Starship Mastery Unlocks

[ProLeetNoob]

Are these to be slotted under the Traits tab, or are they active all the time? It says there are no starship traits to select, but im up to level 3 on mastery.

[ImperatorPavel]

Those are starship trait unlocks you can use from other characters.

For example, I leveled the Temporal Escort [T6] to mastery 5, unlocked the trait, and it's now available for my klingon and romulan to get since they cannot normally get said starship trait. My alternate Feds still have to master the Temporal Escort themselves to get said trait, but my klingons and romulans don't.

[ProLeetNoob]

Originally posted by =pG=™ Pavel:

Those are starship trait unlocks you can use from other characters.

For example, I leveled the Temporal Escort [T6] to mastery 5, unlocked the trait, and it's now available for my klingon and romulan to get since they cannot normally get said starship trait. My alternate Feds still have to master the Temporal Escort themselves to get said trait, but my klingons and romulans don't.

Thanks, but im trying to figure out HOW to use them, not what they are. It wont let me slot any under starship trait.

[ImperatorPavel]

Do you have any starship traits unlocked?

Traits unlocked at tier 5 mastery (aka unique traits like Emergency Weapons Cycle and Vent Metreon Gas) will appear, and only those on a very small list.

Ablative Field Projector
Advanced Firing Solutions
Battle Ready
Designated Target
Desperate Repairs
Emitter Synergy
Improved Polarize Hull
Improved Weaponized Emitters
Insult to Injury
Numerical Superiority
Radiant Nanite Cloud
Retaliation
Shield Overload
Specialist Knowledge

Are the only account-wide traits per the patchnotes from 4/25/17 (did a quick google, wiki doesn't have a list). So that might not be the entire list, but it's a pretty small list nonetheless.

What traits are you asking about the Account-Wide system for anyway?

[VoodooMike]

Originally posted by ®ProLeetNoob™ ◔◡◔:

Thanks, but im trying to figure out HOW to use them, not what they are. It wont let me slot any under starship trait.

The first four mastery traits on a ship are for that ship only, and are all active at the same time once they are unlocked, so long as you're using that ship. The 5th trait is different - it needs to be slotted in one of your starship trait slots under "traits", but it is unlocked from then on and can be used even if you don't fly that ship (or even if you delete the ship).

[ImperatorPavel]

Ooh, I get what OP was asking. Sorry.

What Voodoo man said. Mastery 1-4 are ship-specific (and determined by the type of ship) Mastery 5 is unique and slottable.

[ProLeetNoob]

Perfect, thanks guys! Voodoo nailed it. Cheers.

[lucifier]

You can only get ship traits from T6 ships...most are cash shop or lock box. And fleet ships dont have traits

[ImperatorPavel]

Yeah, this thread's been solved n3m.

[ImperatorPavel]

The OP stated that Voodoo answered his question.

[VoodooMike]

Originally posted by "n3mes1s":

When you buy or adquire a new ship, that has a mastery trait, you can level that ship and gain the ultimate starship trait of that ship. The that trait will unlock for all your toons.

The bolded part is false: the traits do not unlock for other characters. If the trait comes from a ship that is unique to the faction (it is not a cross faction ship, and there's no identical equivalent for the other faction) then the trait can be bought for 0 dil from the dil store on characters of other factions... but otherwise each trait is only unlocked on the character that unlocked it.

[ImperatorPavel]

Actually, Voodoo is correct. I have the Mirror Guardian and Intel and Command Sovereigns leveled on one of my Feds, but their traits are not account-unlocked (Specialist Knowledge - the Archon trait - is an account-unlock for my KDF and ROM chars through the store though). I have to claim and level those ships on my other Feds in order to use those traits.

The only traits that generate account unlocks are those in the account starship trait store.

Starship traits, prior to the account-unlock store, NEVER generate account-wide unlocks. Otherwise traits in the store like Battle Ready (Eclipse Intel Cruiser), Ablative Field Projector (Pathfinder LRSV), Shield Overload (Sagittarius Temporal Cruiser)0, and Specialist Knowledge (Archon Intel Assault Cruiser) wouldn't be in the account-wide trait store would they?

[ImperatorPavel]

Yeah, a Romulan ship won't transfer it's trait to your feds, etc. But I'm 100% sure leveling a ship to max doesn't transfer any traits to your other characters.

You must level the ship to max on both characters in order to use it. Always been this way.

[ImperatorPavel]

Hmm, cause I've leveled the Vizier on one of my characters and didn't get the trait on my other char. I've had the Mirror Guardian since forever, and the trait didn't automatically unlock for my TOS.

This is Cryptic we're talking about. I can assure you starship traits are a character-specific. Otherwise I wouldn't have had to grind out the Mirror Guardian trait on my TOS.

[VoodooMike]

Originally posted by "n3mes1s":

Wrong.. again.. lol.

No, its you who is wrong again... consistently wrong in almost every post you add to threads in the past two weeks that I've seen. Smug and insulting, but never factually correct.

Read what you said, and read what I said:

Originally posted by VoodooMike:

Originally posted by "n3mes1s":

When you buy or adquire a new ship, that has a mastery trait, you can level that ship and gain the ultimate starship trait of that ship. The that trait will unlock for all your toons.

The bolded part is false: the traits do not unlock for other characters. If the trait comes from a ship that is unique to the faction (it is not a cross faction ship, and there's no identical equivalent for the other faction) then the trait can be bought for 0 dil from the dil store on characters of other factions... but otherwise each trait is only unlocked on the character that unlocked it.

You claimed that any ship you buy or acquire lets you unlock its trait for all characters. That is incorrect. In fact, you try to change your story in a later post, despite your usual smug contradiction:

Originally posted by "n3mes1s":

Lockbox ships are different.

Well.. they're not, actually. They work in exactly the same way. If a ship or equivalent is available to a character's faction, that character needs to acquire it and level it in order to acquire the trait. If it is not, the trait is available from the dil store for 0 dil. Lockbox and promotional ships are almost always cross-faction or come in three faction-specific variants (such as the temporal heavy dreadnoughts).

What IS different about lockbox and promotional ships is that you cannot freely claim copies of it on other characters. That doesn't mean those ships are unavailable to those characters, just not freely available to them... so the traits from those ships are not freely available via the dil store.

Originally posted by "n3mes1s":

Erm.. of course if you buy a romulan ship, dont expect the trait to appear in a federation character... thats pretty obvious.

No, it works the same way. If the trait is not available on any ship that can be used by other factions, it will be unlocked for free on the dil store. If the trait IS available from a ship the non-rom character can acquire, then it will not.

[ProLeetNoob]

"grabs popcorn"