Shadows of Doubt

Shadows of Doubt

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Sammyrism May 11, 2023 @ 8:35am
Bullet wound, but murder weapon is a sword
I just had a murder case where the victim had a bullet wound from 8mm or 9x32. I found the perpetrator and arrested her after searching her apartment for a weapon. There was none, and at her work there was nothing either. All she had was a sword on her, so I put it as the murder weapon for the sake of it.

Turns out that was the murder weapon!? When I turned in the case I got a checkmark, so it was correct, but why would the victim then have a bullet wound? There were no guns around at all.
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UnknownFox May 11, 2023 @ 8:54am 
I've got a similar issue. Murder was caused by a slashing weapon, but the entry point for the wound is blunt.
EliteForceQc May 11, 2023 @ 8:56am 
Yeah i got those kind of cases, where the info we got when inspecting the corpse dont fit the evidence around. And evrytime i use my guts feeling im right about the murder weapon.
Cooperal May 11, 2023 @ 9:06am 
I'm still trying to do the detective work but I imagine a lot of the confusion comes from the fact that murder events are simulated rather than simply spawned.
Even when you aren't in render distance to simulate them live, I imagine the game is using its ability to simulate past events on the fly, just as it does when surveillance footage has to simulate new images of past events for example.

Even if you might not be able to locate a gun, it might not be impossible that a gun was used somewhere in the murder attempt.

Could still be that the killer did have a gun at some point but did not use it for the last hit. Could be that a third party shot the victim while trying to shoot the killer.

OR it could be the most disappointingly simple answer. The game just generated the wrong information.

Even if a gun has not been found, it may be worth checking all possibilities. Have you for example located the weapons dealers sales logs to check if the killer did buy any guns recently?
Macawesome75 May 11, 2023 @ 9:54am 
Also, sometimes the victim got shot for other reasons, like activating a security alarm
MSJ-06II-C May 11, 2023 @ 9:54am 
I do think they can change weapons, on my first save, I've had this happen where one victim was murdered with a slash but the third (couldn't get to investigate the second) was shot
Settings May 11, 2023 @ 10:21am 
I had one earlier where the print on the murder weapon didn't match the murderer, it matched her wife instead. No idea why.
Klax May 11, 2023 @ 10:32am 
I've seen the stab and shoot a couple times, i just assumed the killer used two weapons and only one of them actually counts as the "kill" weapon.
Sammyrism May 11, 2023 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Cooperal:
I'm still trying to do the detective work but I imagine a lot of the confusion comes from the fact that murder events are simulated rather than simply spawned.
Even when you aren't in render distance to simulate them live, I imagine the game is using its ability to simulate past events on the fly, just as it does when surveillance footage has to simulate new images of past events for example.

Even if you might not be able to locate a gun, it might not be impossible that a gun was used somewhere in the murder attempt.

Could still be that the killer did have a gun at some point but did not use it for the last hit. Could be that a third party shot the victim while trying to shoot the killer.

OR it could be the most disappointingly simple answer. The game just generated the wrong information.

Even if a gun has not been found, it may be worth checking all possibilities. Have you for example located the weapons dealers sales logs to check if the killer did buy any guns recently?

Thanks for the reply! I did indeed check both weapons dealer and black market, but their name (or their spouse's) was not present.
Acerbic May 11, 2023 @ 4:47pm 
Ignore the entry wound, only the weapon that kills them matters.
Flutterlove May 11, 2023 @ 5:23pm 
It's happened a few times for me, most likely an error in the procedural generation system that should be ironed out in a future patch.
Monotones May 14, 2023 @ 3:14pm 
This isn't really an error, kinda fits in my opinion, just because someone gets shot doesn't mean they'll die from it, think leg or arm, if they manage to stop bleeding or whatever other stuff goes on, the murderer then stabs them with the other weapon, don't know why they'd switch but whatcha gunna do?
Sammyrism May 15, 2023 @ 3:44am 
Originally posted by Monotones:
This isn't really an error, kinda fits in my opinion, just because someone gets shot doesn't mean they'll die from it, think leg or arm, if they manage to stop bleeding or whatever other stuff goes on, the murderer then stabs them with the other weapon, don't know why they'd switch but whatcha gunna do?

Think of it this way: If the murder weapon was a sword, wouldn't there ALSO be a stab or slash wound?
Mr.Killer May 15, 2023 @ 10:30am 
I once encountered a case where the victim died from a knife wound. At the crime scene, there were two knives: one with the fingerprints of the cohabitant and the other with the fingerprints of two strangers. One of the strangers' fingerprints was found all over the crime scene. I initially investigated this stranger and eventually discovered that the murderer was the cohabitant of the stranger.
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Date Posted: May 11, 2023 @ 8:35am
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