Any mods to remove the ahistorical "diversity"?

[SolviteSekai]

Got the game on game pass, just wondering.

[Korhal]

The game has no diversity, besides ONE character, which is totally fair explained ingame.
You may rather just stop now, if a single woman in a game means such a threat to whatever it might be.

And no, there are zero mopds like that.

[SolviteSekai]

Originally posted by Korhal:

The game has no diversity, besides ONE character, which is totally fair explained ingame.
You may rather just stop now, if a single woman in a game means such a threat to whatever it might be.

And no, there are zero mopds like that.

I didnt ask for a political lecture I just asked if there was a mod.

Thanks, though

[kaasmasterLP]

stop being so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ cringe bro

[Dasparado]

While its obviously not a big deal in this game, I think its more diversity fatigue. We get hit left and right in every game, tv, and movie franchise. We see 90 pound females beating up 250 pound men and always bring perfect while the men can do nothing right. We worry about this not because of racial or sexist reasons, but that it sets a trend where meritocracy and talent are being discarded in favor of checking boxes.

[Korhal]

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Originally posted by Korhal:

The game has no diversity, besides ONE character, which is totally fair explained ingame.
You may rather just stop now, if a single woman in a game means such a threat to whatever it might be.

And no, there are zero mopds like that.

I didnt ask for a political lecture I just asked if there was a mod.

Thanks, though

I have not said anything associated with politics at all and I also answered your question.
No ill will here. But with all the respects, Rome:Expedition is surely one of the least plausible examples to make a "fuse" over diversity.
As I said, there is only one female companion you have to bring and its explained totally fine, why she is there. You basically can even ditch her and walking around with a fully armed man squad.

I am surely not a fan of what Dasparado stated as well, I can even relate to some of the claims, yet again, this game, expecially this game, is a very wrong adress as an example for backing these claims up and I cannot see why this sub is facing such a heavy load of "insults" towards these points, while we have games like Saints Row or the latest WWII amputee shooter.

But as I said, no ill-will. And I mean it.

[SolviteSekai]

Originally posted by Korhal:

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

I didnt ask for a political lecture I just asked if there was a mod.

Thanks, though

I have not said anything associated with politics at all and I also answered your question.
No ill will here. But with all the respects, Rome:Expedition is surely one of the least plausible examples to make a "fuse" over diversity.
As I said, there is only one female companion you have to bring and its explained totally fine, why she is there. You basically can even ditch her and walking around with a fully armed man squad.

I am surely not a fan of what Dasparado stated as well, I can even relate to some of the claims, yet again, this game, expecially this game, is a very wrong adress as an example for backing these claims up and I cannot see why this sub is facing such a heavy load of "insults" towards these points, while we have games like Saints Row or the latest WWII amputee shooter.

But as I said, no ill-will. And I mean it.

You're assuming my issue is with a "single female companion" because of a strawman you've constructed. You answered the question, that's all that matters. Also, apparently the game isn't very ahistorical anyway.

[SolviteSekai]

To clarify my issue wasnt with the presence of women. Rome was a very diverse place by virtue of conquering a bunch of different places.

I had heard that the game sort of beats you over the head with a woman leading an army, which imo is annoying.

Again, it's not annoying because she's a woman. Plenty of games exist with women leading armies and being bad ass. I had heard the game really put an emphasis on it (as a lot of games do now) which imho is where the "ahistorical" line comes in.

It's one thing to have women in a game about the region, like say Ass Creed Odyssey which is one of my favorite games. That game however didnt treat her any differently than Dudebro MC. It wasnt making a statement at the expense of the story.

It would appear I heard wrong, as people sometimes do, and now I know better.

[✠Wagner✠]

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

To clarify my issue wasnt with the presence of women. Rome was a very diverse place by virtue of conquering a bunch of different places.

I had heard that the game sort of beats you over the head with a woman leading an army, which imo is annoying.

Again, it's not annoying because she's a woman. Plenty of games exist with women leading armies and being bad ass. I had heard the game really put an emphasis on it (as a lot of games do now) which imho is where the "ahistorical" line comes in.

It's one thing to have women in a game about the region, like say Ass Creed Odyssey which is one of my favorite games. That game however didnt treat her any differently than Dudebro MC. It wasnt making a statement at the expense of the story.

It would appear I heard wrong, as people sometimes do, and now I know better.

Play as a dude and you will be leading that army. Whats the problem?

[Rumbomaker]

Mods are currently not allowed in Expeditions: Rome, because no one can figure out how to decrypt the PAK files. Also I have seen no "ahistorial diversity" in this game. Sure there are things weird for the time period, but nothing completely immersion breaking.

[[6thR.S.] TartanClad]

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Also, apparently the game isn't very ahistorical anyway.

By admission of the developers themselves, (it's even in the loading screen) the game does not attempt to be historical anyway. It's a Roman-themed fantasy game utilising aspects from across the whole of Rome's history and condensing it into a handful of years. The events of the game themselves are all, historically, out of order, some armour you can wear is centuries behind the era you're playing and some 'soldier-types' went out of service long ago. The same is true of the factions you fight; For example, the Egyptians use equipment like the Kopesh as standard (which went out of service over a millennium before Rome emerged)!

I value historical accuracy too, but only in games that make an effort to present themselves as a 'historical game' - that are genuinely aspiring (or pretending) to build their game around an accurate historical context (which is where games like CoD Vanguard or BFV fail massively).

Expeditions: Rome is not one of those games. It's just a mish-mash of roman themes, with some impressive Latin voice acting, to make a fantasy RPG. There's no statement being made - they're just making a fun story.

[cl656]

No there isn't. I have looked. Game doesn't even have a nexus page.

[SolviteSekai]

Originally posted by Hans von Hammer:

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

To clarify my issue wasnt with the presence of women. Rome was a very diverse place by virtue of conquering a bunch of different places.

I had heard that the game sort of beats you over the head with a woman leading an army, which imo is annoying.

Again, it's not annoying because she's a woman. Plenty of games exist with women leading armies and being bad ass. I had heard the game really put an emphasis on it (as a lot of games do now) which imho is where the "ahistorical" line comes in.

It's one thing to have women in a game about the region, like say Ass Creed Odyssey which is one of my favorite games. That game however didnt treat her any differently than Dudebro MC. It wasnt making a statement at the expense of the story.

It would appear I heard wrong, as people sometimes do, and now I know better.

Play as a dude and you will be leading that army. Whats the problem?

Bro I already said I was wrong lol.

[Korhal]

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Originally posted by Hans von Hammer:

Play as a dude and you will be leading that army. Whats the problem?

Bro I already said I was wrong lol.

If so, you may take back the "strawman"-argument you put onto my statement above, as it kinda lets your statements either look twisted or at least counter-intuitive.
As others have said as well, there is no "ahistoricial diversity", which was your argument in the very first place without being based on anything but - as you stated basically - hearsay. The game is neither diverse on purpose, nor does it state any factual historic setting anywhere. Its just remotely hinged upon a certain time in history and you are more or less a fictional version of an alternative universe Calligula.

I still dont see, why, even if that reproach would have been the case, this might be a problem, yet in the end, its such a minor thing to argue about in general - be it me or you by this point - Id say we can both live with the outcome above.

There is nothing like that out there in comparission and if anyone is even remotely interested in a roman themed tactical squad game, than this one is the only option we have right now and for its price, its very worth getting into it, be it as a female or male lead or as a female or male player - or whatever someone might assume oneselfs gender.

[SolviteSekai]

Originally posted by Korhal:

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Bro I already said I was wrong lol.

If so, you may take back the "strawman"-argument you put onto my statement above, as it kinda lets your statements either look twisted or at least counter-intuitive.
As others have said as well, there is no "ahistoricial diversity", which was your argument in the very first place without being based on anything but - as you stated basically - hearsay. The game is neither diverse on purpose, nor does it state any factual historic setting anywhere. Its just remotely hinged upon a certain time in history and you are more or less a fictional version of an alternative universe Calligula.

I still dont see, why, even if that reproach would have been the case, this might be a problem, yet in the end, its such a minor thing to argue about in general - be it me or you by this point - Id say we can both live with the outcome above.

There is nothing like that out there in comparission and if anyone is even remotely interested in a roman themed tactical squad game, than this one is the only option we have right now and for its price, its very worth getting into it, be it as a female or male lead or as a female or male player - or whatever someone might assume oneselfs gender.

No, it's a strawman.

I know you really wanted me to be an andrew tate following critical drinker worshiping incel but sadly that's not the case.

FWIW i'll believe there's no pandering yass queen stuff when i actually finish the game because at this point "Some" of it is "normal".

[Korhal]

I think with everything being written down here and readbile for a broader audience, I suggest we leave those who ain't involved in or little "derailed conflict" to judge whatever someone might or might not be, besides whatever arguably intentions we may have or had behind our statements.

Enjoy the game - or not - its your time, so its your take as well.