Tailor Restrictions

[Flash Gordon]

We all know about the tailor restrictions in sto. What I've been curious about for some time, is how is it that some Players have gotten around it?
I see Players sporting costumes that their characters couldn't possibly have access to.
( EX. Humans wearing Orion gear, Players wearing Risan swimwear outside of Risa ).
Some are also mix-and-matching various pieces from costumes that sto doesn't allow a Player to do. Some Players have the ability to dramatically change the height of their characters; making them extremely tall or short.
It can't be a Mod, because I can see it, and I don't use Mods.

[SotF]

I believe the Risian swimwear is just an off duty thing.

For some things, it's more of times where things have opened up on purpose or accident and they kept them, and there are variants of several costumes that you can acquire in different ways.

For the size parts, that's in the character customization options, you can do quite a bit with that.

[Flash Gordon]

Originally posted by SotF:

I believe the Risian swimwear is just an off duty thing.

For some things, it's more of times where things have opened up on purpose or accident and they kept them, and there are variants of several costumes that you can acquire in different ways.

For the size parts, that's in the character customization options, you can do quite a bit with that.

You may be right, but I have some doubts. I've seen mix-and-matching in some crazy ways.
One Player, I won't name this person, has somehow been able to strip the scrolls off of the Sphere Builder Outfit, and put it over a naked body. And no, it wasn't the Player matching the outfit to their skin tone. They literally were able to put the scrolls over a naked body. Also, they are able to wear a Honor Guard cape with it. Now, there's no way a Player could be able to do that without removing tailor restrictions. I've seen Players running around in Drozana with Risian Swimwear on. There is only one swimsuit that I know of that a player can wear in off-duty, and that's the retro suit; but I think it's only the top portion. No bikini bottoms are allowed off of Risa. But still I see a select group of Players doing this.
Personally, I don't believe in tailor restrictions. I think a Player should be allowed to mix and match whatever outfits they own. But, most of us can't do this. Still, there are Players that can.
And I would really love to know why.

[Nowhere]

There used to be a secret /command, to bypass it. When it spread, it was removed.
Then a secret file, a few modified .dll files, were made that unrestricted the tailor.
These comes and go, and are currently gone but might return.
In order to find these, you'd need to ask around, make the right friends.
It can be free, or cost money (unfairly). If the latter, it'd cost anywhere from 300mil to 1 billion credits (same price as that lootbox). Right now, it's been patched but historically it will return, maybe already has.

The best way to legitimately unrestrict the tailor, would be to make a romulan char and join the federation. You'd get the most outfits then, and could tailor it as any species to fake it.

[Xautos]

i got some items on my kdf aligned liberated borg romulan that no other romulan can use, those items are from klingon armour that aren't accessible any more. I can't modify the character or i'd lose the items the character has equipped, in that respect my character is unique compared to millions of others who can imitate each other right down to the last detail if need be.

[cap-boulanger]

Originally posted by Flash Gordon:

We all know about the tailor restrictions in sto. What I've been curious about for some time, is how is it that some Players have gotten around it?
I see Players sporting costumes that their characters couldn't possibly have access to.
( EX. Humans wearing Orion gear, Players wearing Risan swimwear outside of Risa ).
Some are also mix-and-matching various pieces from costumes that sto doesn't allow a Player to do. Some Players have the ability to dramatically change the height of their characters; making them extremely tall or short.
It can't be a Mod, because I can see it, and I don't use Mods.

Originally posted by SotF:

I believe the Risian swimwear is just an off duty thing.

For some things, it's more of times where things have opened up on purpose or accident and they kept them, and there are variants of several costumes that you can acquire in different ways.

For the size parts, that's in the character customization options, you can do quite a bit with that.

Can confirm - swimwear can be worn in places other than Risa.

[Flash Gordon]

Originally posted by ApparentlyPhilanthropist:

There used to be a secret /command, to bypass it. When it spread, it was removed.
Then a secret file, a few modified .dll files, were made that unrestricted the tailor.
These comes and go, and are currently gone but might return.
In order to find these, you'd need to ask around, make the right friends.
It can be free, or cost money (unfairly). If the latter, it'd cost anywhere from 300mil to 1 billion credits (same price as that lootbox). Right now, it's been patched but historically it will return, maybe already has.

The best way to legitimately unrestrict the tailor, would be to make a romulan char and join the federation. You'd get the most outfits then, and could tailor it as any species to fake it.

That makes sense to me. That's what I've suspected for awhile. I wouldn't mind paying 300mil. 1 billion EC; yikes! Just little bit steep!

My worry would be that somebody would just simply take my EC and then leave me out to dry! Or that it wouldn't work.

I've got a ROM char in the federation. Now that you've said that, I'll check it out.

[Guenter]

I've known a friend to have their costumes get forcefully reset by Cryptic when they hung around too much in public showing it off, it is considered an exploit, especially if it involves modifying game files these days, that could reap some consequences I imagine if detected.

And in my case waaay back in the day when the command worked, it completely screwed up my outfit slots in bizarre ways plus cutscenes would permanently show my character in a non-existent outfit I could do nothing about, even prompted me to just abandon that character. One really does these sorts of things at their own risk. I wish this was something they would just allow legit if we lived in a perfect world but sadly it is not.

[JC]

are there outfits you can earn by playing the game? I see there are many in the store, but i like all sorts of options!

[Flash Gordon]

Originally posted by Snuggle Foxxo:

I've known a friend to have their costumes get forcefully reset by Cryptic when they hung around too much in public showing it off, it is considered an exploit, especially if it involves modifying game files these days, that could reap some consequences I imagine if detected.

And in my case waaay back in the day when the command worked, it completely screwed up my outfit slots in bizarre ways plus cutscenes would permanently show my character in a non-existent outfit I could do nothing about, even prompted me to just abandon that character. One really does these sorts of things at their own risk. I wish this was something they would just allow legit if we lived in a perfect world but sadly it is not.

Cryptic must know, that this something the Players want. To be able to mix and match the outfits they own. I can't figure why they are so uptight about these restrictions.
Will they ever change it? Only when it hurts their wallets. It's for this reason that I refuse to buy a lifetime subscription. I've played for years, and I like the game. But I refuse to pay people who are going to sand bag me.

And when they say that they cannot do it because of a lack of staff; you know that they are lying. Because if One Player can remove the restrictions, so can they; easily. However, Cryptic could give us a detailed explanation as to why they have taken this position. If they are going to insist on these restrictions, then they should justify themselves as to why.

I did find this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/fq2ot8/unlock_the_tailor/

Kael comes on, and offers a BS explanation, but he's quickly shot down in the comments.

[Nowhere]

How it's been for ages.
The dev team was initially chosing favoritism against certain fleets/players.
There is a theory that the dev team made this, and distributed it. In the very least, they did make the first command and that got leaked. But whether or not the secret files were, is unknown.
Kael is one of those, said to be in on it. Once during a public stream, a player was found mixing armbands that couldn't be worn with an outfit. Another made a huge fuzz over it.
Kael's explanation was that it was edited live on the stream.

Of course, fret not. For STO's dev team were all fired, and forcibly replaced a couple of years ago. Some exceptions, Kael and that regular answering support tickets. This is also why the Foundry was removed, as no one of the new kids knew how to code it.

[Flash Gordon]

Originally posted by ApparentlyPhilanthropist:

How it's been for ages.
The dev team was initially chosing favoritism against certain fleets/players.
There is a theory that the dev team made this, and distributed it. In the very least, they did make the first command and that got leaked. But whether or not the secret files were, is unknown.
Kael is one of those, said to be in on it. Once during a public stream, a player was found mixing armbands that couldn't be worn with an outfit. Another made a huge fuzz over it.
Kael's explanation was that it was edited live on the stream.

Of course, fret not. For STO's dev team were all fired, and forcibly replaced a couple of years ago. Some exceptions, Kael and that regular answering support tickets. This is also why the Foundry was removed, as no one of the new kids knew how to code it.

Yeah, that makes sense too. I appreciate the info; you've enlighten me. Just from this thread I've figured out a few things.
1) Somebody high up is enforcing these restrictions. and they want to hide and not reveal themselves. Probably because they know whatever the TRUE reason is, the Players would be outraged by it. There's a little Hitler running around calling the shots.
2) You can't trust them. Somebody should remind Kael that the Jedi mind trick only works on the weak minded.

And you know, the're still pushing it. That new Terran Emperor Outfit from that new episode with Crusher, it's in it's own category. You can't mix-and-match with any existing Terran outfits a Player might have. I'm thinking, " Why?!?,.....Why would you do this Cryptic?!?"

Here's another example of the stupid sh*t they like to do. The Terran odyssey outfit you can get from the Lobi store has a cutoff top that cannot be worn in Off Duty. YET, they are selling the same cutoff top that CAN be worn in Off Duty in that Terran Bundle for 17,500 Zen. It's the same exact piece!!!! And you can't get it anywhere else. That's just shady. Yeah, I know Players are getting a bunch of other things with that bundle, but that's not the point. Cryptic is trying to fleece the Players for as much cash as they can get. In my case, for things I already have and can't use they way I want to. I don't mind paying money to people when I think I'm getting a fair deal. I'm not going to spend 17,500 Zen just to get a piece I already own, just to be able to wear it in Off Duty. It's not about the money, it's the Principle.

I believe in a very simple business model,
( Take care of your Customers, and your Customers will take care of you)
I just wished Cryptic believed in the same thing.

[Taran Tatsuuchi]

Here's another thing...

Romulan Alien Females have unreasonable slider restrictions....
Particularly when compared to what other alien characters can do.
Even then I did notice I can't even make her eyes as large as the TOS Vulcan I made for the temporal recruitment event!

[particlewaves]

I bought the Lorca jacket and it's only off-duty so restricted to your character only. But Seven's civilian jacket can be used on anyone.

[Bebinn]

Originally posted by Nowhere:

There used to be a secret /command, to bypass it. When it spread, it was removed.
Then a secret file, a few modified .dll files, were made that unrestricted the tailor.
These comes and go, and are currently gone but might return.
In order to find these, you'd need to ask around, make the right friends.
It can be free, or cost money (unfairly). If the latter, it'd cost anywhere from 300mil to 1 billion credits (same price as that lootbox). Right now, it's been patched but historically it will return, maybe already has.

The best way to legitimately unrestrict the tailor, would be to make a romulan char and join the federation. You'd get the most outfits then, and could tailor it as any species to fake it.

I'm guessing this command was lost to time? Nobody saved it for posterity in the event that a bug with the game made it usable again?

[cap-boulanger]

Originally posted by Bebinn:

Originally posted by Nowhere:

There used to be a secret /command, to bypass it. When it spread, it was removed.
Then a secret file, a few modified .dll files, were made that unrestricted the tailor.
These comes and go, and are currently gone but might return.
In order to find these, you'd need to ask around, make the right friends.
It can be free, or cost money (unfairly). If the latter, it'd cost anywhere from 300mil to 1 billion credits (same price as that lootbox). Right now, it's been patched but historically it will return, maybe already has.

The best way to legitimately unrestrict the tailor, would be to make a romulan char and join the federation. You'd get the most outfits then, and could tailor it as any species to fake it.

I'm guessing this command was lost to time? Nobody saved it for posterity in the event that a bug with the game made it usable again?

As mentioned, the game was patched so that it no longer works, even if you knew what it was.