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Gameplay questions after trying out the demo
Played the demo, thinking about purchasing full version and have some questions.

1) I read that leveling up daemons requires a lot of effort, so it's better for players to use only a couple of them throughout the game, and not all ~10 (however many there is). Does maxing out those few daemons require grinding, or is that the maximum amount of daemons possible to level up without any grinding, just by clearing out visited locations once?
2) Is there respec? Do all daemons get introduced closer to the start of the game, or would i have to save up skillpoints in case i meet a daemon i might like more than those i'm using hours and later?
3) Is there more to "the underworld", than just a cool color-swap of the living world? I like the idea itself, but running through the exact same map again - not so much.
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Raven Aug 31, 2019 @ 9:37am 
1) There are 11 daemons. You should be able to max out 2-5 daemons during the course of the story, depending on who you use and what difficulty you are on (higher difficulties have more enemies. I recommend playing on Maniac because it's not too hard and you get plenty of stuff to kill). And in the end it's not the number you kill itself that matters, but how much you do. Every basic attack and skill that hits counts as a single point towards earning the next soulstone, with you earning one stone roughly every 60-70 points. Hitting multiple targets does not speed things up though. You need a lot of stones to max out a daemon. The postgame dungeon is long enough and so packed with enemies that you can max out all your daemons there if you want to (I got to around floor 70 when I farmed everyone to max rank)
2) No respec, and soulstones you earn from fighting are exclusive to that daemon only. You do earn nullstones for killing Sightstealers (small area bosses) for the first time, for saving Lost souls, and occasionally from Shadow Fallen (which are rare if you don't farm for them). I recommend saving nullstones for the final daemon, because she's really hard to get soulstones for through the normal way. Or you can use them to boost new hires to get at least a 2nd skill to use (making them a lot better to play)
3) on the human side you can encounter Shadow Fallen, which you can get great loot from. Also you are not affected by veil blindness. Beyond the veil you can actually fight the Shadow Fallen (the game explains why and how once you find one), and you can gain the benefits from having removed the blindness (this is area specific, and not always something you like. For example, in one area EVERYONE gets healed every 10 seconds for a good chunk, and in another hitting blocking enemies makes you take damage instead). And most importantly: by swapping sides you get to fight roughly twice as many enemies.
Akatosh Aug 31, 2019 @ 9:40am 
Hello

1) Leveling deamon doesn't require that much effort, no. The important is to find wich ones you love; I suggest you to go back to early area where there are lot of ennemies to collect soul stones and unlock the 4 memory, to be able to see every perks ans see if it could be good for you or not.
Instead of keeping the 4 firs Daemon, I don't think it possible to max a team without going back to grind a few.

2) No respect, once a skill is bought, it is forever. You don't have to spare skill point because each demon has is own : Aisha need Sword stones, Zaav needs Spear stones, etc. But you can keep the universal stones to level up a Daemon you don't play that much.

3) As you said, the Veil world is the same as the living world, with a color swap. But you need to exploreit because the treasure chest are only in the veil world. At some point, you wont be able to progress, a destroyed bridge for exemple, but if you go in veil world, there will be a "teleporter"; and finally when you are in the veil world, there is a passive bonus that can greatly help you depending of your Deamons/game style.

I strongly recommend you to keep Aisha, she is amaizing, you can almost do the entire game just with her (reinforced by the party shared perks of others Daemons); for info I killed the final Boss with her in less than 30 sec, in normal mode, wihout skills, just with regular sword attacks (in manisfested mode - or whaterever the "super-sayajin mode" is called in english).

I hope it helped you.
Thank you both for the answers!

2) Huh, i must've skipped the part where it was explained that each daemon gets its own upgrade points. Was sure they're shared.
3) Yeah, probably should've mentioned in the post that i know about blindness, portals, chests and the rest. But i consider those rather small differences, 90% of the levels match and so do enemies. I expected there to be larger layout variety or more unique enemies. Kinda sucks.

Originally posted by Akatosh:
Hello
I strongly recommend you to keep Aisha, she is amaizing, you can almost do the entire game just with her (reinforced by the party shared perks of others Daemons);
I liked Aisha but frankly find it weird that dash isn't protagonist's own skill..

Oh, probably should ask this too: are there multiple sidequest outcomes and/or endings? Or is it completely linear?
Akatosh Aug 31, 2019 @ 11:56am 
There are no real sidequest, but sometimes you will meet lost souls/ghosts that will ask you a favor (bring them sowhere, most of the time), that's the only side activity of the game.

You can also consider that restoring all Daemons memories is a side quest.

There are 3 endings.
No spoil info : at the very end, a NPC will ask you a question with 2 possibles answers. One answer will immediatly end the game and give you the 1st ending.
If you choose the other, you will have to fight something, then you will have 2 choices that will bring you to the 2nd or the 3rd ending.
Last edited by Akatosh; Aug 31, 2019 @ 11:58am
I see. Thanks!
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