Dungeons of Dredmor

Dungeons of Dredmor

Jim Dec 14, 2020 @ 7:47am
Lutfisk god
What floor should I wait for to give my 500 lutfisk to the lutfisk shrine? I just got my 500 lutfisk and found my first lutfisk shrine, but I know that the item it gives you scales with whatever floor your on. I'm currently on floor 5 and was wondering should I give it to him now? Or should I wait for another shrine in the lower levels?
Originally posted by Sigma:
The item "seems" to scale with the floor you are on but is not always the case. You can just as easily get a cotton shirt or leather belt artifact on floor 10 than on floor 1. If you always want the best item you do it as late as possible or if you can get 500 pieces easily with whatever method, do it on every floor.

Don't quote me on this because I don't know the formula for it but it seems to be 0.20% chance per piece for an artifact to appear. Because let's think of it this way. If you put in 500 pieces all at once you are guaranteed to get an artifact. So by that logic, it's 0.20% chance per piece you put in added on to whatever progression you are up to.

For example: On a brand new statue, 0 pieces progress. You put in 100. That's 20% for an artifact. Now every single piece you put in, 101,102,103, and so on will be 20.2%, 20.4%, 20.6% to break.

Basically if you just want the item (and i'm warning you now, the item is most likely not very good but it's randomly generated, anything can happen), put in as little as possible and do the same process for each statue you come across.

The benefits of putting in more pieces is more stats on the item, but what's the say you're gonna get a crappy ass item with lots of stats, it's still crap.

So in the end I just do the portion donation method on every statue, get the item and hope for the best. Saving up to 500 is not worth it because by the end of the game you'll most likely just get/have something better. By that logic it's actually better to do it immediately to use an item now than be pissed at something you get later.
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Sigma Dec 14, 2020 @ 8:09am 
The item "seems" to scale with the floor you are on but is not always the case. You can just as easily get a cotton shirt or leather belt artifact on floor 10 than on floor 1. If you always want the best item you do it as late as possible or if you can get 500 pieces easily with whatever method, do it on every floor.

Don't quote me on this because I don't know the formula for it but it seems to be 0.20% chance per piece for an artifact to appear. Because let's think of it this way. If you put in 500 pieces all at once you are guaranteed to get an artifact. So by that logic, it's 0.20% chance per piece you put in added on to whatever progression you are up to.

For example: On a brand new statue, 0 pieces progress. You put in 100. That's 20% for an artifact. Now every single piece you put in, 101,102,103, and so on will be 20.2%, 20.4%, 20.6% to break.

Basically if you just want the item (and i'm warning you now, the item is most likely not very good but it's randomly generated, anything can happen), put in as little as possible and do the same process for each statue you come across.

The benefits of putting in more pieces is more stats on the item, but what's the say you're gonna get a crappy ass item with lots of stats, it's still crap.

So in the end I just do the portion donation method on every statue, get the item and hope for the best. Saving up to 500 is not worth it because by the end of the game you'll most likely just get/have something better. By that logic it's actually better to do it immediately to use an item now than be pissed at something you get later.
transce Dec 15, 2020 @ 7:47am 
My suggestion is to open all of them. Once you find the lutefisk cube, you can produce enough lutefisk to unlock every item from every shrine in the entire game. Simply put your unwanted food items, mushrooms, bolts, etc, into the cube to generate more lutefisk. If you do this consistently, you should have no trouble unlocking every shrine as you go. I agree with Sigma that they do not scale with level, even though it sometimes appears that way, so there is no point in waiting to unlock them imo. I do not agree with him that adding more fish produces a better item, in my experience the number of fish used has no effect on the item given. This leads to my next suggestion...

Pro-Tip: use the ALT key to select only some of your lutefisk, do not put all 500 into one shrine or you will waste them. There is an arbitrary random number of fish you must reach on each shrine and going over that number just wastes lutefisk. I usually put 5 fish into the shrine at a time, it seems to be a good balance between conservation and time.
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