started going off about tech upgrades for items, which are an entirely different topic other than the word "upgrade".
VoodooMike Sep 4, 2023 @ 9:07am 
So now they have confirmed it - it will take 2 upgrade tokens to go from -X to -X2:

https://www.playstartrekonline.com/en/news/article/11553083
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