Played the demo, loved it, bought already

[Gaius]

Hey there. For some reason Rome is somewhat less rresented in games nowadays, and the topic is so interesting, even more when mixing militar exploits and internal politics. I like what I see a lot, hopefully the whole game has the same quality found in the demo.

[Jo]

I did the same earlier today, albeit for a different reason. I played Vikings and I had a single gripe with the game: all heroes had the same skills besides the weapon they used.

In Rome, you can have 2 heroes in the same class and they will play quite differently depending on which tree you develop.

I enjoyed the little sample of legions mini-game too.

[Budoshi]

i haven't finish the demo yet but loving it so far , definitely on my buy list for sure.

[Snefru]

I played about 30 minutes of demo. Saw enough to grab it onsale. Thoroughly enjoyed Vikings.

Props for a demo. Wish more devs did that these days.

[Queco Jones21]

Props indeed for the demo. Especially such a lengthly one. Really let us get a feel for the game and make a good decision based on what we experianced.

[forumcrybaby]

Originally posted by Brigador:

Hey there. For some reason Rome is somewhat less rresented in games nowadays, and the topic is so interesting, even more when mixing militar exploits and internal politics. I like what I see a lot, hopefully the whole game has the same quality found in the demo.

Man when is Rome EVER represented in games lol? Rome: Total War and Ryse: Son of Rome.
I can't think of another game set in the period.

[Cutlass Jack]

Originally posted by beers:

Originally posted by Brigador:

Hey there. For some reason Rome is somewhat less rresented in games nowadays, and the topic is so interesting, even more when mixing militar exploits and internal politics. I like what I see a lot, hopefully the whole game has the same quality found in the demo.

Man when is Rome EVER represented in games lol? Rome: Total War and Ryse: Son of Rome.
I can't think of another game set in the period.

Assassin's Creed: Odyssey is the obvious one that comes to mind.

Age of Decadence and Tyranny are in rome-like settings but not actual rome. Can't think of any past that.

[Queco Jones21]

Originally posted by beers:

Originally posted by Brigador:

Hey there. For some reason Rome is somewhat less rresented in games nowadays, and the topic is so interesting, even more when mixing militar exploits and internal politics. I like what I see a lot, hopefully the whole game has the same quality found in the demo.

Man when is Rome EVER represented in games lol? Rome: Total War and Ryse: Son of Rome.
I can't think of another game set in the period.

Man when is Rome EVER represented in games lol? Rome: Total War and Ryse: Son of Rome.
I can't think of another game set in the period. [/quote]

It is represented with other games. Here on steam there are a few. But besides the ones you mentioned I myself have never played them jaja. They just didn't attract me or I thought that Total War just did it better... Or it was more focused on the management/politics of Rome and less on battles...

And Assassin's Creed; Odyssey is not about romans, its about the war between Athens and Sparta (the pelow/e war, i always butcher that name), which happened some time before the Romans came poking there heads about. Its all about the Greeks.

Honorable mention though is Overload 2, fun little gem of a game. But the 'romans' there are the enemies you fight against.

[Gaius]

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

Originally posted by beers:

Man when is Rome EVER represented in games lol? Rome: Total War and Ryse: Son of Rome.
I can't think of another game set in the period.

Assassin's Creed: Odyssey is the obvious one that comes to mind.

Age of Decadence and Tyranny are in rome-like settings but not actual rome. Can't think of any past that.

It has indirect role in a lot of games as an inspiration, including huge ones as Fallout: New Vegas's Cesar Legion , and the Empire of Man in the Warhammer universe. The fact is, for some reason western civilization is seen as boring by most devs, and by most of us as a society. I get it when it comes to greek culture, as amazing as it was, their aesthethic is a bit dull, but you can't be more hardass than romans, yet people seem to like half naked vikings usually.

[Molotova]

Originally posted by Snefru:

I played about 30 minutes of demo.

I played 13h of the demo. Once with each class, and trying to find a suitable difficulty level too. Even with a full game I am a serial reroller, good to get it out of the way with the demo.

I have a Sagittaria and Gladiatrix lined up. Hard difficulty. Will pick at launch...

(Incidentally Gladiatrices, although still extremely rare compared to male counterpart, seem to have been introduced just around the late republic / early empire days,.. exactly the setting for this game)

[Queco Jones21]

Well, Romans were very brutal in their treatment of other peoples... Guess a lot of devs don't want to get so deep into the whole deal with the rampart slavery and abuse? Most games that do involve the romans barely even touch on that aspect. The one show that I think that actually does a decent job of portraying this and the relationships between the masters and slaves was Spartacus (first season especially, so good!). A bit graphic to be sure, but great overall. Most games just stick to the roman legions.

Vikings did use slaves and were very brutal, but they didn't control such a vast empire as the Romans nor did they devastate as many cultures as they did... Plus they are more easily romanticized as explorers and traveling into the unknown. Plus they try to sell them as massive, near superhuman warriors with the crazy hair and beards. Not to mention their pantheon of gods/mythology is much cooler than the roman ones (even the greeks did a better job with their pantheon and mythology than the romans). Compared to those 2 the romans seem boring and brutal just for being brutal. Much easier to sell theh Vikings and Greeks (plus with stories and marathon and what 300 was based on, much easier to sell... Not to mention Hercules, Jason and the Argonaunts and all the other cool heroes).

For all that though, they did conquer a huge swathe of land in Europe, North Africa and Asia Minor/Middle East and held onto that land for centuries... Not even the Greeks in their prime or under Alexander could do that (as soon as he died, poof! Empire gone).

Just my thoughts.

[Plinto]

Originally posted by beers:

Originally posted by Brigador:

Hey there. For some reason Rome is somewhat less rresented in games nowadays, and the topic is so interesting, even more when mixing militar exploits and internal politics. I like what I see a lot, hopefully the whole game has the same quality found in the demo.

Man when is Rome EVER represented in games lol? Rome: Total War and Ryse: Son of Rome.
I can't think of another game set in the period.

imperator rome, field of glory, caesar series, shadow of rome, colosseum, praetorians, asterix, centurion, age of empires, grand ages, age of decadence (kinda), the forgotten city, spartan total warrior, rygar, glory of the roman empire, total war atila, imperium romanum, hegemony...its not a neglected setting, theres even more that have come out over the years that werent memorable, and more in decelopment right now like Roman Empire Wars

[Gaius]

Originally posted by Queco Jones21:

Well, Romans were very brutal in their treatment of other peoples...

Yeah, cause vikings and samurai were so nice. Oh, and Aztecs removing beating hearts :P
I just think people like tall blonde strong dudes, love how exotic aztecs are and samurai armor style is just amazing. That and western culture became uncool in the media in mid 80s and never fully recovered.

even the greeks did a better job with their pantheon and mythology than the romans

Well, the romans basically copied the greek pantheon and renamed them, it's basically the same. But nooneever called Mars uncool, its mostly how visual media depict them.

Compared to those 2 the romans seem boring and brutal just for being brutal

I don't think this is the issue. Boys love violence in stories, nothing sell like blood. I hink what makes the romans and greek less interesting is how organized and methodic they are, it's not METAL and chaotic like (archetypical) vikings or aztecs. Also, because they were very organized and basically created the first fully funcional and written legal system in the world, their violence was all but "for the sake of being brutal", they just used violence to rule over people.

or all that though, they did conquer a huge swathe of land in Europe, North Africa and Asia Minor/Middle East and held onto that land for centuries... Not even the Greeks in their prime or under Alexander could do that (as soon as he died, poof! Empire gone).

And yet, the Mongols were a larger empire. But it cumbled as soon as Gengis Khan died. Maybe because the Romans were so organized and methodical. Probably the very reason boys like games with other warrior cultures better :)

At least it's how I perceive it. For what I can tell from books, comics, etc, in my old uncle's house, during the 60s and 70s rome was really more in vogue.

[McSilberwolf]

Played the demo, loved it, bought already.........
Nothing more to say.

Rome is somewhat less resented in games nowadays.....
Like..... conquistador?

Expeditions: ....
everytime great game

[Queco Jones21]

Dang it Brigador... thats too much to quote and respond! lol, would make my post too long.

In short, I mostly agree with you. Romans where much to organized and methodical and in reality make great villains, probably because its so easy to portray them as the invader and destroyer of cultures (which was essentially what they were).

They did copy the pantheon from the greeks, and then made it BORING. They didn't even create good or entertaining mythologies about their versions. at least none that I know of. If there are, anybody can correct me here. So game devs cannot even create a more fantasy type roman game in which we play as the protagonists. They do seem to be portrayed a lot as destroyers/killers of fantasy cultures and monsters in a number of media though.

And yeah, the Mongol Empire suffered the same issue as Alexander. Although it did somewhat survive under one of his sons and 1 grandson, Kubila (butchered the name i know) khan or something was one. But after that it started to fracture apart. Don't believe Genghis himself actually even got to invade Asia Minor/Europe, he died during the conquest of China I believe, of old age was it? Took them around 70 years or so if I am not mistaken (again, anyone feel free to correct me). But the fact remains that what he started didn't last for long compared to what the Romans accomplished.