Expeditions: Rome

Expeditions: Rome

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Wilgryf Jan 19, 2024 @ 12:10pm
[spoiler] Number of death [/spoiler] decimation
In final choice of the quest option that says it will be handled LIKE a decimation where traitors will be beaten to death by other soldiers leads to legionari saying that it actually WAS A DECIMATION OF ENTIRE LEGION? what the ♥♥♥♥. Whole legion decimation seems as a fitting option but it should be separated from only killing the traitors as all other options leave them alive supposedly.
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TheLostPenguin Jan 23, 2024 @ 6:58am 
I think that incidental voice line is one of the details that slipped through without being picked up in testing, I noticed it too after that quest.
There are a few other places where either incidental lines don't make sense, or you can even entirely sequence break quests (end of act 1 was a hot mess of nonsensical conversations and events for me because of this), but so far they're few enough not to ruin the game for me.
justhecuke Jan 27, 2024 @ 12:26am 
I didn't get the feeling that you decimated the entire legion. I believe the legionari were basically complaining that beating their fellows to death was traumatizing to them, as was the intention behind the punishment. A decimation consisted of every tenth man getting beaten to death by hand by his 9 fellows. In the game, I think the legion beat all of the spies to death by hand. Spies that they knew, had fought beside, and otherwise probably thought well of.

A lot of people focus on the dead folks in a decimation, and forget that it was the fellow soldiers who did it. The Roman Legions performed decimations when discipline broke down, but people don't usually understand how killing your fellows leads to you following orders better. This is how.
TheLostPenguin Jan 27, 2024 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by justhecuke:
I didn't get the feeling that you decimated the entire legion. I believe the legionari were basically complaining that beating their fellows to death was traumatizing to them, as was the intention behind the punishment. A decimation consisted of every tenth man getting beaten to death by hand by his 9 fellows. In the game, I think the legion beat all of the spies to death by hand. Spies that they knew, had fought beside, and otherwise probably thought well of.

Exactly, we didn't perform a decimation, we only had the spies killed, which IIRC was somewhat fewer men than a 'proper' decimation would have entailed (at least for me, maybe if your legion was very low on manpower at that time it could be close). Yet the incidental voice line that occasionally plays in camp afterwards explicitly calls it a decimation, which feels a little incongruous when to most of us that term has a pretty specific meaning in the context of legion punishments, one that doesn't match what we did. So sure having the men complaining (behind our backs naturally) about what they had to do and how upsetting it was for them is fine and makes sense in-world, it might have been better not to call it a decimation though when that wasn't what was done.
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