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treahnurb Jan 11, 2023 @ 2:12pm
Caeso romance Act 2 [possible bug?]
Even knowing I might spoiler myself here, can someone shed some light onto this?
I just finished Act 2 and helped Caeso with the slave girl issue. Since I couldn't bluff, the only way to resolve seemed to be to murder that wine dude. Not cool but oh well, I guess.
He then told me that he wants to stay with me forever, I said I want too, yada yada.
Then time skip happens and he's... what? Suddenly married to that slave girl?
I am in the inn with him and Syneros and he acts like we're not a thing and he's suddenly freshly baked Dad and Pater Familias etc?
I saw on a different screenshot of someone else (who could resolve the slave issue with Bluffing) that you could ask him if he wants to settle down and get married now and there he said no and that he wants to stay with you (the player).

Is this bugged of some sort or is it because I had to kill the wine owner dude?
Last edited by treahnurb; Jan 13, 2023 @ 4:05am
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upuaut2 Jan 12, 2023 @ 2:50am 
well i found Caeso to be such a let down as far romance goes. only way you can have a working romance with him is going the republic path all the way. (as a female does not ends too well though)
Last edited by upuaut2; Jan 12, 2023 @ 2:50am
treahnurb Jan 12, 2023 @ 3:00am 
Originally posted by upuaut2:
well i found Caeso to be such a let down as far romance goes. only way you can have a working romance with him is going the republic path all the way. (as a female does not ends too well though)
what exactly does that mean?
Also I play as a male, if that makes any difference. Since he's the only gay/bi option, it's not like I can pick from many romances, lol. So far I actually liked the romance but that time skip was a weird hit in the face.
Is there a way to resolve it better?
I was wondering to... you know.... just not free the slave.....

I mean in camp he still answers with "my love" but other than that he and both prot act like he has this family now and that's totally fine? Like: I thank him for coming with me and he was like "Oh it's fine, Lucia takes over the wine shop and it's nice to have something to come back to after the war" and I was like "Bro wtf I stand right in front of you, is that not nice".

It feels like, and maybe that's a programmed issue, the "Caeso is a happy family man"-version of him is overlapping with the romanced Caeso.
Last edited by treahnurb; Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:26am
upuaut2 Jan 12, 2023 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by treahnurb:
Originally posted by upuaut2:
well i found Caeso to be such a let down as far romance goes. only way you can have a working romance with him is going the republic path all the way. (as a female does not ends too well though)
what exactly does that mean?
Also I play as a male, if that makes any difference. Since he's the only gay/bi option, it's not like I can pick from many romances, lol. So far I actually liked the romance but that time skip was a weird hit in the face.
Is there a way to resolve it better?
I was wondering to... you know.... just not free the slave.....

I mean in camp he still answers with "my love" but other than that he and both prot act like he has this family now and that's totally fine? Like: I thank him for coming with me and he was like "Oh it's fine, Lucia takes over the wine shop and it's nice to have something to come back to after the war" and I was like "Bro wtf I stand right in front of you, is that not nice".

It feels like, and maybe that's a programmed issue, the "Caeso is a happy family man"-version of him is overlapping with the romanced Caeso.

i only tried the female romance with him and it was a huge let down because my character became the empress. he hated that lol. at least she kept her marriage with cato lol.

i recall he acts the same way with a female character so yes, i find him overall a wasted investment as far romance goes lol.

will try another game with a male character and will go the republic ending with Julia as romance.
Last edited by upuaut2; Jan 12, 2023 @ 12:06pm
treahnurb Jan 12, 2023 @ 1:39pm 
Thanks for the input but it doesn't really help me with my initial question/problem?
When you romanced him with your female character, how did you resolve his personal quest in Act 2 with the slave girl and all and how did he act afterwards?

And like I said, I like the romance with him so far and if I want to become and emperor or not, we will see.
Last edited by treahnurb; Jan 12, 2023 @ 1:41pm
upuaut2 Jan 13, 2023 @ 3:00am 
Originally posted by treahnurb:
Thanks for the input but it doesn't really help me with my initial question/problem?
When you romanced him with your female character, how did you resolve his personal quest in Act 2 with the slave girl and all and how did he act afterwards?

And like I said, I like the romance with him so far and if I want to become and emperor or not, we will see.

in my game he leaves my character for good and stays with Julia and his child and lives happily ever after. and to answer your question, he does the samething with female character, the dialogue you mention above happens all the same regardless.
treahnurb Jan 13, 2023 @ 3:57am 
Originally posted by upuaut2:
Originally posted by treahnurb:
Thanks for the input but it doesn't really help me with my initial question/problem?
When you romanced him with your female character, how did you resolve his personal quest in Act 2 with the slave girl and all and how did he act afterwards?

And like I said, I like the romance with him so far and if I want to become and emperor or not, we will see.

in my game he leaves my character for good and stays with Julia and his child and lives happily ever after. and to answer your question, he does the samething with female character, the dialogue you mention above happens all the same regardless.

I suppose you mean Lucia not Julia.
Well that sucks big time!
Guess it's reload time. Rather not rescue the slave then. It sucks that this is locked behind an ability that you have to chose when creating the character, tbh. Not my fault that I picked Logic instead of Bluffing...
And honestly it does feel like a weird bug, since I've seen in a video that he doesn't stay with the kid and the slave woman if you manage to resolve the issue with bluffing. Gotta say that is... kinda bad programming here.

Thanks, it's good that I waited a bit with continuing because I had the odd feeling it would be exactly like you said.

It might be harsh then to not save her but tbh my dude is not a murderer and killing the man just because of a slave and her child seems a bit extreme for my taste anyway.

I just hope it's not punishing of you're not able to resolve his personal quest otherwise it would suck a lot, seriously.
Last edited by treahnurb; Jan 13, 2023 @ 4:01am
upuaut2 Jan 13, 2023 @ 11:13am 
yes the slave girl, mother of his child. they should have given her a portrait to make us remember her name lol.

i think male characters seem to have better romance options. I wish they had given us more options .
Last edited by upuaut2; Jan 13, 2023 @ 11:17am
treahnurb Jan 13, 2023 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by upuaut2:
yes the slave girl, mother of his child. they should have given her a portrait to make us remember her name lol.

i think male characters seem to have better romance options. I wish they had given us more options .

I totally like Caeso, to me the best option, I am glad they didn't make Cato or Bestia bi instead, lol. However I agree, Cleopatra and Julia seem very interesting LIs aswell, while as a female, you're basically stuck with Bestia or Cato if you want to be straight and don't want to have Caeso.
What I don't like though is how the game punishes me in this romance for simply not having the right "social" skill.
Like I said, to me it seems to be a bug. No matter if you decide to kill the wine dude or bluff him, the outcome should be - at least for the romance - the same imo. I will paddle back and not free the slave girl then. Screw her, not letting her take away my Caeso from me, lol.
Last edited by treahnurb; Jan 13, 2023 @ 11:26am
upuaut2 Jan 13, 2023 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by treahnurb:
Originally posted by upuaut2:
yes the slave girl, mother of his child. they should have given her a portrait to make us remember her name lol.

i think male characters seem to have better romance options. I wish they had given us more options .

I totally like Caeso, to me the best option, I am glad they didn't make Cato or Bestia bi instead, lol. However I agree, Cleopatra and Julia seem very interesting LIs aswell, while as a female, you're basically stuck with Bestia or Cato if you want to be straight and don't want to have Caeso.
What I don't like though is how the game punishes me in this romance for simply not having the right "social" skill.
Like I said, to me it seems to be a bug. No matter if you decide to kill the wine dude or bluff him, the outcome should be - at least for the romance - the same imo. I will paddle back and not free the slave girl then. Screw her, not letting her take away my Caeso from me, lol.

im more into Vercingetorix lol, or the traitor guy with the red hair .
treahnurb Jan 13, 2023 @ 12:17pm 
Wait. You can romance Vercingetorix? As a guy?
upuaut2 Jan 14, 2023 @ 3:23am 
Originally posted by treahnurb:
Wait. You can romance Vercingetorix? As a guy?

no sadly he is not romanceable. nor the other guy. such a waste lol
treahnurb Jan 14, 2023 @ 3:26am 
Oh, sad.

There's no down side from failing the personal quests, right? Except for the achievement and the perk the companions get? (Maybe except for Deineira or however you write her name because she rots in prison and probably Julia cause same) Because I can certainly go without that perk for Caeso.
Fasih  [developer] Jan 14, 2023 @ 6:20am 
Failing or succeeding in companion quests have direct consequences to the eventual fate of that character in most cases. In most cases failing a personal quest will be objectively bad for that character but not always.
Last edited by Fasih; Jan 14, 2023 @ 6:21am
treahnurb Jan 14, 2023 @ 6:33am 
Originally posted by Fasih:
Failing or succeeding in companion quests have direct consequences to the eventual fate of that character in most cases. In most cases failing a personal quest will be objectively bad for that character but not always.

So what shall I do, dear dev, watch Caeso ride into the sunset with his newly acquired wife and kid while he forgot about me and the game seem to have forgotten we were ever in a relationship or failing the quest and live with the consequences? Dunno man, this feels like it sucks. :(

I would rather be curious if this is really intended or not. I just feel like I am being punished here for not picking the right social skill in the character creation, even though there is no wrong or right social skill.
Last edited by treahnurb; Jan 14, 2023 @ 6:57am
treahnurb Jan 24, 2023 @ 3:33am 
For anyone curious:
it works out if you don't save the slaves. I still believe it shouldn't overwrite the romance but oh well.

Originally posted by upuaut2:
Originally posted by treahnurb:
Wait. You can romance Vercingetorix? As a guy?

no sadly he is not romanceable. nor the other guy. such a waste lol

Met the two now also and while I am not sad to not romance a traitor, Vercingetorix would've been nice haha. After all we're also able to get Cleo, right?
But I have to say, unlike you, I am quite satisfied with the Caeso romance. Settling down with no ambition for politics and just attend to my vineyard while he probably drinks most of my wine seems like a fine ending.
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Date Posted: Jan 11, 2023 @ 2:12pm
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