Torpedo boat?

[Salami Tsunami]

I've taken it upon myself to build a functioning torpedo boat without spending any real money. I am currently captaining a Patrol Escort class, and am sorting out the details of stacking the right equipment and bonuses to make this work right. Its inefficient, I know, but I'm having so much more fun than spamming heavy cannons.

In any event, if anybody has any suggestions or expertiese in this area, I'd appreciate it. Or discussion. Or whatever. Otherwise I'll just keep documenting this idiotic endeavor in here.

[StupidNameHere]

My accuracy was high enough to bump up some crit chance. My old crit chance was 33% but I lowered it to 20%.

[ImperatorPavel]

accuracy is important in pvp against escorts.

[StupidNameHere]

引用自 =pG=™ Pavel：

accuracy is important in pvp against escorts.

See?

[ImperatorPavel]

Some people do pvp and stuff. I'm not one of them, but I know accuracy is important for the few people that do pvp.

[Salami Tsunami]

引用自 n3mes1s：

引用自 =pG=™ Pavel：

Some people do pvp and stuff. I'm not one of them, but I know accuracy is important for the few people that do pvp.

Yes. Because when you play pvp, you are not fighting an npc. Npcs have very limited defense rating bonuses. Players dont, meaning that you need to boost even more your accuracy. Thats the reason ACC mods on weapons are more valuable in pvp than any other mods like DMG.

BUT. In normal conditions, most players end up with more than enough accuracy (overflow that goes to crit) to be fair in pvp.

Again, nothing matters since, in pvp, you only have 1-2 seconds before you blow up, or your opponent blow up lol. And, only a tiny population of players play pvp. Most smart people dont, because its pointless to play a broken game mechanic.

It used to be fun. It used to require skill. Now it just requires money and math.

[StupidNameHere]

Doesn't mean I don't like the theoretical for my craft. I play to enjoy the game. Building a cool ship that makes me happy is the goal.

[Markster]

When running a torp boat the best torps to run do some form of exotic or scaling damage that you can buff and boost. You don't want to run every weapon as a torp of some type because frankly they won't all fire and you'll miss out on damage output. The best way is to have some weapons, even if you run with no weapons power. That way you get the procs from things like plasmonic (if you care to run it) and things like the weapon's proc itself (plasma damage, -damage resist, whatever).

The best torps to run for a torp boat are:
Neutronic (plus full set for isokinetic cannon!)
PEP
Gravitorp

When you TS3 you get a chance to make a ton of grav wells with gravitorp. Even though they don't scale with skill points they do add up to a lot of extra damage. I remember a few years back (before a lot of the recent power creep, mind you) I had a sci build that got 40% of its DPS in several parses from the spawned grav wells from the gravitorp. Now I'd say neutronic and PEP or gravitorp, maybe a third torp and the rest should be set weapons or things to help strip shields so your torps impact on hull for maximum effect.

[Wisecasper]

What has the greatest effect on a crafted torpedo [Pen], [Spr] or the full x4 of a mod?

[Salami Tsunami]

Okay, so update here.

At the moment, I'm grinding out the fleet marks for the critical hit vulnerability locator consoles. After this, I'll probably work for the universal damage resistance consoles, because not dying is nice.

I have the Terran hydraulic console for quicker shared cooldowns, the Undine bio-molecular torpedo, that weird quantum shield draining torp from that one mission, and a couple of ultra rares I crafted. Furthermore, I have the Borg kinetic cutting beam as one of my aft weapons, mainly because I like the sound it makes.

Is there any other good torpedo stuff in the reputation vaults?

[ImperatorPavel]

I usually use a single armor console in my builds. more than one is a waste though.

[Odenknight]

OK, lets clear up a few things first.

Neutronic and Quantum Phase are quantum torpedoes. Their procs are boosted by DrainX. Neutronic will do a subsystem power drain, while Quantum Phase will only drain shields. This is great for Drain boats, as the high DrainX + high Aux for Sci abilities will be devestating.

Gravimetric was fixed and changed in S13 to have a gravimetric rift generated per target in the TS, and any gravimetric rift created will now properly scale with both EPG and CtrlX. Now, this torp combined w/ the PEP are the two best torps for EPG-based Sci boats.

You can also include the 3pc Delta Ordinance set on EPG boats for the 1min IsoKinetic cannon (boosted by EPG), which is good for PvP, and situational in PvE.

Other torps like Enhanced Bio-Molecular Photon Torpedo (EBM) and Terran will deliver a nasty 1-2 punch to targets under HY. EBM HY flies fast and has a nice AoE explosion, while Terran will typically finish off low hp targets.

Non-sci torp boats (which is what I specialize in) would also want their Aux high for Nukara Offensive, which will boost all outgoing damage that you do. the other traits typically used are

Torpedo Pre-Fire Sequence
Omega Kinetic Shearing
Advanced Targeting Systems
Enhanced Armor Penetration
Controlled Countermeasures
Precision

The first two are MANDATORY for Kinetic-heavy builds. If you have a control ability and are using the personal trait "Invasive Control Program" (or whatever it's called), you would also want Controlled Countermeasures. You would take that over EAP.

I put a guide here in Steam, and you can also go to my YouTube channel for more information.

[Odenknight]

You can also mix torps (I do for some of my builds), where I have the Neutronic & Quantum Phase, EBM, Temporal Disruption Device, and Terran/Delphic fore. There's no issue with having mixed torps, or even a crafted torp w/ the Rep torps.

[StupidNameHere]

Most people have pretty high resistance to drain and DoT effects so the abilities on these torps are wasted. Plain speed is the best you can hope for, in most cases.

I used to use all specials but mixing others diluted photon power and no bonus could match first strike power of the kelvins. I know the bonus torps look cool and are supposed to do other things but they just end up being wasted on a player with sci team has has decent resistance. Not good but decent.

In fact, I find that pounding with general, fast moving, fast reloading torps do more than makeup for some paltry bonuses from DoT effects, low drains, or that gravimetric thingy everyone just outruns. I do have the terrain one cause 200% of 25,000 damage with a crit chance of 25% (give'r'take) and around 120% crit severity is nothing to scoff at. Unless it misses.

If I break through shields, it's over.

[StupidNameHere]

I just about to put that drain torp on my drain build carrier and it'll make it complete. Like, murder complete.

[StupidNameHere]

GD Delta marks! Such a pain in the as to get! Sleep but soon I will have the drain torp for my sci build. SOOOO behind on the equipment but the traits and skills are set in stone as well as my PLUS FOUR HUNDRED SOMTHING SOMETHING DRAIN. Was kicking ass with the tachyon shield drain with tractor beam that knocks off a ramdom subsystem, stealing power up to 76 or so and at least leaching out 53 or something from the Lightning of Thor space attack that drains energy, generally being an over powered d bag who was carrier with frigate babies who are very rare awesome or something and ♥♥♥♥ gets real. I'm smart with my carrier so my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ are ALWAYS right by me. I was using a ghetto shield drain torp and it weren't what I wanted but I made due. I realized that the drain torp weren't on my sci build, it's on my main: engi torp bomber (just tested: yes, kelvin era all the way with Terran and gravi but I recently put thloian web mines to be a diva. Auto correct for the win.). So I'm grinding to get that torp by 'morrow and I'm gonna be a drain murder as soon as I get the temporal 2 set for 20 more drain and I gold my drains consoles...

That's what's up.