Expeditions: Rome

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Karma Drak Jan 19, 2022 @ 12:10pm
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Latin spoken words
I get it you want to have localized names of people anda places while, obviously using english... but WHY have the characters say the names so wrong? You could even use google translate to listen how certain words SHOULD be spoken. V's are not U's unless surrounded by consonants like in Vittelius, G's are read as J's when followed by E's and I's and so do C's are read as S's in this case. Do your homework or just use google.

Immersion 1/10
Originally posted by Jonas:
Hi. The game uses reconstructed Classical Latin based on a pronunciation guide made for us by an Italian professor of Latin. We are not using Ecclesiastical Latin, since that is not what the Romans spoke.
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Lamiosa Jan 19, 2022 @ 12:26pm 
Till the 5th century C was spoken as K.
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Jonas  [developer] Jan 19, 2022 @ 12:28pm 
Hi. The game uses reconstructed Classical Latin based on a pronunciation guide made for us by an Italian professor of Latin. We are not using Ecclesiastical Latin, since that is not what the Romans spoke.
upuaut2 Jan 19, 2022 @ 12:31pm 
in spanish for instance C is spoken as K. Casa (house) you pronounce as K in english.
btw in latin and spanish. the word house is written and pronouced the same. Casa

or domum
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Karma Drak Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by Jonas:
Hi. The game uses reconstructed Classical Latin based on a pronunciation guide made for us by an Italian professor of Latin. We are not using Ecclesiastical Latin, since that is not what the Romans spoke.

Well then, you paid for a linguistic theory that is not supported by most scholars of ancient latin. Modern linguistics decided to create this schism in a laughable way to divert from the church power. Linguists are dynamic and follow rules you can only find by evaluting and examining ethimology of the modern words in every language that derives from the ancient one. Reading LuKillius is completely denying this study, ALL derivations are read Lucillius like in spanish, portuguese, italian and even french and english: Lúcio, Luccio, Lucius, Lucille, Lucy. This is just a small example.

Anyways, I'm not the one being paid for this and you are the one making decisions. For me it's immerssion killer and I cringe everytime I hear them kicking linguistics.
Have a great launch tomorrow and best success (won't be playing it, but I'm just one so no loss there).

Ps. As for the C bein read as a K mentioned by another comment it is again just a scholar theory that has little to no basis on ethimology (would explain better but I'm not an english native speaker, just a linguist that knows way too many languages).
Brahson Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:04pm 
damn this video game for not getting the pronunciation of this dead language 100% correct
Lamiosa Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Brahson:
damn this video game for not getting the pronunciation of this dead language 100% correct

Yes, my immersion is completly destroyed. Time to give up my passion for computer games and enlist into a catholic monastery to only hear correct latin for the rest of my life.
Karma Drak Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by Brahson:
damn this video game for not getting the pronunciation of this dead language 100% correct

IKR :wftogrin:
FieserMoep Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:09pm 
Next thing the bring up is that the roman gear portrayed comes from different eras and thus this game can not be enjoyed.
Karma Drak Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:11pm 
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Originally posted by Lamiosa:
Originally posted by Brahson:
damn this video game for not getting the pronunciation of this dead language 100% correct

Yes, my immersion is completly destroyed. Time to give up my passion for computer games and enlist into a catholic monastery to only hear correct latin for the rest of my life.

You do that, maybe they can teach you some interesting stuff so you are not only passionate for games, but also for culture, history and groundbreaking space rocketry. :wftohappy:
Karma Drak Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by FieserMoep:
Next thing the bring up is that the roman gear portrayed comes from different eras and thus this game can not be enjoyed.

If THAT's your thing, why not bring it up?
Since when can you not bring up whatever you want and are passionate about?

From the comments I've been getting it seems that you live a bit too much behind a screen :wftohappy:
FieserMoep Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by Karma Drak:
If THAT's your thing, why not bring it up?

Because you want something from a game which is had never aimed for int he first place.
You are setting yourself up for dissapointment with expectations that are out of the blue.
Its like screaming at all, wanting it to be a door. It looks weird to everyone else.
Karma Drak Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:19pm 
Can you live with your disappointment? I can.
If it looks weird to everyone else it's really each and everyone's problem, not really mine.

I brought up what I felt was 'wrong' to me in the game. Got my answer and made my decision. Glad the dev had a great answer and I'll live with it gladly... it's everyone else that seem to have problems with weirdos and decide to be weird themselves in return.
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Lamiosa Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by Karma Drak:
Can you live with your disappointment? I can.
If it looks weird to everyone else it's really each and everyone's problem, not really mine.

I brought up what I felt was 'wrong' to me in the game. Got my answer and made my decision. Glad the dev had a great answer and I'll live with it gladly... it's everyone else that seem to have problems with weirdos and decide to be weird themselves in return.

It is weird to me, but I do not wonder at all. After all the "Women break my immersion", why not someone comes up with "Wrong latin breaks my immersion". To me both are same weird.
FieserMoep Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:21pm 
It may be due us browsing the forums and encountering people that are quite arrogant for no good reason.

Originally posted by Karma Drak:
Do your homework or just use google.

You may play the UNO reverse crad again and say "no you" but I think this is done for me.
Jonas  [developer] Jan 19, 2022 @ 1:25pm 
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Hey guys please keep it civil. OP had a specific thing that bothered him about the game and that's fine. Things started reasonably polite. Don't let this devolve into a bout of mud-slinging please :)
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