Federation Starship Bundles

[WolfTooth]

So im looking for a Tier 6 ship bundle so that each career path of my Characters in starfleet can have a t6 ship. I originally was only thinking of the T6 Escort Carrier for my tac but wanna take advantage of the 3 ships for price of 2. Im considering the Starfleet Multi Mission explorer bundle right now but noticed it has a Commander Science and relatively little in the way of tac in the tac centered one. Should i still get it? It has a Hangar Bay which i DO want but theres not a tactical heavy version and i dont think ANY can fit my favorite weapon of Cannons. By the same token though i want a pack that has both a Tactical Ship, Science ship and Engineering ship. Hangar Bay wold be nice but certainly not necessary.

EDIT: Before anyone mentions them i DO NOT WANT PILOT OR INTEL SHIPS

[Ordinary Dark]

I would get the flagship bundle

those consoles (and set boni) are actually usefull



ooooor buy keys when at discound, sell for ec and get 3 lockbox ships from the exchange for each of ur toons
since shipso in a bundle are rly very similar... where is the point in flying the same ship on 3 toons (with only small differences)

[WolfTooth]

Originally posted by Scrooge:

I would get the flagship bundle

those consoles (and set boni) are actually usefull



ooooor buy keys when at discound, sell for ec and get 3 lockbox ships from the exchange for each of ur toons
since shipso in a bundle are rly very similar... where is the point in flying the same ship on 3 toons (with only small differences)

So i should not get the bundles and instead get a diffrent ship for each career? Cause i REALLY want the T6 Escort Carrier for my tac but dont want other careers to lack ships

[Running-Target]

How about the 31st Century Temporal Ship Bundle for 6,000 zen, where you have the > https://sto.gamepedia.com/Chronos_Temporal_Dreadnought_Cruiser
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Eternal_Temporal_Multi-Mission_Science_Vessel
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Ouroboros_Temporal_Raider

Larger Two ships have 1 hangar and can mount dual cannons.

[WolfTooth]

Originally posted by Running-Target:

How about the 31st Century Temporal Ship Bundle for 6,000 zen, where you have the > https://sto.gamepedia.com/Chronos_Temporal_Dreadnought_Cruiser
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Eternal_Temporal_Multi-Mission_Science_Vessel
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Ouroboros_Temporal_Raider

Larger Two ships have 1 hangar and can mount dual cannons.

I might get this pack because it has everything i want but...dear god the ships are UGLY

[ImperatorPavel]

Originally posted by WolfTeeth:

Originally posted by Running-Target:

How about the 31st Century Temporal Ship Bundle for 6,000 zen, where you have the > https://sto.gamepedia.com/Chronos_Temporal_Dreadnought_Cruiser
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Eternal_Temporal_Multi-Mission_Science_Vessel
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Ouroboros_Temporal_Raider

Larger Two ships have 1 hangar and can mount dual cannons.

I might get this pack because it has everything i want but...dear god the ships are UGLY

The temporal ships are not lookers. Personally why I went with the Cardie Sci Dread over the temporal science vessel. That, and I like cloaking.

You are indeed correct in that the multimission boats cannot use DHCs. If I were looking for a ship 3-pack I'd probably go with the command battlecruisers. They're a bit slow on the turn rate (avenger/arbiter/gagarin would be better for a cannoncruiser), but they all have a hangar and can mount dual cannons.

[WolfTooth]

Originally posted by =(eGO)= ImperatorPavel:

Originally posted by WolfTeeth:

I might get this pack because it has everything i want but...dear god the ships are UGLY

The temporal ships are not lookers. Personally why I went with the Cardie Sci Dread over the temporal science vessel. That, and I like cloaking.

You are indeed correct in that the multimission boats cannot use DHCs. If I were looking for a ship 3-pack I'd probably go with the command battlecruisers. They're a bit slow on the turn rate (avenger/arbiter/gagarin would be better for a cannoncruiser), but they all have a hangar and can mount dual cannons.

Ye. Command Cruisers look nice. I wouldnt mind using beams but ive literally never made a beamboat before. I would use entirely anti-proton beams since its my fav energy type.Also its much more appealing to my eyes :)

[ImperatorPavel]

Originally posted by WolfTeeth:

Originally posted by =(eGO)= ImperatorPavel:

The temporal ships are not lookers. Personally why I went with the Cardie Sci Dread over the temporal science vessel. That, and I like cloaking.

You are indeed correct in that the multimission boats cannot use DHCs. If I were looking for a ship 3-pack I'd probably go with the command battlecruisers. They're a bit slow on the turn rate (avenger/arbiter/gagarin would be better for a cannoncruiser), but they all have a hangar and can mount dual cannons.

Ye. Command Cruisers look nice. I wouldnt mind using beams but ive literally never made a beamboat before. I would use entirely anti-proton beams since its my fav energy type.Also its much more appealing to my eyes :)

The problem with bundles, imho, is that most of the time they restrict you to a certain ship subclass. All the command battlecruisers are battlecruisers are 4/4 battlecruisers with similar seating and stuff.

Granted, I'd probably just get the Arbiter and a T6 Science vessel of choice (assuming you're spending 6k zen) since the arbiter has a pretty good trait and while it doesn't have access to a commander tac station it can work pretty well with cannons or beams. You're only buying two ships, yes, but you're buying a fairly versatile one (the avenger/arbiter can use the cloaking device from the level 61 defiant if you've got it, and is brilliant in general), and a science vessel.

That, and in a month or two we'll be getting the T6 Risian Corvette and the T5 version of said ship is pretty good imho.

[WolfTooth]

Originally posted by =(eGO)= ImperatorPavel:

Originally posted by WolfTeeth:

Ye. Command Cruisers look nice. I wouldnt mind using beams but ive literally never made a beamboat before. I would use entirely anti-proton beams since its my fav energy type.Also its much more appealing to my eyes :)

The problem with bundles, imho, is that most of the time they restrict you to a certain ship subclass. All the command battlecruisers are battlecruisers are 4/4 battlecruisers with similar seating and stuff.

Granted, I'd probably just get the Arbiter and a T6 Science vessel of choice (assuming you're spending 6k zen) since the arbiter has a pretty good trait and while it doesn't have access to a commander tac station it can work pretty well with cannons or beams. You're only buying two ships, yes, but you're buying a fairly versatile one (the avenger/arbiter can use the cloaking device from the level 61 defiant if you've got it, and is brilliant in general), and a science vessel.

That, and in a month or two we'll be getting the T6 Risian Corvette and the T5 version of said ship is pretty good imho.

If i didnt get a bundle i would DEFINETLY be getting the T6 Escort Carrier-Its nimble,carries cannons AND has a hangar bay. I would ALSO pick up the Arbiter for an Engineer character since i like the idea of a versatile ship for my eng. Until i get more zen my Science char could probably use either the free lvl 61 ship or the Arbiter

[ImperatorPavel]

Originally posted by WolfTeeth:

Originally posted by =(eGO)= ImperatorPavel:

Due to unnecessary space wastage I'm deleting my previous comment for this quote.

If i didnt get a bundle i would DEFINETLY be getting the T6 Escort Carrier-Its nimble,carries cannons AND has a hangar bay. I would ALSO pick up the Arbiter for an Engineer character since i like the idea of a versatile ship for my eng. Until i get more zen my Science char could probably use either the free lvl 61 ship or the Arbiter

Unfortunately, the Atlia doesn't have access to a frigate pet, but does have quick deployment. It's not a particularly popular escort - probably due to the superior stats of the pilot boats or some other pure escorts. Can use swarmers though - and dual swarmer hangars make my Obelisk viable in level 65 stuff.

Arbiter's definitely a good ship though, and I wouldn't restrict myself to a bundle just cause it's 3 ships for the price of two. Excepting admiralty concerns, if you're not gonna use the 3rd ship there's not really any point in restricting yourself to ships you may or may not like due to it being of supposedly better value.

My opinion though. I'd go with the atlia + arbiter combo if I'm gonna enjoy flying those two ships over 3x bundle ships myself.

Also: caveat - I have a habit of dismissing ships with hangar pets that don't have a frigate due to the inherent lack of tankiness of fighters. Don't take that too personally as I still fly a Dyson Science Destroyer.

[The Arkady]

I'll second everything about the 31st Century ships. They're pretty good, they do play decidedly differently (unlike the ships in some other bundles), and they're butt ugly (well, the raider isn't too bad, actually).

By the way, you do realize cruisers basically suck with cannons and rule as beam boats as a general rule of thumb? They turn at glacial speeds, which just doesn't work well for cannons, let alone DHCs

If you much prefer cannons, you might want to consider not getting a career-typical ship for your engineer. Engineers flying raiders or escorts do work. They won't be quite top-of-class dps, but they really do work. (Captain career is a fairly small part of any build, really, compared to the lot of skills, specializations, boffs, doffs, ship and gear.)

For your scientist, there actually are pretty decent sci cannon and even DHC ships out there. Top-of-the-line dps would be torpedo boats, though.

[WolfTooth]

Originally posted by The Arkady:

I'll second everything about the 31st Century ships. They're pretty good, they do play decidedly differently (unlike the ships in some other bundles), and they're butt ugly (well, the raider isn't too bad, actually).

By the way, you do realize cruisers basically suck with cannons and rule as beam boats as a general rule of thumb? They turn at glacial speeds, which just doesn't work well for cannons, let alone DHCs

If you much prefer cannons, you might want to consider not getting a career-typical ship for your engineer. Engineers flying raiders or escorts do work. They won't be quite top-of-class dps, but they really do work. (Captain career is a fairly small part of any build, really, compared to the lot of skills, specializations, boffs, doffs, ship and gear.)

For your scientist, there actually are pretty decent sci cannon and even DHC ships out there. Top-of-the-line dps would be torpedo boats, though.

Not gonna use cannons in my engineer. Would use antiproton beams