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nath4nie1 Nov 10, 2017 @ 10:43am
Does lightning reflexes suck?
I created a new free form and had lightning reflexes as his passive. There was no difference in my dodge or avoidance. Is lightning reflexes a good power or does it suck, because in my experience it really sucks
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kage1822 Nov 10, 2017 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by SlytherNate:
I created a new free form and had lightning reflexes as his passive. There was no difference in my dodge or avoidance. Is lightning reflexes a good power or does it suck, because in my experience it really sucks

make sure you PSS DEX

also, LR is not a passive I take early, its one of those passives I personally anyways respec into around lvl 30ish, for lower levels imo LR is still kind of squishy, in my experience passives like PFF/REGEN/Invuln are the best to use while leveling, they give more survivability upfront
Last edited by kage1822; Nov 10, 2017 @ 1:03pm
galadon3 Nov 10, 2017 @ 2:10pm 
Dex as a superstat has no direct relation to your dodge and avoidance, it only gives crit chance. LR scales with all superstats.

The observation that taking Lightning Reflexes does not influence dodge and avoidance in any way is pretty much impossible, maybe you hadnt actually confirmed to take it.

Lightning Refelexes wont get you up to 100% dodge though, meaning if you have a rather low HP number and a big hit isnt dodged it hurts alot.
Lightning Reflexes should pretty much always be combined with bountiful chi resurgence with the resurgence reiki advantage, wich makes its heal trigger whenever you dodge and having con as a superstat to have a nice cushion of HP to take that big non-dodged hit and heal up again helps a lot too.
Psychic Kitty Nov 27, 2017 @ 10:28pm 
You have to remember in this game....there is no dodge.....you are always hit.

Thus inthe long run Lighting Reflexes as a defense is a bit of joke...as it doesnt actualy mitigate damage.....its like a bad version of Invulnerability.

And no....respecing at high levels to get it wont help it....it will always underperform...thats the reason most players dont have it.

Go ahead just highlight other players...and you will see.....they just dont use it.

And now you know why people avoid it.
Marquise* Nov 28, 2017 @ 3:19am 
Seems it was another nerf. :/
Fish Dec 19, 2017 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by Psychic Kitty:
You have to remember in this game....there is no dodge.....you are always hit.

Thus inthe long run Lighting Reflexes as a defense is a bit of joke...as it doesnt actualy mitigate damage.....its like a bad version of Invulnerability.

And no....respecing at high levels to get it wont help it....it will always underperform...thats the reason most players dont have it.

Go ahead just highlight other players...and you will see.....they just dont use it.

And now you know why people avoid it.
The dodge chance isnt the key point of the dodge mechanic- it is possible to have a 100% Avoidance, meaning that if you dodge it will mitigate 100% of the damage. Lightning reflexes is great for people building on dodge as it will increase the chance of dodging, and allows people to focus more on avoidance than dodge change. I agree that it isnt a passive to base a character on, but it works really well in some builds, you just need to really focus on item modification to make use of the passive.
Fish Dec 19, 2017 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by Marquise*:
Seems it was another nerf. :/
It was a nerf, it initially made the balde have the survivability of a tank at high levels.
Marquise* Dec 19, 2017 @ 2:23pm 
Yeah, I had it on both my Blade and my FF build and both were great with it. The way I read it described made me doubt the skill kept the same however. For instance my FF had a sneak ability with it and the change to sneak just overwritten her passive and it got bad really quick with it. I used the character to position first in some maps before a team strike so whenever some thank got an aggro the char picked them one by one in the back first then avoided well but had a lot of martial art and ensnaring skills. :D
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