Too long to install

[Cosmicat]

I thought I'd try STO, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the patch process is horrendous. I killed it after an hour; I think it was at 25%. This is not how you install anything. It's not nuclear launch codes. It's 2018, I installed Elite Dangerous yesterday in 10 minutes.

Any way to install this faster? Why the hell isn't it on Steam to download directly?

[FurBall]

Nope. No way to install faster. I just let my run during the night and it was ready the next day.

[Cosmicat]

Star Trek stuck in the 90's. Is it even worth installing?

[BALTBVLL]

Originally posted by Cosmicat:

Star Trek stuck in the 90's. Is it even worth installing?

This is how most mmos download, it doesnt take longer than downloading from steam.

[MentalRaptors]

Originally posted by Cosmicat:

...This is not how you install anything...

Could have fooled me.

[The Arkady]

Originally posted by Cosmicat:

Why the hell isn't it on Steam to download directly?

Rumor has it Steam can be a bit wonky with MMOs. Supposedly, if devs aren't careful about how they upload an update, the Steam platform will force an excessively large download for existing players.

Of course, given the only developer I've ever seen publicly make that claim is rather dishonest and usually full of ♥♥♥♥, that may not actually be more than a rumor.

[BALTBVLL]

Originally posted by The Arkady:

Originally posted by Cosmicat:

Why the hell isn't it on Steam to download directly?

Rumor has it Steam can be a bit wonky with MMOs. Supposedly, if devs aren't careful about how they upload an update, the Steam platform will force an excessively large download for existing players.

Of course, given the only developer I've ever seen publicly make that claim is rather dishonest and usually full of ♥♥♥♥, that may not actually be more than a rumor.

Any mmo i've downloaded from steam does this, so im pretty sure it might be true.

[Lucifer ★✬]

any mmo first downloads the bace day 1 version of the game then needs to download all the updates. for games that are a year or so old its ganna take some time.

[Jaq]

I've never played a MMO on Steam that could be downloaded directly from Steam, other than the base installer for the patcher. I can think of several possible reasons why it's done that way. One might be that free-to-play games with gigantic file sizes like this are a bad investment for Steam, because they only make money on that if you buy in-game currency through Steam. And it's decreasing the odds that you spend money on something else they get a better margin on. But if the only thing they're contributing is letting you download a small patcher, with no customer support responsibilities whatsoever, it's probably worth a shot for them.

Regardless, OP, why not just let the thing download while you go play one of your other games. The patcher is pretty low profile, and because it's entirely separate from Steam you don't have to change any settings within Steam that would normally pause downloads while you're using other Steam utilities.

[uni790]

Originally posted by JaQMarius:

I've never played a MMO on Steam that could be downloaded directly from Steam, other than the base installer for the patcher. I can think of several possible reasons why it's done that way. One might be that free-to-play games with gigantic file sizes like this are a bad investment for Steam, because they only make money on that if you buy in-game currency through Steam. And it's decreasing the odds that you spend money on something else they get a better margin on. But if the only thing they're contributing is letting you download a small patcher, with no customer support responsibilities whatsoever, it's probably worth a shot for them.

Regardless, OP, why not just let the thing download while you go play one of your other games. The patcher is pretty low profile, and because it's entirely separate from Steam you don't have to change any settings within Steam that would normally pause downloads while you're using other Steam utilities.

Path of Exile downloads directly from steam, and can take 20 miniutes or more to install a 15MB patch, and before anyone goes stating my connection is just bad, Elite Dangerous took about 5 miniutes.

[Cosmicat]

Ok, OK, It's done, it's over. Everyone go back to your normal routines now...

[Lucifer ★✬]

Originally posted by Cosmicat:

Ok, OK, It's done, it's over. Everyone go back to your normal routines now...

THIS IS OUR ROUTINE!!!! lol


but really, mmos take ages to load. look a games like wow. that takes a day and a half with all the patches in it

[Agnithrax]

I recently loaded up Diablo 3 because Halloween, god that thing took ages but yeah with Cryptic it's download overnight because you just ain't playing it on the same day. I dig on Steam how the launcher will zip in and done after maybe 15 minutes or so setting you up for soul crushing disappointment with the cryptic launcher being all 2 little, 4 little 6 little %. I think the small games without a decade of content have spoiled my fuzzy butt, an hour makes me wonder if it's worth the wait anymore, he he he he

[MentalRaptors]

Heh, I remember the "good old days" where loading a simple game with hardly any graphics to speak of would easily take 20+ minutes to load, but then again that was the time before HDD were mainstream. Heck, even before the 3.5" floppies.

I'm not claiming that the days of old were better in any way, but I find the current "I want it ALL and I want it NOW" attitude seen all over the net quite irritating, insulting even. I mean: who the F entitled anyone to anything? If one doesn't/can't/won't have any patience that's fine by me but at least keep that pitiful whining to oneself.

Dangit, I must be getting too old for this.

[BALTBVLL]

Originally posted by MentalRaptors:

Heh, I remember the "good old days" where loading a simple game with hardly any graphics to speak of would easily take 20+ minutes to load, but then again that was the time before HDD were mainstream. Heck, even before the 3.5" floppies.

I'm not claiming that the days of old were better in any way, but I find the current "I want it ALL and I want it NOW" attitude seen all over the net quite irritating, insulting even. I mean: who the F entitled anyone to anything? If one doesn't/can't/won't have any patience that's fine by me but at least keep that pitiful whining to oneself.

Dangit, I must be getting too old for this.

well to be honest people who pay for a product are entitled to getting what they paid for. But i get your point, and it doesnt really apply in this case.

[The Arkady]

Originally posted by MentalRaptors:

Heh, I remember the "good old days" where loading a simple game with hardly any graphics to speak of would easily take 20+ minutes to load, but then again that was the time before HDD were mainstream. Heck, even before the 3.5" floppies.

Funny, I remember how even on a C64 with tape drive, 20+ minutes generally meant a game so poorly coded it wasn't even worth loading in the first place. Pretty much just like today, except with a mere 16 colors!

Or that Sinclair Spectrum a friend's mum had... damn, we were so young back then we wouldn't have gotten around to playing if that had meant waiting 20+ minutes! (We did play, except for a game or two that, oddly enough, proved to not have been worth loading in the first place.)

So, I take it this is the "good old days" of punchcards and room-sized computers that hadn't actually found their way into private households (except Wayne Manor), then?